2025 Pre-season discussion. The Madge dynasty begins.

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Nek Minut: same round 1 as last year.

Who could have seen that coming?
 
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It's probably the best time to get rorters... No Sam Walker, No Brandon Smith, No Sandon Smith... their first game with a new structure without JWH, Suaalii, Manu, Keary, etc.

They'll be coming into the game with a team that looks completely different to 2024.
 
Even in round 1, when we'll all be keen for footy to return, that Friday 6PM is a brutal game for the first Friday night of the season.
 
Well let's hope ours plays completely different to how we looked in 2024.
We might have some teething issues with the team having to adapt to Madge's style... in defence and attack.

The biggest key for us will be defence... it's likely to be a complete overhaul from what they're used to and what's be engrained in them for so long.

I think of titans in the 2024 season... Hasler came in as a fully defensive coach and had to completely overhaul a titans team who were conceding 27 points per game in 2023.

Titans started the year horribly in defence and people were questioning the Dessie appointment with the titans conceding 31.25 pts per game through to Round 5 without registering a win, but their attack was looking far worse.

Then Dessie went full modern meta mode against raiders in Canberra and had his players falling asleep in the ruck, being offside all the time, etc. basically just break as many rules as you need to, but don't let your defensive line be broken.

Titans lost the game 21-20, but also lost the penalties and six agains 13-4... most notable out of that game was Ricky Stuart in the presser saying that titans could've been penalised 30 odd times and if that's what the NRL wants to see in defence then he will tell his players to start doing the same.

I think it kind of flipped a switch in the titans players though and showed them the success that can come if you just follow the storm, panthers and rorters way of defending by just ignoring that rules exist. For the remaining 20 games they conceded 26.5 pt per game and won 8 games, so not a huge improvement on the previous year, but they had a ton of injuries and now Dessie has a base to start from.

Broncos are coming into 2025 with no base to work from, because they've never played the modern meta (Wayne refusing wrestling all those years earlier)... so it will all come down to how quickly Madge can get the modern defensive methodology across to the playing group.

Early on we might be needing to win via high attacking shootouts rather than grafting out low scoring slug fests... until we have our Canberra moment... so the more underdone teams we get to play early on the better it will be for us.

That's not usually what happens with a broncos 'draw' though... expect to see storm (away), penrith, cows (home), souths, etc. in the early schedule... so the playing group will need to be learning from within the deep end.
 
We might have some teething issues with the team having to adapt to Madge's style... in defence and attack.

The biggest key for us will be defence... it's likely to be a complete overhaul from what they're used to and what's be engrained in them for so long.

I think of titans in the 2024 season... Hasler came in as a fully defensive coach and had to completely overhaul a titans team who were conceding 27 points per game in 2023.

Titans started the year horribly in defence and people were questioning the Dessie appointment with the titans conceding 31.25 pts per game through to Round 5 without registering a win, but their attack was looking far worse.

Then Dessie went full modern meta mode against raiders in Canberra and had his players falling asleep in the ruck, being offside all the time, etc. basically just break as many rules as you need to, but don't let your defensive line be broken.

Titans lost the game 21-20, but also lost the penalties and six agains 13-4... most notable out of that game was Ricky Stuart in the presser saying that titans could've been penalised 30 odd times and if that's what the NRL wants to see in defence then he will tell his players to start doing the same.

I think it kind of flipped a switch in the titans players though and showed them the success that can come if you just follow the storm, panthers and rorters way of defending by just ignoring that rules exist. For the remaining 20 games they conceded 26.5 pt per game and won 8 games, so not a huge improvement on the previous year, but they had a ton of injuries and now Dessie has a base to start from.

Broncos are coming into 2025 with no base to work from, because they've never played the modern meta (Wayne refusing wrestling all those years earlier)... so it will all come down to how quickly Madge can get the modern defensive methodology across to the playing group.

Early on we might be needing to win via high attacking shootouts rather than grafting out low scoring slug fests... until we have our Canberra moment... so the more underdone teams we get to play early on the better it will be for us.

That's not usually what happens with a broncos 'draw' though... expect to see storm (away), penrith, cows (home), souths, etc. in the early schedule... so the playing group will need to be learning from within the deep end.

Fortunately though we aren’t coming from as back as the Titans and have more superstars in the team.
 
Just fucking give us the Cowboys at Suncorp on a Friday night for the opening game. Guaranteed sell out.

We aren’t a Sydney team that needs to play their rivalry games further in the season to boost interest for the games. We get good crowds and good ratings no matter what so just give us that Round 1 opening game against Cowboys we used to get back.
 
Just fucking give us the Cowboys at Suncorp on a Friday night for the opening game. Guaranteed sell out.

We aren’t a Sydney team that needs to play their rivalry games further in the season to boost interest for the games. We get good crowds and good ratings no matter what so just give us that Round 1 opening game against Cowboys we used to get back.
Cows at Suncorp is a guaranteed sell out whenever it's played... Channel 9 don't want to waste that for round 1... hell they barely give us a home game in round 1 recently, because they know a round 2 home game will be a sell out anyway.

Our usual opening to the season includes... Round 1 away game to a Sydney team, Round 2 home against whoever and then Cows at Suncorp sometime within the first 5 games.

We've had 2 round 1 home games since 2016... Rabbits in 2022 i.e. Reynolds vs Souths (and Reynolds wasn't even there) and 2021 vs Parra (still playing on the 58-0 finals exit from 2019).

Way back when our home opener was cows on a Sunday, but Channel 9 have gone away from that, because Cows game will sell out whenever.
 
Cows at Suncorp is a guaranteed sell out whenever it's played... Channel 9 don't want to waste that for round 1... hell they barely give us a home game in round 1 recently, because they know a round 2 home game will be a sell out anyway.

Our usual opening to the season includes... Round 1 away game to a Sydney team, Round 2 home against whoever and then Cows at Suncorp sometime within the first 5 games.

We've had 2 round 1 home games since 2016... Rabbits in 2022 i.e. Reynolds vs Souths (and Reynolds wasn't even there) and 2021 vs Parra (still playing on the 58-0 finals exit from 2019).

Way back when our home opener was cows on a Sunday, but Channel 9 have gone away from that, because Cows game will sell out whenever.
At least we aren’t the Wayne v old club team at the moment
 
At least we aren’t the Wayne v old club team at the moment
Can definitely see us getting Souths within the first 4 rounds... not enough animosity between Wayne and Dolphins for media to build off so it's definitely going to be on the broncos yet again.

I wonder if we will get parra twice this year... there's barely been a year go by where we don't have to play them twice, but they were shit last year and in rebuilding mode, so they might dump that until they're good again... thinking they will give us dogs twice instead.

My guesses on the teams we'll play twice this year.

- Cows, Titans, Dolphins (Qld teams so we have to)
- Souths (Wayne)
- Storm (for some reason considered a rivalry because we beat them in 2006).... they have better rivalries against manly (their main rival), sharks, wahs and penrith... probably also against parra and rorters
- Penrith (media will try to manufacture a rivalry here)
- rorters (Top 4 team so we'll have to play them)
- Dogs (basically replacing parra as successful big Sydney team so play them against broncos)

Would mean we miss out on Wahs (at home because they will send us to NZ), tigers, sharks, dargs, parra, raiders, knights, manly (at home because media pushing the broncos back to brookie narrative)
 
One things for sure,

I’d put big money on us only getting the Tigers once yet again. Almost a given.

I’d also put big money on us playing a team in the origin affected round that has one or less state of origin representatives.
Yep... almost certain at this point that we only get tigers once... I don't think we've played tigers twice in a season since 2013... #RandomDraw and all that though.

Last time we played them twice Teddy was still there!!

Maybe with Madge we should be getting a Madge versus his old team just like they do with Wayne!! (although they will just ignore that and double down on Souths... probably stuff up and have us playing souths 4 times this year)
 

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