Q-CUP 2026 Queensland Cup Discussion

Sproj said:
So he's 21? Surely he is at an age where he should be hitting NRL?
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I don't think you can look at it that way.

Turner came to the Broncos through the Bears system. He impressed in the NRLQ and earned himself an opportunity to train at the Broncos. He's only just cracked the Queensland Cup now. Realistically you wouldn't be expecting much if anything until he's 23.

That's different to me than Waqa and Shibasaki who have been involved in an NRL system for years and still finding their way.
 
Big Pete said:
I don't think you can look at it that way.

Turner came to the Broncos through the Bears system. He impressed in the NRLQ and earned himself an opportunity to train at the Broncos. He's only just cracked the Queensland Cup now. Realistically you wouldn't be expecting much if anything until he's 23.

That's different to me than Waqa and Shibasaki who have been involved in an NRL system for years and still finding their way.
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Surely though some of these kids coming through need to start showing decent progression, otherwise what's the point of a pathways system if it isn't producing ready to go kids? What is it that North Queensland Redcliffe are doing WAY better than us so that they have a pipeline in place?

I know people often mention Redcliffe having the pathway from junior to senior but NQ doesn't have this. The Titans also seem to be pumping out kids into the NRL system. They had all 13 starters come through their system for example last week or whatever and they also have the same contraints as us. What is it we are seemingly doing so wrong compared to the four other Qld teams (Storm included)?
 
Sproj said:
Surely though some of these kids coming through need to start showing decent progression, otherwise what's the point of a pathways system if it isn't producing ready to go kids? What is it that North Queensland Redcliffe are doing WAY better than us so that they have a pipeline in place?

I know people often mention Redcliffe having the pathway from junior to senior but NQ doesn't have this. The Titans also seem to be pumping out kids into the NRL system. They had all 13 starters come through their system for example last week or whatever and they also have the same contraints as us. What is it we are seemingly doing so wrong compared to the four other Qld teams (Storm included)?
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You love doing lists, so have a look at our full strength team. You'd be able to count on one hand the number of players that didn't come through our pathways system
 
Sproj said:
Surely though some of these kids coming through need to start showing decent progression, otherwise what's the point of a pathways system if it isn't producing ready to go kids? What is it that North Queensland Redcliffe are doing WAY better than us so that they have a pipeline in place?

I know people often mention Redcliffe having the pathway from junior to senior but NQ doesn't have this. The Titans also seem to be pumping out kids into the NRL system. They had all 13 starters come through their system for example last week or whatever and they also have the same contraints as us. What is it we are seemingly doing so wrong compared to the four other Qld teams (Storm included)?
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This is bit of an overreaction over a colt player making their debut, don't you think?
 
Foordy said:
You love doing lists, so have a look at our full strength team. You'd be able to count on one hand the number of players that didn't come through our pathways system
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Ok:

2. Karapani
7. Reynolds
9. Walters
8. Jensen
16. Talty
17. Tawha
18. Anderson

Wider squad:
Hoeter
Perham
Rogers
Arthars
Bradley
Duffy
Gosiewski
Junt
Piki

So over 50% of our squad.
 
Sproj said:
Ok:

2. Karapani
7. Reynolds
9. Walters
8. Jensen
16. Talty
17. Tawha
18. Anderson

Wider squad:
Hoeter
Perham
Rogers
Arthars
Bradley
Duffy
Gosiewski
Junt
Piki

So over 50% of our squad.
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We'll you're comparing apples and oranges since you only talked about the starting 13 from the Cowboys.

Also at full strength Tawha wouldn't be in the game day 19 (Anderson may not be either, although he could possibly take Shibasaki's sport or be the outside back on the extended bench)

BHQ seems to have a few members that would fit in well with the rugby league media 😉
 
Foordy said:
We'll you're comparing apples and oranges since you only talked about the starting 13 from the Cowboys.

Also at full strength Tawha wouldn't be in the game day 19 (Anderson may not be either, although he could possibly take Shibasaki's sport or be the outside back on the extended bench)

BHQ seems to have a few members that would fit in well with the rugby league media 😉
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Well I used the game day team list from the Titans as one example of a wider issue, not sure how that is what you got out of the post, particular given you took it as being about the Cowboys.

Are you happy with our pathways system over the last 20 years?

And yes, you will likely retort with 2025 and it was an amazing year but a year with very few injuries, like 2023.

But that aside, we are the biggest club in the rugby league world, to win only one championship in 20 years is not good, in fact its abysmal.

And when we do produce some good products, they almost seem to immediately get poached. How did we lose ALL of:
- Fifita
- Flegler
- Dearden
- Walsh (yes he came back but we didn't know he would at the time)
- Xoates
- Su'A
- Farnworth
- Collins
- Gray
- Cobbo
- Black

And now compound that with Haas.

Mind you, Mariner, Willison, Riki, Mozer and Piakura are all about to come off contract as well.
 
Big Pete said:
Why? Do I want to count all the contradictions?
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Sure, I contradict myself, I'm pretty sure everyone does but on this point, I have been very consistent.

Look if you don't want to engage in conversation about this point, just don't. Pretty simple. No need to take unnecessary pot shots, you of all posters are better than this.
 
Sproj said:
Sure, I contradict myself, I'm pretty sure everyone does but on this point, I have been very consistent.

Look if you don't want to engage in conversation about this point, just don't. Pretty simple. No need to take unnecessary pot shots, you of all posters are better than this.
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The conversation is about Brady Turner. His performance on debut doesn't warrant another rant about the Broncos recruitment.

I'm trying to steer the conversation on track. Turner's career progression has absolutely nothing to do with your post history.
 
Big Pete said:
The conversation is about Brady Turner. His performance on debut doesn't warrant another rant about the Broncos recruitment.

I'm trying to steer the conversation on track. Turner's career progression has absolutely nothing to do with your post history.
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I didn't see Turner, but I guess he falls closer into that discussion about dedicated reserve grade teams and Sydney clubs and their reserve grade setups.

It sounds like he was off the radar, but he might be a late bloomer?

What will broncos options be moving forward?

I'm assuming the hope would keeping him on a T&T, but he's in Burleigh so what happens if titans or dophins come knocking and throw a top 30 or dev deal at him because they have a spare spot.
 
BroncsFan said:
I didn't see Turner, but I guess he falls closer into that discussion about dedicated reserve grade teams and Sydney clubs and their reserve grade setups.

It sounds like he was off the radar, but he might be a late bloomer?

What will broncos options be moving forward?

I'm assuming the hope would keeping him on a T&T, but he's in Burleigh so what happens if titans or dophins come knocking and throw a top 30 or dev deal at him because they have a spare spot.
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So if we take the NSW Cup, when a club has a player in reggies they want to invest long term in, what they'll often do is give them a three year contract where the final year is a dev deal. If they're happy to sign that, the player signals their commitment and what usually happens is that they'll work towards an upgrade.

Turner's current deal is similar to a NSW Cup deal. If the Broncos had their own club, he'd be a Bronco, not a Magpie. I'm not sure if Turner has committed beyond this year but if he attracted interest, the Broncos would have to come up with a similar deal otherwise he'd take the NRL deal.

I don't think Brisbane will have anything to worry about. He's played 20 minutes of Queensland Cup, he's a pup.
 
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