Australia v Sri Lanka

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Patterson was excellent but the same questions still remain, why can't he score 100 for NSW? Until he is peeling off 5 a year for the Blues why would he be able to do it for Australia?

He has scored two Shield 100's in the last two years, one against the Bulls in 16/17 and this summer. I was at that Bulls one and it was great under lights with Smith getting 100 too.

Those two are a third of his 100 since 2011.

But to me it's just more of the same, thinking we can take a guy and make him better at a higher level.
Once again you are shifting the goal posts. If he was trying to crack the team of the late 90s-early 00s, your point is totally valid.

However this is a completely different era and there are no truly explainable ways where you can say he doesn’t deserve a chance over any of Finch, Head or Lableak.
 

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Once again you are shifting the goal posts. If he was trying to crack the team of the late 90s-early 00s, your point is totally valid.

However this is a completely different era and there are no truly explainable ways where you can say he doesn’t deserve a chance over any of Finch, Head or Lableak.
How am I moving the posts? I constantly bang on about 1000 run years and averaging 60 for your State.

I talk about it ad nauseam how people think poor Shield form will just correct itself against world class attacks and how very rarely it has happened.

Moving standards down is not the answer. Ignoring flaws in games isn't the answer.

But if you wanted to raise a case the gap in the last 12 months certainly isn't what you're thinking.

Patterson 1100 runs at 40.74
Labuschagne 1087 at 36.17
Head 907 at 43

Labuschagne has two 100's in that 12 months- as opposed to one.

It's pretty even.
 

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How am I moving the posts? I constantly bang on about 1000 run years and averaging 60 for your State.

I talk about it ad nauseam how people think poor Shield form will just correct itself against world class attacks and how very rarely it has happened.

Moving standards down is not the answer. Ignoring flaws in games isn't the answer.

But if you wanted to raise a case the gap in the last 12 months certainly isn't what you're thinking.

Patterson 1100 runs at 40.74
Labuschagne 1087 at 36.17
Head 907 at 43

Labuschagne has two 100's in that 12 months- as opposed to one.

It's pretty even.
Ok, so Head you could argue for given he has been around a long time and did seem to be getting better in the last few seasons before this one but Labarbeque has absolutely no right to be there.

4 more runs on average is nothing to sneeze at, especially when it combines with their overall records where Patterson is almost 10 runs ahead.

Plus, Patterson makes starts almost every innings then loses concentration, this is more fixable than a guy that makes a small ton or nothing.

Don’t get me started on Finch the opener. I haven’t even bought M.Marsh into either.
 

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Sucks for Burns. Looks like he will be left out now. Given he has been the best performing Shield batsmen for the last 2 seasons he should be a lock. But with the inclusion of Patterson he’ll probably be left out.
 

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starting with the Sri Lanka series, i would probably go with a line up like:

1. Harris
2. Burns
3. Khawaja
4. Patterson
5.
6.
7. Paine
8. Cummins
9. Stark
10. Lyon
11. Hazlewood

not sure who out of Head, Labuschagne or Will Pucovski to fill the final 2 batting positions.

but one things is for sure, the selectors need to pick and stick to give these guys a chance to gel at this level (and in some cases learn what test cricket is all about). and that includes batting order.

they can't keep chopping and changing every test, I mean bringing back Handscomb for one test was complete BS. he clearly hadn't even had a chance to work on the area's the wanted him to work on.

the selectors seem to be treading water until the ball tampering bans (especially Smith's) have ended.
 

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I actually wouldn't mind this batting lineup -

1. Harris
2. Renshaw
3. Khawaja
4. Patterson
5. Head
6. Burns

Leaving Labuchagne & Pucovski out for the time being, I think they're the least likely to cement a spot before Warner & Smith return.

5 left handers in a row is unheard of though, so you can almost guarantee that won't be what we go with.
 
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starting with the Sri Lanka series, i would probably go with a line up like:

1. Harris
2. Burns
3. Khawaja
4. Patterson
5.
6.
7. Paine
8. Cummins
9. Stark
10. Lyon
11. Hazlewood

not sure who out of Head, Labuschagne or Will Pucovski to fill the final 2 batting positions.

but one things is for sure, the selectors need to pick and stick to give these guys a chance to gel at this level (and in some cases learn what test cricket is all about). and that includes batting order.

they can't keep chopping and changing every test, I mean bringing back Handscomb for one test was complete BS. he clearly hadn't even had a chance to work on the area's the wanted him to work on.

the selectors seem to be treading water until the ball tampering bans (especially Smith's) have ended.
Hazlewood is ruled out for the series.
 
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Sucks for Burns. Looks like he will be left out now. Given he has been the best performing Shield batsmen for the last 2 seasons he should be a lock. But with the inclusion of Patterson he’ll probably be left out.
It does suck for Burns as everyone will score runs in this series and will probably book their flight for England. Probably not the greatest tune up for the Ashes playing the Lankans at home but that is just the way the schedule reads. The Aussies will get clobbered in Eng regardless of who is selected.
 

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I'd certainly be going:

1. Harris
2. Burns
3. Khawaja
4. Patterson
5. Head
6. Pucovski
7. Paine (c) (wk)
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Richardson
11. Lyon

But I think Labookstore is the new M.Marsh and wil keep being gifted chance after chance after chance.

So will probably be:

1. Harris
2. Khawaja
3. Labarnacle
4. Patterson
5. Head
6. Pucovski
7. Paine
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Lyon
11. Siddle
 

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It does suck for Burns as everyone will score runs in this series and will probably book their flight for England. Probably not the greatest tune up for the Ashes playing the Lankans at home but that is just the way the schedule reads. The Aussies will get clobbered in Eng regardless of who is selected.
Sri Lanka have some very good players.

Karunaratne- was one of the best performing openers all year- 158 v SA and averaged 46 in a year where the average for openers was poor- passed 50 in eight of his 17 innings. 743 runs.

Mendis- 176 v Australia last time. Second highest run scorer last year in Test cricket. Three 100's including 141 v NZ in NZ.

Perera- second for wickets taken 50 at 29. Last time we played Sri Lanka they won 3-0 and he took 15 wickets in three Tests.

Kumara- is fast and gets up to 140, he could cause problems if he can sort himself out.
 

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1. Harris
2. Burns
3. Khawaja
4. Labuschagne
5. Head
6. Patterson
7. Paine (c)
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Richardson
11. Lyon

Fair enough, can't disagree too much with that XI, probably would've preferred Renshaw opening and Burns in the middle order in place of Marnus, but I'll hold off judgement until I see how they go.
 

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Shame Pucovski isn't getting a gig but there are a lot of question marks about if he is too early or not, so no harm done there. Labamba shouldn't be there but he is, so would prefer he be given a couple of tests before likely being thrown in the fail basket. Renshaw should certainly not have been picked, he is just too out of form. Love that my man Richardson is in, he will do some damage.
 

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My main problem with the team is Marnus at 4 and Patterson at 6, like, that just doesn't makes sense logistically. Put the more reliable guy at 4, and the guy at 6 who is more suited to an all-rounder / aggressive type role.
 

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Will Burns get another chance? You'd think Australia could win by an innings here, and he failed again.
 

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Will Burns get another chance? You'd think Australia could win by an innings here, and he failed again.
More importantly, will Khawaja? 1x 50 in his last 12 First Class innings at an average of 24.6 is pretty abysmal. Definitely an argument to be made that he should be making way before any of the others do based on recent form.
 

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More importantly, will Khawaja? 1x 50 in his last 12 First Class innings at an average of 24.6 is pretty abysmal. Definitely an argument to be made that he should be making way before any of the others do based on recent form.
Certainly is but let’s hope the selectors have stopped this one or three bad innings and you’re out policy that applies to everyone not surnamed Marsh.

Usman played a fantastic innings in the UAE not too long ago. He is one of only three world class batsmen Australia has overall and the only one available. He shouldn’t and won’t be dropped just because he is out of touch.

Then again, with these selectors, who knows.
 

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