Brett Stewart - Not Guilty!

[mrslong]

Great, great news.

Good for the game.

Couldn't have come at a better time either.

Now I hope the father/daughter face some serious charges for falsification etc.

 

[Emma]

Why? Is there any evidence to prove they made it up?

 

[mrslong]

Why? Is there any evidence to prove they made it up?

I'm pretty sure there is. I have read there is video footage of her rushing him, there was no dna evidence on his hands etc etc. I don' thave the links though, I've just read it all over time. It just looked more and more like a set up by a dodgy father and his schizophrenic daughter.

 

[Emma]

It still comes down to a he said she said though. Surely if the evidence was there to prove it was all a lie, it would never have made it to trial.

 

[mrslong]

It still comes down to a he said she said though. Surely if the evidence was there to prove it was all a lie, it would never have made it to trial.

Yes, that is true - but like you said it was always a he said/she said thing. She said "he did this", he was there, he was blind rotten drunk, there was an altercation and there was witnesses. Also, he is an NRL player.

 

[Flutterby]

Interesting though that it wasn't until Stewart's girlfriend was on the stand that it first was said that the girl was the one trying to kiss him (which Stewart himself also said when he took the stand). I mean seriously if that was 100% true, why wouldn't he have said that from the start - 18 months ago.

Facts are I don't think there is any rock solid evidence one way or the other. The only people who really truly know are Stewart and the girl involved.

 

[Foordy]

Great, great news.

Good for the game.

Couldn't have come at a better time either.

Now I hope the father/daughter face some serious charges for falsification etc.

Not Guilty doesn't mean that he was innocent. it just means that they were unable to prove that he did it.

unfortunately guilty people do get found not guilty (especially in these sorts of cases)

 

[Porthoz]

Great, great news.

Good for the game.

Couldn't have come at a better time either.

Now I hope the father/daughter face some serious charges for falsification etc.

Not Guilty doesn't mean that he was innocent. it just means that they were unable to prove that he did it.

unfortunately guilty people do get found not guilty (especially in these sorts of cases)

Yeah, that is also to prevent innocent people being punished, because no matter how you put it, it's better to let 10 guilty people go than jail an innocent one.

The culture amongst many young girls/women of throwing themselves to celebrities, also brings the cases were rejection turns into something ugly like this.
I've witnessed it several times in Europe with soccer players, where girls basically told them that either they accept their advances or they will accuse them of sexual assault, indecent behavior, etc... [icon_shru
Once you've been accused of that, unless there's irrefutable proof of the contrary, you'll be branded for life!

Of course we have the other side of this with the Greg Brids of this world... [icon_non

 

[mrslong]

and thus the reason why if he truly didn't do it, he should counter sue for having his name soiled like this.

Everyone is still talking as though he did it. :evil:

The truth is this: the father has been convicted of fraud in the past. The daughter has schizophrenia.

There was no DNA evidence that stewart had done anything wrong.

He is one of the few players that had a clean image.

And YET everyone still thinks he has gotten off on a technicality.

It stinks that mud sticks.

 

[Browny]

and thus the reason why if he truly didn't do it, he should counter sue for having his name soiled like this.

Everyone is still talking as though he did it. :evil:

The truth is this: the father has been convicted of fraud in the past. The daughter has schizophrenia.

There was no DNA evidence that stewart had done anything wrong.

He is one of the few players that had a clean image.

And YET everyone still thinks he has gotten off on a technicality.

It stinks that mud sticks.

I gather you're going down the defamtion line here, thing is there must be proof that they knew what they were saying to false. If the girl who is suffering from mental health issues truly believed that what she said occured then you have nothing.

The dad convicted of fraud in the past is not really relevant as all he said is what he saw and what his daughter said.

If im missing some evidence let me know tho icon_thumbs_u

 

[Kaz]

The truth is this: the father has been convicted of fraud in the past. The daughter has schizophrenia.

So because someone has a criminal past & someone has mental health issues, they are lying.


I hope you are never picked on a jury.

I have read there is video footage of her rushing him

I haven't read there was video evidence.

Don't you think the police would have taken the video into consideration before charging him.

 

[Nashy]

It's not up to us to debate why or what the police would have done.

It's been done.

But in saying that. Mental illness and past convictions shouldn't play a part. It should be based only on the evidence presented in this case.

 

[Flutterby]

The truth is this: the father has been convicted of fraud in the past. The daughter has schizophrenia.

Neither of which are at all relevant to the case

 

[Anonymous person]

But in saying that. Mental illness and past convictions shouldn't play a part. It should be based only on the evidence presented in this case.

of which there doesnt actually seem to be any.

so i think when you take into account the fact that theres no evidence AT ALL supporting her other than her fathers testimony and hers, the fact that hes been done for fraud and that shes got a mental illness should be taken into account IMO.

 

[Coxy]

But in saying that. Mental illness and past convictions shouldn't play a part. It should be based only on the evidence presented in this case.

of which there doesnt actually seem to be any.

so i think when you take into account the fact that theres no evidence AT ALL supporting her other than her fathers testimony and hers, the fact that hes been done for fraud and that shes got a mental illness should be taken into account IMO.

Fortunately, you're not responsible for our legal process [icon_wink

Clearly there was SOMETHING to the case or it wouldn't have gone to trial, end of story.

 

[Anonymous person]

Fortunately, you're not responsible for our legal process [icon_wink

Clearly there was SOMETHING to the case or it wouldn't have gone to trial, end of story.

there was a 17 year old girl crying rape, and an NRL footballer who was drunk.

unfortunately thats enough to get it to trial. it took the jury less than an hour, so obviously there was no evidence. there was no dna, no footage, no credible unbiased witnesses......what else could there be?

 

[Coxy]

Fortunately, you're not responsible for our legal process [icon_wink

Clearly there was SOMETHING to the case or it wouldn't have gone to trial, end of story.

there was a 17 year old girl crying rape, and an NRL footballer who was drunk.

unfortunately thats enough to get it to trial. it took the jury less than an hour, so obviously there was no evidence. there was no dna, no footage, no credible unbiased witnesses......what else could there be?

Sounds like numerous other sexual assault cases. Doesn't mean they're all baseless, nor does it mean they "cried rape".

 

[Flutterby]

Exactly Coxy - the legal system doesn't allow a case to go to court unless there is at least a 50% chance there may be a conviction, so there must have been SOME evidence (enough for the police to put in place an order preventing him from being anywhere near the girl so he had to move), though it clearly wasn't enough to convince the jury, or the defence team put enough doubt in the juror's minds.

I wasn't there when the incident happened, haven't seen the evidence, or heard the cases put forward so I don't know either way and won't put forward an opinion as to guilt or otherwise.

I just hope he can just get on with his life/career.