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Sounds to me like he’s pretty interested in Redcliffe
I understand the % of cap and how the cap goes up etc. Maybe $1M is where the cream of the crop props get paid. Ok.He and his management reportedly were demanding upgrades of $1 million a year for this year and $1.2 million for 2024 alone when he had his little hissy fit and asked to leave.
Sounds to me like he’s pretty interested in Redcliffe
I would let Cobbo go right now if we could.I want to love cobbo but I think he's going to turn into a lazy footballer. He looks a leg slower this year and really has done nothing to impress me. Hope I'm wrong
Sounds to me like he’s pretty interested in Redcliffe
And with Wayne essentially a non-issue after next year - unless something amazing happens, when the Bromwich bros retire, that club is going to have a few tough years. Most clubs struggle post Bennett.The comments from Haas say he's going to be staying.
He said being coached by Wayne was pretty special, but that's done and now he has a lot of love for Kevvie and what he's trying to do at the club.
That's a new one for you ... you usually think all our players will sign with the Roosters.
They’ll come hard as well. I don’t see Payne staying, very happy to be proven wrong.
Quick question. In the last few years, have you ever seen any of our players staying
I take your point about not needing to build a team around a prop if you have 3/4 of the spine as good players but premierships are still won with an equally good forward leader(s)I understand the % of cap and how the cap goes up etc. Maybe $1M is where the cream of the crop props get paid. Ok.
This whole we could build a team around him talk though…hmm..props play about 60mins a game.
look at the rorters, the riff, or Storm. They all have great forwards built around a SPINE.
We have the future in Mozer, Mam and Walsh. Add a 7 in there who picks himself and that’s what you build a team around.
Would we have won a premiership with Lazarus and no Walters/Langer?
The knights with The Chief and no Johns?
The Riff with JFH and no Cleary?
Definitely good points. I guess for us that leader of the pack is Patty. Future captain too. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to keep Payne, just not at “any cost”. He is an amazing player, but for how much?!I take your point about not needing to build a team around a prop if you have 3/4 of the spine as good players but premierships are still won with an equally good forward leader(s)
We had Langer and Walters/Lewis for 4 years and didn't come really close (maybe 1990 but got smacked by both grand finalists in the semis) to a premiership. It wasn't until Lazzo that we broke through and i would argue that Webke and Civo were integral to our other GF wins.
Harrigan was immense for the Knights in 1997 in both leadership (A Johns was early 20's and needed to be constantly pulled into lone) and general play.
JFH was similar for Penrith, a hard bastard who allows the spine to operate with go forward. Also has the extra workload of team enforcer and protector of players like Luai and Chrichton that most opposition want to beat the shit out of.
JWH also does it for Easts.
IMO you could swap the players around in your questions and get similar answers...
I agree, i'm fine with players wanting the bigger salary. I'd want it as well. I just think its a bit silly to say he owes us nothing. Like i said before, if you put all the incidents Payne has had here, and swap them with a player called, i dont know, Logan Bayliss-Brow, i doubt he keeps his job as a Broncos player.
Sound like a broken record probably, but i'd like to see us do what we used to and take a little less to keep the squad together. Plenty of them carry on about wanting to stay here and play finals with their mates, but when push comes to show not many of them back it up when they can earn more money.
That's utter rubbish. If you are a club with integrity your achievements on the field should have nothing to do with how you are treated. Payne has got away with stuff a lesser player wouldn't have. Simple as that. We have had players in the past done far less severe things than Payne and got the boot. Trying to excuse his behaviour based on performance on field is laughable.That`s a very long bow you are stretching there .
LBB vs Payne Haas ? They are not even in the same post code as far as ability and achievements .
How old is LBB ? How old was Haas on debut ?
That's utter rubbish. If you are a club with integrity your achievements on the field should have nothing to do with how you are treated. Payne has got away with stuff a lesser player wouldn't have. Simple as that. We have had players in the past done far less severe things than Payne and got the boot. Trying to excuse his behaviour based on performance on field is laughable.
Integrity ?
Thought it was about winning premierships ?
That`s what they get paid for .
Growth and redemption are the new integrity .
You mean, Coates & not Cobbo?Yes, Cobbo, Flegler and Herbie, so I’m not a great guide to go on, I’m about as accurate as the best NRL ref.