OFFICIAL Broncos Sourced Player Movement and Confirmed Signings - Locked

[Kooly87]

Well if what you say is true the only explanation is an intentional inside job to run the club into the ground. Why are so many people standing by to let that happen?

Why is it easier to accept deliberate sabotage than it is to just accept gross incompetence?

It's anecdotal I know, but in my experience at least people are just flat out hopeless at their jobs far more commonly than they are looking to sinisterly de-rail an organisation.

 

[Kooly87]

They need Steve Nance.

It isn't going to matter who they send to conduct a review if the people paying for the review are not willing to take on board any findings within it which don't suit their agenda.

 

[Painin the Haas]

Couldn’t we assume that with the results of this review and a new CEO in bound hopefully earlier rather than later that steps to steady the ship could be imminent?

 

[Kooly87]

Couldn’t we assume that with the results of this review and a new CEO in bound hopefully earlier rather than later that steps to steady the ship could be imminent?

Well possibly, but if the issues stem from board and management incompetence and there is no willingness from the owner to do something about that, then it isn't very likely to get better any time soon.

People seem to have seriously forgotten one very important thing in expecting wholesale changes from the new management - Paul White is RETIRING from the role. He wasn't fired or even asked to fall on his sword. In fact, the club has repeatedly extended his stay at the club this year and now into next year too which is as ringing an endorsement of the job he's doing from the board and owners as you can get.

His leaving should in no way be interpreted as a sign that the board or the owners wanted to install a new CEO and ring in the changes as a result of our shit season or the circumstances we find ourselves in. If White was younger and/or wanting to stay, I have very little doubt he'd still be our CEO for the forseeable future and Donaghy wouldn't have even come onto our radar, that's how fucked we currently are.

 

[Sproj]

It isn't going to matter who they send to conduct a review if the people paying for the review are not willing to take on board any findings within it which don't suit their agenda.

That’s the key issue. For the idiots in charge, if everything is about them, then the club suffers and this is where we are at. They don’t care about the club more than their own positions, so you could have the best and most renowned reviewer in the world come in and say the problem is you and they just laugh it off and ignore that bit while scapegoating someone who isn’t in the in-club.

It’s an absolute disgrace and it reared its ugly head after 58-0 and absolutely nothing changing from it. That wasn’t the start as the issue has obviously been there a long time but that was when it bared its ugly head.

That should be the title of the book that eventually gets written about this dark time in Broncos history - 58-0, The Death of The Mighty Trojan Horse, killed from within.

 

[broncos4life]

Why is it easier to accept deliberate sabotage than it is to just accept gross incompetence?

It's anecdotal I know, but in my experience at least people are just flat out hopeless at their jobs far more commonly than they are looking to sinisterly de-rail an organisation.

Because usually in even severe incompetence when you completely bottom out it is at least a reality check and either you realise shit needs to be different or someone else steps in to change things. The fact that this apparently hasn't happened suggests to me at least deliberate attempts to remain that way.

 

[broncos4life]

Well possibly, but if the issues stem from board and management incompetence and there is no willingness from the owner to do something about that, then it isn't very likely to get better any time soon.

People seem to have seriously forgotten one very important thing in expecting wholesale changes from the new management - Paul White is RETIRING from the role. He wasn't fired or even asked to fall on his sword. In fact, the club has repeatedly extended his stay at the club this year and now into next year too which is as ringing an endorsement of the job he's doing from the board and owners as you can get.

His leaving should in no way be interpreted as a sign that the board or the owners wanted to install a new CEO and ring in the changes as a result of our shit season or the circumstances we find ourselves in. If White was younger and/or wanting to stay, I have very little doubt he'd still be our CEO for the forseeable future and Donaghy wouldn't have even come onto our radar, that's how fucked we currently are.

I do find it hard to believe that Donaghy would leave a club like the Storm to move to the same position here if he wasn't given certain assurances from the board or at least done his own due diligence to make sure he can shape things the way he needs to. He is moving from the most successful club in the last decade to the spooners so if he hasn't done that then he isn't the guy we think/hope he is.

 

[pagey]

Walsh is all powerful now.

I'm guessing that is a bad thing

 

[Kooly87]

Because usually in even severe incompetence when you completely bottom out it is at least a reality check and either you realise shit needs to be different or someone else steps in to change things. The fact that this apparently hasn't happened suggests to me at least deliberate attempts to remain that way.

I'd say people having genuine inner reflection and thorough self evaluation in times of crisis is actually fairly rare indeed. Genuinely excellent leaders and people do this of course, but I suspect you'll find there are few, if any, genuinely excellent leaders or people left at the Broncos.

It's far, far more common in my experience that people will look to shift blame or go into a silo of self preservation to avoid losing their jobs or power. I suspect this is exactly what's happening at the Broncos right now. I guess that technically is internal sabotage in a sense so to some extent you might be right.

To be frank though, I'd say that if you suspect the current management of attempting to destroy the place deliberately from the inside that you overestimate both their ability and level of competence to actually be able to pull that sort of thing off. Corporate Australia is riddled with people who stumbled their way into positions of power for one political reason or another that they are simply not skilled for and it would be naive to think the Broncos are any different in this regard.

 

[Bongo]

Just curious what administrative experience does Steve Walters have to warrant that job?

I think he had that role at origin level

 

[Sproj]

Well this thread is kinda even more depressing than before.

 

[pagey]

Well this thread is kinda even mire depressing than before.

Yeah was all positive yesterday morning then I gave Joe a nudge and he's unleashed hell on us lol
(Much appreciated though Joe, would rather know than be in the dark. )

 

[broncos4life]

I'd say people having genuine inner reflection and thorough self evaluation in times of crisis is actually fairly rare indeed. Genuinely excellent leaders and people do this of course, but I suspect you'll find there are few, if any, genuinely excellent leaders or people left at the Broncos.

It's far, far more common in my experience that people will look to shift blame or go into a silo of self preservation to avoid losing their jobs or power. I suspect this is exactly what's happening at the Broncos right now. I guess that technically is internal sabotage in a sense so to some extent you might be right.

To be frank though, I'd say that if you suspect the current management of attempting to destroy the place deliberately from the inside that you overestimate both their ability and level of competence to actually be able to pull that sort of thing off. Corporate Australia is riddled with people who stumbled their way into positions of power for one political reason or another that they are simply not skilled for and it would be naive to think the Broncos are any different in this regard.

My point being that the people above this shitshow, the owners News LTD you would think come in and sort shit out instead of keeping their patsy Morris in place. To me this suggests they are getting exactly what they want, a huge uptake in numbers based on Broncos fans reading hoping for something positive and the haters (everyone else) reading to bask in the glow of our continuing demise.

 

[Kimlo]

Any interest in Josh Mansour?

Definitely. Reliable player, who's a beast at making metres, is good in defence, and a good bloke off the field. Given Panthers don't want him, I don't imagine he'll be chasing big dollars, just the opportunity to play 2 more years.

 

[Bongo]

The Bulldogs and the Tigers show when your front of house is a basket case you can't go anywhere on the field. If what has been said is true you can add Broncos to this list. Nolan, White, Lockyer, Morris all need to go but sadly there is no way to make it happen, especially while the club is owned by News Ltd. The Storm were looking at a fan owned model for the club. Maybe some sort of fan financial takeover is in order at the Broncos. Whether News Ltd would sell is another thing. $50 million might be the minimum asking price

 

[abashii]

My point being that the people above this shitshow, the owners News LTD you would think come in and sort shit out instead of keeping their patsy Morris in place. To me this suggests they are getting exactly what they want, a huge uptake in numbers based on Broncos fans reading hoping for something positive and the haters (everyone else) reading to bask in the glow of our continuing demise.

Maybe. Don't forget for all some members like to crow about our massive 50 million dollar net worth the club is a rounding error for News Corp or any other big business.

 

[Morkel]

Maybe. Don't forget for all some members like to crow about our massive 50 million dollar net worth the club is a rounding error for News Corp or any other big business.

Exactly. There is no reason to believe they wouldn't use it as a tool to bring more business to their primary revenue source.

 

[Gaz]

It just shows how bad things are getting when the idiots who flew us into the goddamn mountain still have their death grip on the controls and won't let the new coach have any say. Newsflash shitheads, the fucking football team is the entire focus of the business. It's the club's raison d'etre. **** any of these dickheads who think the short term bottom line is more important than actually having a team worth a pinch of shit.

We are the most profitable club in the NRL yet have the wooden spoon.

Fucking ridiculous!

Clearly not enough of those profits have been channeled back into badly needed resources.

I understand the shareholders need to be appeased but not to the extent of making the club unsuccessful and a fucking shambles. White and company - you should be ashamed of yourselves.

They appear to spend more time being concerned with what's happening in the corporate boxs rather then what’s happening out on the footy field with the spoon being the result.
We badly need that part to change before we have any hope at all of getting a half decent team back on Lang Park.