Can any team beat the Storm?

[mick]

take off the broncos coloured glasses and watch it again. some horrible, horrible calls went against melbourne. it was the first match Frank has ever seen where the Broncos clearly got the help of the refere.

We definitely got the better rub of the green. Have done in this match and plenty of others over the years. It helps.

BUT a good team will ALWAYS overcome an obstacle like a bit of luck here and there. We were going to win that night regardless. The ref didn't "screw" them over. They did it themselves.

Take off your anti-Broncos glasses by the same token, Stu, because this club could achieve world peace and then win 20 premierships in a row and you'd still carry on like a teenage girl on her rags. [icon_thumbs_do

 

[Emma]

Most on here at the time had no trouble admitting some terrible calls went against Melbourne. However that was nearly 2 years ago. I have no trouble admitting it and am not a blind fan, but the frustration was probably due to the fact that most of us are sick of still hearing about it so far down the track rather than disputing the point with you Frank.

 

[mick]

No, I agree, blind faith is, well, blind. But it's not a good sign of support if you only ever highlight the negatives. You're a bit like our old "friend" Phantom from around these parts, only bag them, never praise them. Though I'll give you some credit, you at least post whether the Broncos win or lose. Phantom only posts when they're losing.

Frank doesnt feel the need to come on here gushing about how nice the players looked at training or how gutsy they were in their loss - theres a hundred people on here that do that already. Frank doesnt care for everyone sitting around patting each other on the back.

There's a difference - MOST decent people give credit where it's due, and criticise where it is due.

Some gush stupidly over everything, and never have a bad way to say about the team.

Just as annoying is people such as yourself, who will criticise at any and every given opportunity when it comes to the Broncos (yet are strangely willing, able and ready to heap praise on Qld and other NRL teams...)

 

[Hamm.0]

take of the broncos coloured glasses and watch it again. some horrible, horrible calls went against melbourne. it was the first match Frank has ever seen where the Broncos clearly got the help of the refere.

Well actually only 3 questionable calls in the entire game. In order;

One was the Berrigan head-high incident, which should have gone to the Storm.
Two was the no-try, however, watch the replay and you can see a white hand and a brown hand. The white hand knocks the ball. At best, it is a double knock-on, which still wouldn't have resulted in a try!!!
Three was the "forward pass" which actually touched Hodges hand.

2 years on...Storm should have won, but not because of a referee, because they shouldn't have made all the dumb shit mistakes they made in the first half.

 

[Nashy]

I'll admit, the ref made some horrible calls in that Grand Final, but as they say, thems the breaks.

I have a feeling Melbourne is going to tumble this year, I've said it from the start of the season. They will be this years biggest choke.

 

[Coxy]

I'm sure there were dodgy refereeing decisions last year too, the Storm racked up 34 points. If you're good enough, no amount of refereeing blunders can stop you.

 

[Coxy]

Didn't ask you to agree with me, because it's not a debate. It's a cold, hard fact.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Didn't ask you to agree with me, because it's not a debate. It's a cold, hard fact.

Hardly. Perfect example was that origin match where lockyer scored just before the touch line, ref said no try, nsw went on to score. We drew that game, and were the much better team all game.

 

[Coxy]

Queensland's goalkicking was inferior on the night, was it not?

Ipso fatso, they weren't good enough to win despite the referee's mistakes.

My point stands.

 

[mick]

Didn't ask you to agree with me, because it's not a debate. It's a cold, hard fact.

Hardly. Perfect example was that origin match where lockyer scored just before the touch line, ref said no try, nsw went on to score. We drew that game, and were the much better team all game.

But the whole "we wuz robbed" is just crap, unless scores are tied with seconds left and the ref makes a call like blowing a DODGY penalty in front of the posts.

If there's some call in the 20th minute that goes against you, it can't be stated as a reason for clearly losing you the match. Any decent team has 60 minutes to turn it around.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Queensland's goalkicking was inferior on the night, was it not?

Ipso fatso, they weren't good enough to win despite the referee's mistakes.

My point stands.

Your point doesnt stand because they didnt win, your point is proven wrong in that a team can be the best team on the night but lost because of a ref blunder. It happens. Not all ref blunders cost a team a match, and in most circumstances, i agree, you have to overcome them, but some, mainly those in state of origin, which are close matches, are crucial!

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Didn't ask you to agree with me, because it's not a debate. It's a cold, hard fact.

Hardly. Perfect example was that origin match where lockyer scored just before the touch line, ref said no try, nsw went on to score. We drew that game, and were the much better team all game.

But the whole "we wuz robbed" is just crap, unless scores are tied with seconds left and the ref makes a call like blowing a DODGY penalty in front of the posts.

If there's some call in the 20th minute that goes against you, it can't be stated as a reason for clearly losing you the match. Any decent team has 60 minutes to turn it around.

I agree too, but my example was in the dying moments of the game

 

[mick]

Might be going off track, but I do wonder... WTF do the Broncos have to do to earn an iota of the praise that a certain three or four posters seem to heap on Nutley, Crocker, Slater, Melbourne, the Cowboys etc.?

 

[rissi_gurl]

IMO...storm are one of the most boring teams in the comp!
yeah they know how to win games and come GF i reckon they'll be there.
But i jus really really really dont want them to win it!!!

 

[Emma]

Boring? :shock: A backline consiting of Inglis, Slater and Folau is anything but boring. Last night's game, even though it was 0 - 0 for a long while, was a fantastic game. Wanna see what boring is? Watch the sharks.

 

[Coxy]

No it wasn't. Lockyer "scored" that try with about 15-20 minutes to go.

If QLD were THAT good that night, they would've a) stopped NSW scoring again, and b) Tuqiri would've kicked the goals. His goalkicking wasn't as good, and in that aspect NSW were superior on the night.

However, people are talking about Melbourne in 2006 as though they were 3 classes above the Broncos and that the ONLY reason the Broncos beat them was because of the referee. That's utter balderdash! The Broncos were by far the better team on the night, and hence, they won!

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Might be going off track, but I do wonder... WTF do the Broncos have to do to earn an iota of the praise that a certain three or four posters seem to heap on Nutley, Crocker, Slater, Melbourne, the Cowboys etc.?

Im not that crticial of the broncos anymore (i assume this post was partially directed at me). This year they are showing heaps more creativity in the forwards. There are fends, offloads and steppning now instead of one off bash and barge. There are still players i wish they would get rid of, namely michaels and stagg, and i will feel that way til they leave or retire. The reason i big up crocker etc so much is because of how much i love origin and anyone that puts in as much effort as nutley and crocker will forever be favourites in my eyes.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

No it wasn't. Lockyer "scored" that try with about 15-20 minutes to go.

If QLD were THAT good that night, they would've a) stopped NSW scoring again, and b) Tuqiri would've kicked the goals. His goalkicking wasn't as good, and in that aspect NSW were superior on the night.

However, people are talking about Melbourne in 2006 as though they were 3 classes above the Broncos and that the ONLY reason the Broncos beat them was because of the referee. That's utter balderdash! The Broncos were by far the better team on the night, and hence, they won!

Yeah im not entering into the 2006 final thing, i dont care, we won lol. Im just merely pointing out ur "fact" that refs cant cost a team a match.