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I think this deserves a wider audience than the ISC section. It's Broncos related, feeder club and ex players.


Early in a recent Super League game, commentator Paul Cullen remarked: "We've been going for 10 minutes and there's not a blade of grass that's not been stood on".
Leaving aside the double negative, you can picture the sort of game Cullen was describing – touchline to touchline attack, from the outset.
Now, I've already said that I could not remember a better weekend of football, given the comebacks and razor-edged finishes of the two preliminary semi-finals we had in the NRL.
But plenty of blades of grass went undisturbed.
The structured nature of NRL football could be one reason why the game is better to watch on television than live, in the view of all the people who also left seats at Allianz Stadium undisturbed.
The physical nature of the sport, which is harder to detect from the stands, is highlighted by tight camera shots while the ball movement – a feature of Australian football – is rather limited.
Result: you're better off watching it at home.
Step right up, Ben and Shane Walker.
The brothers, both former first graders at a number of clubs, have turned back the clock almost a century and have employed at Ipswich Jets a style of football favoured by Duncan Thompson, who captained North Sydney to their only two premierships in 1921 and 1922.
It's called "contract football" and it works like this: you have a 'contract' to pass the ball to your teammate if he is in a better position.
"If you played structured football, the way they do in the NRL these days, you make it easier for the defence to get three men into the tackle to do all that stuff I don't like – wrestling," Walker told Discord.
"The way we play, we test the defensive like three or four times on a single tackle. The defence can't get enough numbers in to wrestle and we play off the back of it."
Thompson, who died in 1980, once said: "Contract football is flowing football – it has no relation to bash-and-barge stuff – it is what rugby league is all about, or is supposed to be."
Ben Walker says he learned about it growing up in Thompson's home down, Toowoomba, where it was passed down from generation to generation.
He also says it works.
"It would work better in the NRL, where you can train fulltime," he said. "You need players who can catch and pass under pressure – but mostly just catch and pass.
"That actually takes a lot of work these days. I have had our players say to me after watching an NRL game on TV 'we would have towelled them up playing our style of football'."
The Jets fielded seven rookies in their final 17-man squad of the year; they made the finals this year and next year they will employ their free-flowing style even more.
"I won't say which NRL game I am talking about but one of those at the weekend, they played block play, block play, block play, kick.
"You could have defended it with your eyes closed."


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I can't remember the SMH giving too much coverage to the ISC before.
 
How awesome would it be if NRL coaches decided to adopt this philosophy?
 
You'd have to admit that this year, the Broncos best passages of play came from what looked like unscripted play.
 
gotta give it to the walker bros (granted im relying on 1910s commentary and results/statistical data alone) but for all I bagged them out as players (a time quite before i discovered this sacred place), they seem to be onto something as coaches. from a business/culture perspective im not sure id have the mettle myself to appoint them at a club like ours... but jeez it does make one reminisce about the kind of product the bronx served up in the 90s (not that you wouldnt factor the nature of the game into account when comparing... or that id give equal credit to Benny for that style as you would the Walkers for the Jets' output)
 
LOL a Benny dummy or a freakish bounce into Barb's hands... id claim credit for that if i was Griffin.... :hurt:
 
I have a friend who plays for the Jets and had a good chat with him over the weekend, and he says that everyone in their team is coached and trained to be a football player, not an athlete. He couldn't speak highly enough of the Walker brothers, reckons they're going to change how coaching is done in the future.
 
I have a friend who plays for the Jets and had a good chat with him over the weekend, and he says that everyone in their team is coached and trained to be a football player, not an athlete. He couldn't speak highly enough of the Walker brothers, reckons they're going to change how coaching is done in the future.

even though im a griffin sympathiser... this sounds like the complete opposite of what Griffin & Co had lined up for the Broncs the last few years.... and most NRL teams for that matter. would be awesome to actually watch them... sadly no dice down here in cockroach territory...
 
Imagine if Bennett brought them into the fold and brought back the Broncos of the 90s.

One can dream.
 
I really rate the Walker brothers as coaches, In fact, when we waiting for hook to be sacked, i suggested giving these guys a shot.

I hope they get a gig in the NRL soon ... and I hope its with us. it would be awesome if they became the Bennett succession plan
 
I have a friend who plays for the Jets and had a good chat with him over the weekend, and he says that everyone in their team is coached and trained to be a football player, not an athlete. He couldn't speak highly enough of the Walker brothers, reckons they're going to change how coaching is done in the future.

That's exactly how it used to be too. I strongly agree that it needs to go back to that.
 
I suppose it's a balance between free form and mistake free football. No doubt the the freestyle is a better product, but the rules now suit the wrestle and slowing the game down.i hope it works out for them and good triumphs over evil.
 
Sounds interesting for sure. I haven't watched any lower grades, since I don't have fox.

How is this different to say the Tigers last premiership year, or the Warriors on a red hot day? The Eels are another team that I would say have this kind of play in them.
 
A few things, it would be completely untrue to think that the Jets this year played ad-lib or off the cuff football. They had a style they stuck to and the team was picked to accommodate that style. It was done to exploit what other teams have and it was practiced all season.

It was all based on fitness, speed, and small men round the ruck. Sometimes two backs on the bench and a hooker. It slightly altered through the year.

Offloads and keeping the ball alive was paramount. It wasn't done haphazardly. Players had specific roles and positions within the keeping of the ball alive.

9 backs on the field is bold, it means that your forwards have to do a really good job of going forward. The Jets were able to do that on the back of Griffin who was outstanding this year and regularly gained his side 200m a game.

On the back of that forward momentum, they'd have two hookers and 9 backs on he field, streaming through the ruck and creating havoc for teams.
 
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I really rate the Walker brothers as coaches, In fact, when we waiting for hook to be sacked, i suggested giving these guys a shot.

I hope they get a gig in the NRL soon ... and I hope its with us. it would be awesome if they became the Bennett succession plan

Just playing the other side of the argument, the highest the Jets have finished in the four years with them as coach is 4th and out week one or two- Does that warrant an NRL gig?

Stone and Green won multiple premierships, Hook, Henjak and Kevvie all won premierships in ISC before they got a gig.

What should you need do at ISC before progressing?

I personally don't think you need to win premierships to get a gig, but I am not so sure that CEO's think like that.
 
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Any coach with creativity is worth considering. Even if it's just for a support role. Could possibly help balance out Wayne's old school approach too.
 
Mmmm... I like the idea or concept if you like but surely to gain real support it must be demonstrably successful. If this style was producing premierships then I'd say they would all be doing it. I'm a supporter of free flowing football and I'm not knocking the Walker brothers efforts. As someone pointed out earlier, the Warriors on a motivated day play a bit like that forcing defences into confusion and opening gaps.
 
Sounds good in theory. Although at NRL the defenses are so much more structured this play wouldn't work as well imo.
 

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