Corey Oates seeks advice from Justin Hodges about battle-scarred body

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BRONCOS sensation Corey Oates has sought the counsel of retiring skipper Justin Hodges to help his battle-scarred body survive the rigours of the NRL.
Oates is Brisbane’s most exciting back-row prospect, but the 106kg hulk concedes his career risks being cut short if he doesn’t get serious about looking after his imposing frame.
The strapping utility underlined his rare potential last week, displaying the speed of a winger and the power of a forward to stun Souths with a rampaging 95m solo try.


But behind the on-field hype is the off-field trauma of Oates having required nine operations — all before he celebrates his 21st birthday next month.
After just 50 games for the Broncos, Oates has undergone operations on both shoulders, both wrists and both knees. His left knee has been operated on twice, leaving Oates feeling the pain of worn cartilage he must manage for the rest of his career.

Enter Hodges. The veteran centre readily admits he failed to safeguard his body in his embryonic years at Red Hill, an attitude that caught up with Hodges as he battled incessant leg injuries into his 30s.


Now, with Oates having the potential to become one of the greatest forwards of his generation, Hodges is determined for his young cohort not to make the same mistakes.
“I have to make sure I look after my body now,” said Oates, who turns 21 on October 20.
“I still have a fair few years left in me, although the boys won’t back me on that comment with my body.
“Rehab has become the key for me. In the past, I never looked after my body but this year I’ve started to look after myself.

“Hodgo has become a good example. He keeps telling me that I have to look after my body now because it will benefit me later on in my career.
“Hopefully his advice, and looking after myself, will help extend my career.”
Oates is often compared to Broncos back-row legend Brad Thorn and the physical parallels are undeniable.


Thorn stood 195cm and tipped the scales at 116kg. At 192cm and 106kg, Oates has the potential to grow, but is reluctant to bulk-up given the battering his body has taken.
“That’s it, I’m done, I don’t want to get heavier. I’m happy with the size I’m at,” he said.
“The knees weren’t massive surgeries but the cartilage has been cleaned out. It’s a bit painful some days. I play a game and I wake up the next day with my knees aching.
“I just want to get fitter and stronger and look after myself.”
Oates admits he was surprised both by his 95m solo try and his selection on the wing ahead of Lachlan Maranta, Brisbane’s leading tryscorer this season.
“I do feel for Lachy, I didn’t expect to play against Souths but I’m making the most of my opportunities,” he said.
“I didn’t expect to score that try. At first, I looked for a bloke to pass it to, but there was no-one around so I backed myself and held him (Souths fullback Dylan Walker) off to score.
“I’d love to be there for the finals. I’m just doing what Wayne (Bennett, coach), tells me ... I don’t want to let anybody down.”
 
Maybe just book him in in the off season to get everything patched up for good. Long recovery time but it will never bother him again
 
Maybe just book him in in the off season to get everything patched up for good. Long recovery time but it will never bother him again

Can't patch up worn out cartilage*

(*NB not a doctor)

Let's hope he can stay as fit as possible for as long as possible, it'll only get worse moving into the forwards combined with getting that little bit older every year.
 
I have stated on several occasions my preference for Oates and that is in the centres until he is too slow. I'm pleased he wants to keep the weight down and I hope he stays out of the forwards for years. He reminds me of Gene Miles who took a long time to transition to the forwards.
 
I have stated on several occasions my preference for Oates and that is in the centres until he is too slow. I'm pleased he wants to keep the weight down and I hope he stays out of the forwards for years. He reminds me of Gene Miles who took a long time to transition to the forwards.

I'm a fan of this idea.....let him play in the centres until he slows up a bit. He sounds like he's already been battered around a bit, so transitioning to the forwards now will only burn him out even quicker !
 
I'm a fan of this idea.....let him play in the centres until he slows up a bit. He sounds like he's already been battered around a bit, so transitioning to the forwards now will only burn him out even quicker !

Who will he replace?!
 
Who will he replace?!
Perhaps it can be like in business, you know job share . Imagine how motivated the centres would be then. It's just an idea and having too many players for the one position has been an issue for coaches for a long time.
 
I said he should be turned into a full time Winger and I was shot down! I reckon it's his best spot for the foreseeable future!
 
I believe that Griffin caused many of Oates problems by prematurely placing him in the second row last year. I was resolutely against taking our second highest try scorer of 2013 from the wing and putting him in the scrum. I was also against Griffin taking our best try scorer and putting him in another position.
 
I believe that Griffin caused many of Oates problems by prematurely placing him in the second row last year. I was resolutely against taking our second highest try scorer of 2013 from the wing and putting him in the scrum. I was also against Griffin taking our best try scorer and putting him in another position.

No. You don't grow that big, that quickly without having issues with your body. 80 minutes on the wing is a lot more work than the 10mins he got a week under Griffin.
 
No. You don't grow that big, that quickly without having issues with your body. 80 minutes on the wing is a lot more work than the 10mins he got a week under Griffin.
Well, I'm not going to argue with you about that, my son turns 22 in January and is 110 kilograms and in the old measure 6'7". My view is that is absolutely the reason you wouldn't put him in the forwards and interestingly he cites two shoulder problems which I'd imagine was from heavy weights and tackling big forwards. You are entitled to your view but I don't really agree with your take on it. I wouldn't have taken a big boy ( no sleight intended) and put him in the forwards tackling giants, besides we had plenty of others to do that grunt work.
 
Oates was getting surgeries done before he was used in the forwards.

Probably made it worse being in the forwards.
 
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I said he should be turned into a full time Winger and I was shot down! I reckon it's his best spot for the foreseeable future!

I certainly wouldn't have shot you down !! I'm all for it.

I'll even go one step further and say wing, is his position !!!

Rampaging maniac, over 6ft tall....fast (enough), running the ball back into tired defenders...has to be a few points in that.
Teach him to leap and catch the high ball........

Awesome !!

If he goes into the backrow.......his body won't take it and he'll be gone

forever.
 
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Oates was getting surgeries done before he was used in the forwards.

Probably made it worse being in the forwards.
Fair enough...I don't have much clue about his younger days. Something I read years and years ago about a bodybuilder who had a young son who just wanted to be like Dad. Dear old dad in a misguided moment decided to introduce his boy to weights etc. According to the doctors years later the father had done tremendous damage to the developing frame of the child and I can't help thinking that Griffins obsession with bulking up and heavy weights would have done the young Oates, then 17/18 more harm then good. Of course Corey probably didn't know better either. Griffin and the medical staff should have IF that is indeed what happened. I have no evidence to support that of course, Griffin and the staff may have tried to dissuade Oates from going too heavy.
 

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