Dally M 2012

[Jeba]

I think you have to put into perspective of his involvement in matches. He was usually a stand out of the Roosters team and it is easy for him to pick up Dally M points like that. He has basically had enough good games to poll high but not enough to really make a big dent in the final tally.

That's pretty much the point I was making. It's easy for him to pick up points and he played quite shithouse for most the season.

 

[Bull Shark]

didn't see much of tonight's awards but the parts I did witness were bizarre .. George Piggins struggling to string two words together at the dais despite reading off a cue card .. Akuila Uate completely unable to speak a word of english other than "uhhhh, I dunno" when asked who was his toughest opponent and who'll win the comp :huh:

the season highlight montage was interesting as well - not one snippet of the broncos apart from other teams scoring on them ... Even that fat little low-light of 2012 Chris Sandow got a five-second cameo and Rabs Warren "look at him go" sound-up :confused1:

thank goodness for those grand old gladiators Norm Provan and Arthur Summons:thumbup1:

 

[Twiztid]

didn't see much of tonight's awards but the parts I did witness were bizarre .. George Piggins struggling to string two words together at the dais despite reading off a cue card ..

It didn't seem like he wanted to be there. Still seems like a cranky old man who had his toys taken away. Anyways good to atleast see him out somewhere not just bagging Russell and Peter in the Daily Telegraph every few months.

That's pretty much the point I was making. It's easy for him to pick up points and he played quite shithouse for most the season.

That is the Dally M scoring system though. Only judges on individual stand out performances and IMO he had a fair few key performances for the Roosters. He just couldn't help the rest of the crap the team were producing.

 

[Coxy]

That's Jeb's point. The dally m voting system is fatally flawed

 

[Browny]

The fact the media get to vote on it screws it all up.

Paul kent and co have NFI

 

[Coxy]

The fact the media get to vote on it screws it all up.

Paul kent and co have NFI

This is the problem. IMO it should be some combination of referees and captains or coaches. Referees perhaps giving a traditional 3-2-1, and captain/coach nominating a 3-2-1 from their opposition.

 

[The Brizz]

The RLW player of the hear is the best award to showcase consistent performance as it is out of 10 so if your team goes great you cant unluckily miss out on votes due to 5 other guys having blinders and good players in crap teams dont get punished and the ratings system rewards both stats and non stat qualities.

 

[Coxy]

The RLW player of the hear is the best award to showcase consistent performance as it is out of 10 so if your team goes great you cant unluckily miss out on votes due to 5 other guys having blinders and good players in crap teams dont get punished and the ratings system rewards both stats and non stat qualities.

The only downside I saw with the RLW award in the past (when i bothered buying the toilet rag) was you generally had the same journos covering games in Brisbane, Sydney, Townsville etc. So you had skewed results because what some journos consider an "8" others consider a "9" or a "7". So if you have a home town journo who consistently rates performances higher, you will do better than a player whose home town journo consistently rates performances lower.

It's still better than the Dally M, which has similar issues - same journos in same towns. And journos more than anyone get caught up with flavour of the month players like Kasiano, because they can create good headlines out of them.

I'd much rather have awards given by peers/referees than by journalists. They're much more likely to appreciate the less obvious but no less important "percentage" players.

 

[Bucking Beads]

It should be the Refs that give 3-2-1 votes and that is it IMO.

 

[Mr Fourex]

It should be the Refs that give 3-2-1 votes and that is it IMO.

The refs are flat out just keeping up with the game and not stuffing things up on their end. Asking them to also notice/acknowledge player of the match points as well......recipe for more shit decisions coming everybody's way.

 

[Mr Fourex]

I'd much rather have awards given by peers/referees than by journalists. They're much more likely to appreciate the less obvious but no less important "percentage" players.

Journos are like teenage school girl groupies.......playing with themselves over the latest flash in the pan. Fickle would be an understatement.

Should be a panel of ex-players/astute RL judges IMO...

 

[Big Pete]

It's always going to be a flawed system because it's judged by either commentators or journalists & most of the time they have to have their mind made up within an hour of the game going off air.

Even voting 3-2-1 on here I feel I need a replay because the result will cloud moments that pass my mind come the full-time siren.

Needs to be a better system and shouldn't be decided by journalists who have their own independent agenda. Every year, one club always seems to take the bulk of award so that the journos can spin a headline. It isn't right, especially when superior players aren't getting the recognition they deserve, recognition that could give them more money or even assist their club with more sponsorship opportunities.

I don't think last night was a great representation for the code either. Neither Brisbane or North Queensland could attend (Melbourne couldn't one year either) which always makes the event look trivial & the players seemed to be taking the piss when they were interviewed. I get the feeling, having a comedian conducting those interviews was a bad idea, they should get legends like Lewis, Lockyer, Daley & co. to do it or even just guys like Warren Smith or Andrew Voss with decades of experience interviewing these players.

Also, they need to get rid of captain of the year. What a waste of an award. How do you measure leadership? Especially when it's being judged on-field? Silly.

 

[Bucking Beads]

The refs are flat out just keeping up with the game and not stuffing things up on their end. Asking them to also notice/acknowledge player of the match points as well......recipe for more shit decisions coming everybody's way.

The AFL umps seem to be able to handle it so I can't see how the NRL refs wouldn't be able to do it.

 

[Big Pete]

Are their umpires under as much scrutiny as our refs?

Right now, they need less responsibility, not more of it. When the heat dies down (aka NSW stop crying, so when pigs fly really) I'd be all for it. At least they'd be better than journos.

 

[Kaz]

Our refs are can't even get the rules right, so they would probably stuff up the voting at well.

 

[Coxy]

Referees would already notice which players are standing out to them, and most importantly, they can add "Fairness" to their decision - how well the players conduct themselves on the field, lack of niggle, rapport with the referees.

I've heard too many commentators rave about Corey Norman this year to accept their judgment on quality players.

 

[The Brizz]

The Brownlow has a lot of issues as well due to Key Defenders and Key Forwards never winning the award despite some alltime legends playing those positions (Tony Lockett in 1987 or so was the last to do it) simply because they are on the end of free kicks both for and against so umpires don't appreciate them from that point of view and also because the on-ballers are getting so much more ball that the goal kickers and goal savers don't get appreciated by umpires. The fact Wayne Carey, Jonathon Brown, Gary Ablett, Stephen Silvagni, Jason Dunstall and Dustin Fletcher have never won or gone particularly close for the most part shpows how flawed there system is.

 

[Old Mate]

That shit halfback of ours finished behind only Cronk in the Dally M in regards to points and players playing halfback.