PLAYER Ezra Mam

Even so, a crash where nobody was injured more than minor, shouldn't double the penalty.
What can you not understand about the severity of causing a head on collision because you are driving on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic without a licence to drive a motor vehicle and then failing a drug test.
 
What part aren't some people here or elsewhere not getting.

He was charged & fined what others have been charged with. (the courts set a precedent)

If the police thought he was driving recklessly etc, they would have charged him with that. If people were injured they would have charged him with that.

The NRL can only go in what the court deems.

Just say for arguments sake, Mam was found not guilty on a technicality. The NRL wouldn't have been able to ban him, as he is classed as innocent, even though he crashed etc.

And before I am burnt at the stake, I wanted him sacked. But it is what it is.
 
I was hoping for 6 weeks expecting 12 so 9 still a gift.
The NRL should absolutely provide an explanation with recent similar incidents and I agree with redux the Brown 7 weeks is baffling by comparison.
From a Broncos POV this is a godsend TBH. This kid wasn't copping the tip, if anyone was actually trying to talk to him.
It seems something like this was inevitable with Ezra.
This is his wake up call, we either get to see the best of him or he does some more dumb shit and gets sacked.
 
What part aren't some people here or elsewhere not getting.

He was charged & fined what others have been charged with. (the courts set a precedent)

If the police thought he was driving recklessly etc, they would have charged him with that. If people were injured they would have charged him with that.

The NRL can only go in what the court deems.

Just say for arguments sake, Mam was found not guilty on a technicality. The NRL wouldn't have been able to ban him, as he is classed as innocent, even though he crashed etc.

And before I am burnt at the stake, I wanted him sacked. But it is what it is.
NRL are charging him with bringing the game into disrepute, which he has with a drug present and causing an accident driving unlicenced.
The length of the ban by comparison to others is the issue not the ban itself.
 
The NRL has always based its punishments on the outcome, not the cause. Two almost identical actions (eg, shoulder to the head) where one tackled player gets up unaffected, and the other is knocked unconscious and has a broken jaw, we know that one is going to be dealt with more severely.

In this case, we don't have the "potential" for a collision, we have an actual collision, which of course is going to be dealt with more harshly.
 
NRL are charging him with bringing the game into disrepute, which he has with a drug present and causing an accident driving unlicenced.
The length of the ban by comparison to others is the issue not the ban itself.

No one gives a rats, if a player has drugs in their system, unless it's performance enhancing.

It's like the NRL think they are a court of law with their no fault stand down policy.

The NRL are going to be sued one day, for the no fault stand down policy, if a player is found not guilty. eg: Jack de Belin, Tristan Sailor
 
What part aren't some people here or elsewhere not getting.

He was charged & fined what others have been charged with. (the courts set a precedent)

If the police thought he was driving recklessly etc, they would have charged him with that. If people were injured they would have charged him with that.

The NRL can only go in what the court deems.

Just say for arguments sake, Mam was found not guilty on a technicality. The NRL wouldn't have been able to ban him, as he is classed as innocent, even though he crashed etc.

And before I am burnt at the stake, I wanted him sacked. But it is what it is.

I'd dispute that, he's still breached his code of conduct and behaviour in his contract.
 
What can you not understand about the severity of causing a head on collision because you are driving on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic without a licence to drive a motor vehicle and then failing a drug test.
Who says I can't understand it?

Just because you and I come to a different conclusion as to the appropriate outcome doesn't mean I don't understand something.

I never said anything like he should not be suspended, or should only be a week or two.

I'm actually pretty happy with 9 weeks viewed in isolation, what gets me going is inconsistency.

Going to the extreme the other direction, Pearce, was fined $125,000 and suspended for eight games for acting like a fool, but nobody was in danger of being hurt.

There seems to be no system to guide the decisions, it's just all arbitrary and I really struggle with that.

Please don't accuse me of failing to understand something simply for not agreeing with you.
 
What can you not understand about the severity of causing a head on collision because you are driving on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic without a licence to drive a motor vehicle and then failing a drug test.

He actually veered into the wrong side of the road, like he had fallen asleep.
 
I'm not happy about people here excusing his actions, I think he is very lucky to get away with how he did at the end of the day, even if the victims milked it he still made victims from his negligent behaviour and has to face the consequences for it, now yes I get Sydney media will ride this and try make a mountain of a molehill but he still did something very fucked up and earned the punishment for it.

It's a bit ridiculous to even try and defend his actions. I don't even know how anyone can.

I think most who are feeling like 9 weeks is too much are those trying to compare this incident with another incident and for some reason it matters greatly to them. For me, he's lucky to even still have a contract, don't worry about what the NRL sanctions are, he is lucky to even still have a contract with the club. The comparison between Pearce and Mam? Was that even under the same administration? There's a bit of reaching going on in this thread.

9 weeks for what he did, Ezra would be happy with that, the club would be happy with that too. The only people aren't happy are those trying to draw comparison between other incidents which is incredibly hard to do. There's no grading system here. The grading is what the legal system decides. $850? yeah, that's a gift.
 
No one is defending his actions.

The courts can only go on the charges he got. What part of that is hard to understand. The magistrate can't go on other things that may have happened & he wasn't charged with.

I don't understand, why he had to face court, when he was pleading guilty.

JAC plead guilty to drug driving & got fined. Case over.

If I am ever charged with a crime, I am asking for a judge only trial, it's the safest way.
 
There's no Broncos tax.

He's never been considered for the All-Stars game, that's why. You have to prove you're going to be selected for a game to use that game towards your suspension. They ask the coaches themselves if the player would be selected if they were available.

Latrell and JAC are allowed to use it towards theirs because those two are always automatic selections when available.

Walsh was allowed to use the Origin game towards his suspension in '23.
It's a rule that should be changed imo. Bit unfair on all the people who aren't eligible for the allstars game based on their race.
 
It's a rule that should be changed imo. Bit unfair on all the people who aren't eligible for the allstars game based on their race.

IMO since they have introduced the pre-season challenge where you can win prize money for winning it, they should be classed as official games and they should be allowed to be used towards suspensions.
 
Mods please add this to the proper thread if it exists. I searched and could not find it.

I'm a bit concerned about this fella.

I know he is young and has a lot of upside. He can sniff out an opportunity and is always backing up. His defence is usually first class.

What I worry about is his decision making, particularly in the opposition 20. He seems very indecisive. He has a great running game but does not seem to choose the right time to use it. His kicking game or lack there of is particularly highlighted when close to the line. He just cannot seem to get it right lately. It's ok when Reynolds, Walters and Walsh can handle it up the field but on the opposition try line is where we really need him to pull his weight.

In time I think he will start to get it all together. I just think currently he may be holding us back a little. We most definitely have an opportunity to compete for a title this year and those opportunities converted will be crucial come finals time.

With Ben Hunt potentially joining us for the rest of the year I would argue our team may be better with Hunt playing at 6. It would be a tough call to make but and I doubt it would happen.
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Mods please add this to the proper thread if it exists. I searched and could not find it.

I'm a bit concerned about this fella.

I know he is young and has a lot of upside. He can sniff out an opportunity and is always backing up. His defence is usually first class.

What I worry about is his decision making, particularly in the opposition 20. He seems very indecisive. He has a great running game but does not seem to choose the right time to use it. His kicking game or lack there of is particularly highlighted when close to the line. He just cannot seem to get it right lately. It's ok when Reynolds, Walters and Walsh can handle it up the field but on the opposition try line is where we really need him to pull his weight.

In time I think he will start to get it all together. I just think currently he may be holding us back a little. We most definitely have an opportunity to compete for a title this year and those opportunities converted will be crucial come finals time.

With Ben Hunt potentially joining us for the rest of the year I would argue our team may be better with Hunt playing at 6. It would be a tough call to make but and I doubt it would happen.
What an ironic first comment in this thread.... 😂
 
There's no Broncos tax.

He's never been considered for the All-Stars game, that's why. You have to prove you're going to be selected for a game to use that game towards your suspension. They ask the coaches themselves if the player would be selected if they were available.

Latrell and JAC are allowed to use it towards theirs because those two are always automatic selections when available.

Walsh was allowed to use the Origin game towards his suspension in '23.
Selected for All Stars in 2023 but did not have a passport to go to NZ. Selected for Allstars in 2024 but withdrew due to groin injury. There is definitely a Broncos tax.
 
Who says I can't understand it?

Just because you and I come to a different conclusion as to the appropriate outcome doesn't mean I don't understand something.

I never said anything like he should not be suspended, or should only be a week or two.

I'm actually pretty happy with 9 weeks viewed in isolation, what gets me going is inconsistency.

Going to the extreme the other direction, Pearce, was fined $125,000 and suspended for eight games for acting like a fool, but nobody was in danger of being hurt.

There seems to be no system to guide the decisions, it's just all arbitrary and I really struggle with that.

Please don't accuse me of failing to understand something simply for not agreeing with you.
Firstly I asked a question - not made an accusation, although I can see how you might take it that way.

Your brief appears to suggest penalties or fines in this case should reflect the extent or severity of injuries caused by the incident. (Minor injuries shouldn’t double the penalty)

I think you will find that most investigators will take into account the cause, in particular the root cause of an incident or accident that led to those injuries to determine if a penalty or fine is justified. The size of the penalty or fine, if at all, will usually result from that investigation.

Ezra has done extremely well with the powers that be and in my opinion anyone fobbing this off as minor are kidding themselves.
 

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