POST GAME Game III Discussion

theshed

Just a Game
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The evolution of Harry Grant has been tremendous to watch. His form in 2018-2019 was outstanding but he still had limitations particularly in 2018.

I thought he was a second rower playing hooker, he was robust and had a beautiful pass a bit like S. Walters but he attacked like a second rower. I thought his future might be away from hooker.

That probably helped him last night, he played two roles and did them both well.

Then 2019 and his attack under Eric Smith went to another level he went from five try assists to 21. He maintained his excellent defence but added 30m a game to his attack and nearly got it to 100m a game. Improving from eight tries to 14 but the assists were the big one.

He became a very good 'red flag' player. He knew when to run and how to run. To come off the bench last night and play two roles and sum up the situation straight away and have a massive impact was unbelievable.

Four players from Hodges' Under 20's team in 2018 made their debut this year- Brimson, Grant, Tino and Allan. Carrigan was captain.

In that Under 20's camp and the two years of ISC I had a lot to do with Grant and he was just a champion and still is, I spoke to him this week and he is just great to have around teams he is going to be a Queensland leader.
Surely he’s too small to be a decent second row?
 

john1420

NRL Player
Aug 27, 2008
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NSW media blowing up over the crowd booing Cleary when he was called on stage.

Seriously? They are complaining that a NSW was booed by a crowd in QLD? Fucking hell..

For me, the issue here is hypocrisy. NSW booed Wally, it's no different.
But the actual act of booing a player just because he is the opposition Captain, really is nothing more than really bad sportsmanship and honestly shithouse behaviour.
Yes, boo the hell out of Gallen when he played, but not because he is the NSW captain, but because he is a world class grub.
But Cleary? He plays the game fairly and doesn't deserve to be booed just because the colour of his shirt.
 

holdzy

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May 5, 2016
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For me, the issue here is hypocrisy. NSW booed Wally, it's no different.
But the actual act of booing a player just because he is the opposition Captain, really is nothing more than really bad sportsmanship and honestly shithouse behaviour.
Yes, boo the hell out of Gallen when he played, but not because he is the NSW captain, but because he is a world class grub.
But Cleary? He plays the game fairly and doesn't deserve to be booed just because the colour of his shirt.

Very soft take.

He does deserve to be booed because of the colour of his shirt, that's the whole point. No love lost in Origin.
 

Kooly87

NRL Captain
Jun 2, 2017
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As if Paul Gallen never got booéd as the losing captain at Lang Park. Lol.

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Upon rewatch, I am absolutely gobsmacked by our linespeed, led by Papalii. He was a king among men out there. The line speed did not die down either until probably the 70th minute. Because Once Papa & Welch went off, Arrow & Collins stood up. Even Friend, Grant, DCE & Munster were all exceptional at getting up and choking off the Blues attack. It was a masterclass in winning a game using your defense. Epic stuff.
Our Bench rotation was top shelf. NSW absolutely bottled this aspect of their campaign and it arguably was a major factor in costing them the series.

This really does highlight how critical top level coaching and strategy is in Origin and perhaps shows Fittler up for the coaching myth he probably is in this regard.
 

Kooly87

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Very soft take.

He does deserve to be booed because of the colour of his shirt, that's the whole point. No love lost in Origin.
Happens in both states every single year. You wouldn't be able to find an instance where it hasn't happened.
 

Super Freak

International Captain
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This dickhead seriously needs to be screened for CTE

He is right, though.

QLD won the series, but it doesn't change the fact that this is arguably the weakest team QLD has fielded in the 40 year history. It's most definitely the weakest team we've fielded in the past 15-20 years.

When you compare this team to the teams in the past, they were better teams.

It says a lot about NSW that they were beaten by such a team.
 

Big Pete

International Captain
Mar 12, 2008
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It's a dumb comment that fails to take into account the performances of the player. No game of Rugby League is ever won on paper, it's always the efforts on the field and the Maroons proved they were a much better team than given credit for.

If it was said before Game I that's one thing, to come out and say it afterwards was silly.
 

mrslong

State of Origin Captain
Mar 25, 2008
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Game 3 2006 was a pretty weak side at the time. We were next to no hope. Inglis, Hodges, Slater, K Hunt were all unavailable. We had to call up a cooked Wesser, Schifofske at fb, Mogg & Hannay. Lockyer was a "failure at 6" and as a captain (remember the Gus Gould article slamming him after game 1), Cam Smith had won squat (Bedsy was the Australian hooker), and JT was a youngster coming off the 2005 Origin and GF loss. We were much maligned that game - a line break from JT to set up Tate, and an errant pass from Hodgson, and the rest is history.
 

JAHHW

NRL Player
Aug 24, 2017
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Let’s hope mark Hunt finishes him off
No hope needed.
When, not if, Hunt connects, it’ll be lights out.
Hunt split Struve’s jaw right up the hey-diddle-diddle from one punch, even though Struve had about a 14 inch height advantage.
Gallen pretty much stands in front of his opponent, so it’ll be a massacre.
 

Fitzy

QCup Player
Sep 10, 2018
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Oh yeah, I wasn't saying it was likely, just that there was a chance.

Like all of these are unavailable (in no particular order):

Munster
DCE
Fogarty
Hunt
Norman
Dearden
Morgan
Taylor
Clifford
Mann
Ponga
Brimson
Drinkwater
Lam
Walker
C.Smith
Grant
Alfie
Walters Jr

Then he's in.
May as well chuck the goat Papalii in their... I’m sure he could get the job done
 
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