GI - surely the 1st player picked in a 17 today.

[Professor47]

very tough call, would have to go with one of: thurston, smith or GI......

a few years ago, locky first for sure....

C smith! come on! That is a wacky first pick... he is so 'over-rated'.

 

[Coxy]

Hmm. I don't like Smith, I think he's a massive turd, but I wouldn't say he's overrated. Easily the best hooker in the game today. It's the "little things" that make him so good as well. He's creative around the rucks which lets his largely inferior Storm forwards play very effectively.

 

[Alec]

Smith's defense is one of the best in the comp too.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

those saying GI needs someone to set him up have very short memories. remember all 3 origin games? he beat ppl just using his fend, no help from anyone else

 

[Alec]

those saying GI needs someone to set him up have very short memories. remember all 3 origin games? he beat ppl just using his fend, no help from anyone else

Well, tbh he was marking up against dud defensive players like Jennings and Williams. [icon_razz1

 

[Charmamba]

i think most people said 9/10 times he needs someone to set him up no denying he can create his own. But the play makers around him help alot to make him look good.

 

[Coxy]

those saying GI needs someone to set him up have very short memories. remember all 3 origin games? he beat ppl just using his fend, no help from anyone else

Um, and who gave him the ball with room and time to do something? That's right, Mr Halfback and Five-eighth.

That's more what I mean. If you don't have players who can get the ball to him crisply from dummyhalf and through first and/or second receiver then he's no better than anyone else.

 

[ddd]

those saying GI needs someone to set him up have very short memories. remember all 3 origin games? he beat ppl just using his fend, no help from anyone else

Um, and who gave him the ball with room and time to do something? That's right, Mr Halfback and Five-eighth.

That's more what I mean. If you don't have players who can get the ball to him crisply from dummyhalf and through first and/or second receiver then he's no better than anyone else.

And its not restricted to halves who create the space, the forwards need to be doing their job in getting a roll on and giving the backs room to move, as good as Inglis is, a star centre in a luxury, not a necessity

 

[Coxy]

Exactly as Thurston said. Against the Kiwis they tried the Leiper game plan...just give it to GI. And it failed.

This week they tried to get a roll on first with the forwards, get the defence rolling back, then hit them with
GI on the fringes.

See that's why I roll my eyes when people go on about how Inglis is so great, can create something out of nothing, blah blah. He's no different to other dominant outside backs. Without momentum, quality ball, and some room to move he's (relatively) easy to contain.

 

[Anonymous person]

i agree and disagree.

if the halves can get good ball to him with time to move, 9 times out of 10 he'll go through. in that regard, its as much the halves as it is Inglis doing the good work.

but, like in origin, even if he gets the ball with nothing going on, Inglis is the type of player who can just make breaks on his own. his balance and fend are just incredible, IMO hes got the balance and fend not seen in a player since steve renouf.

as it is, yes, Inglis would be the first player i choose in a team.

 

[Kimlo]

Thurston/GI would be my pick for sure.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

See that's why I roll my eyes when people go on about how Inglis is so great, can create something out of nothing, blah blah. He's no different to other dominant outside backs. Without momentum, quality ball, and some room to move he's (relatively) easy to contain.

No different to any other dominant back? That is a load of bull! He is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than hodges, and hodges has the privledge of being outside lockyer every game. Hes much better than tonga who is outside thurston every game. As long as someone can get the ball to him to let him be 1 on 1 (or even 2 on 1) with the defence, he is able to create something, he doesnt need a pass from his half to get him outside the defence like many backs. To say hes no better than other dominant backs is ludicrous.

 

[Professor47]

Exactly as Thurston said. Against the Kiwis they tried the Leiper game plan...just give it to GI. And it failed.

See that's why I roll my eyes when people go on about how Inglis is so great, can create something out of nothing, blah blah. He's no different to other dominant outside backs. Without momentum, quality ball, and some room to move he's (relatively) easy to contain.

Not so sure about that one - no different to other dominant backs is a big call - He can have a mundane game if he doesn't get fed quality pill sure ... but there is definitely a bit more to it than that.

The Leiper game plan was shite - can't argue with that... but you STILL manage to rack up a draw when clearly the opp should have had the game with about 5mins to go (conversion missed or NOT).

He can have a lazy game but he's long range shots and simple fends just kill the opposition in the context of the game. (e.g the prelim this year... his try on half time was the nail in the coffin)

I'm not saying his the best I've seen or he doesn't need a playmaker - but he's a huge factor when you are up against him and IMO should be the first person picked in a 17 IF you had the first pick in a draft. (hypothetically)

 

[Flutterby]

GI is definately a massive asset, but Locky is still the first player picked for mine.

 

[Charmamba]

GI is definately a massive asset, but Locky is still the first player picked for mine.

thankyou im not alone.

Even after locky retires i would want a halves player first. You cant build a team around a Centre.


With locky retired my first 5 picks would be


1. Thurston
2. Ben Hunt
3. Inglis
4. hodges
5. Yow Yeh

 

[Alec]

If I didn't hate him, I'd probably go with Cam Smith first. He's an amazing player to build a team around. Can make an ordinary pack look good. It's no wonder that Storm success started when Orford left and Smith got the control of the side.

 

[Kimlo]

See that's why I roll my eyes when people go on about how Inglis is so great, can create something out of nothing, blah blah. He's no different to other dominant outside backs. Without momentum, quality ball, and some room to move he's (relatively) easy to contain.

No different to any other dominant back? That is a load of bull! He is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than hodges, and hodges has the privledge of being outside lockyer every game. Hes much better than tonga who is outside thurston every game. As long as someone can get the ball to him to let him be 1 on 1 (or even 2 on 1) with the defence, he is able to create something, he doesnt need a pass from his half to get him outside the defence like many backs. To say hes no better than other dominant backs is ludicrous.

As much as I love Hodges at rep level he really doesn't do much where as Inglis is amazing at rep level.
He's definitely by far the best back in the game and with every game he just amazes me with the sheer skill he has.

Still though I would prefer an awesome half like Thurston :P or Lockyer

 

[Professor47]

GI is definately a massive asset, but Locky is still the first player picked for mine.

thankyou im not alone.

Even after locky retires i would want a halves player first. You cant build a team around a Centre.


With locky retired my first 5 picks would be


1. Thurston
2. Ben Hunt
3. Inglis
4. hodges
5. Yow Yeh

That is fair enough but you wouldnt be able to get GI and probably not even Hodges if you leave him 4th.