-NEWS- Joe Ofahengaue charged for alcohol related offence in a vehicle

abashii

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As I recall the biggest resistance to letting TMR staff undertake traffic enforcement like operating speed cameras came from within the police union. They didn't want their members to lose things like getting OT to relax in a van on the side of the road, and probably didn't want to lose members to a different union either.
 

kooly87

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The QPS budget alone is beyond $2b a year. The ‘revenue’ raised is somewhere around $300m a year. Even if we didn’t raise a dollar in a single year for the Government, the ‘blow’ to their budget bottom lines isn’t much in the scheme of things.

The whole ‘filling Government coffers’ thing from police, is massively overblown when you actually look at how much the Government spends every year. We are a veritable drop in the sea of Government money.

My thoughts about the RPU are simply that they more than any other part of the service, interfere with the QPS relationship with the community. Partly because of their job and partly because of the attitudes of many of their members.

The QPS could do an awful lot with the money and resources it puts into road policing, TMR could do the role easily with an increase in staff and a re-jig of their powers and that negative aspect could be fobbed off elsewhere.

The only differences would be that the community would stop hating us for being ‘revenue raisers’ which would improve our relationship, and that a bunch of over-weight dudes would stop stuffing themselves into a QPS uniform that includes jodhpurs...
Thanks for taking the time for a very thoughtful reply. I hadn't considered how Highway Patrol might be influencing people's perceptions of the Police Force in general, but that's an excellent point. The only laws that probably 99% of people ever break are traffic infringments so that makes a lot of sense that for many people it might be damaging their relationships with Police in a broader sense and that can have all sorts of bigger impacts that manifest later on.
 
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Jason Simmons

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As I recall the biggest resistance to letting TMR staff undertake traffic enforcement like operating speed cameras came from within the police union. They didn't want their members to lose things like getting OT to relax in a van on the side of the road, and probably didn't want to lose members to a different union either.
That is true, but our union is relatively small and unimportant in the scheme of things. A confident and determined enough Government, wouldn’t care much about the hoo-har the QPUE would raise. The fact the Government of which ever persuasion has repeatedly declined to move police out of speed camera duties and bring in civilians to do it cheaper itself, shows that it isn’t all about ‘revenue raising’.

Police doing it on OT at (in some cases) more than $120 an hour, is hardly the most cost effective way of managing it and Victoria and (I believe) NSW have already done just that, but we in Qld have not.

However I was talking about ALL traffic work, not just speed camera duties. TMR inspectors, already have most of the legislated authority and training they would require to do the majority of traffic enforcement work and they do it cheaper than sworn police do...
 

Browny

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in the ACT the camera vans are run by civvies, bunch of douchebags as well. They still ping us going lights and sirens to a priority job and then we have to justify getting off the ticket.

Theres a reason traffic are called jury fuckers
 

Jason Simmons

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in the ACT the camera vans are run by civvies, bunch of douchebags as well. They still ping us going lights and sirens to a priority job and then we have to justify getting off the ticket.

Theres a reason traffic are called jury fuckers
Same up here, except it’s our own pinging us...

What happens with the brief when someone pleads not guilty to one of the civvy pinged offences? I assume a sworn officer somewhere has to prepare the brief and that civvy is used as a witness?
 

McHunt

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in the ACT the camera vans are run by civvies, bunch of douchebags as well. They still ping us going lights and sirens to a priority job and then we have to justify getting off the ticket.

Theres a reason traffic are called jury fuckers
Same up here, except it’s our own pinging us...

What happens with the brief when someone pleads not guilty to one of the civvy pinged offences? I assume a sworn officer somewhere has to prepare the brief and that civvy is used as a witness?
Let me remind you pair of cowboys that "EVERY K OVER IS A KILLER." If you came into my court flaunting the speed limit I'd have no hesitation in finding you guilty of attempted murder. Unless your name is Clive Frederick Palmer, you're not above the law.
 

Browny

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Same up here, except it’s our own pinging us...

What happens with the brief when someone pleads not guilty to one of the civvy pinged offences? I assume a sworn officer somewhere has to prepare the brief and that civvy is used as a witness?
You get a please explain from your OIC and generally if you attribute to the priority job it gets written off. Provided you aren’t doing ludicrous speed.
 

Jason Simmons

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You get a please explain from your OIC and generally if you attribute to the priority job it gets written off. Provided you aren’t doing ludicrous speed.
We have the same system, though it goes to Superintendent level to exculpate us, but I was referring to normal issued tickets to members of society. If they contest a speed camera ticket in the ACT, who prepares the briefing for the hearing?
 

Foordy

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Ofahengaue plead guilty and was fined $1000 and suspended from driving for a minimum of 3 months
 

Wolfie

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I know Joe pretty well and he is a good fella, but he does have a tendency to do some stupid things.
 

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