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1997 Minor Qualifying Final, Parramatta Eels V Newcastle Knights, 5th September 1997 SFS
The Knights come from behind to win a bruising encounter over the Eels by 28-20 on their way to the 1997 Grand Final
Road to the finals
In the worst year in Rugby League history with divided competitions the ARL went for a 12 team competition with a top 7 finals series. The Knights finished second behind the might of the competition Manly with 29 points despite missing Andrew Johns for half the season. Parramatta finished 3rd making their first finals series since winning the premiership since 1986, after winning 11 straight games at one point in the season.
Teams
Parramatta Eels
1: Paul Carige
2: Ian Herron
3: Karl Lovell
4: Nathan Barnes
5: Eparama Navale
6: Jason Bell
7: John Simon
8: Dean Pay (Captain)
9: Aaron Raper
10: Justin Morgan
11: Jason Smith
12: Jarrod McCracken
13: Jim Dymock
14: Troy Campbell
15: Brett Horsenell
16: Russel Wyer
17: Darren Pettet
Coach: Brian Smith
Newcastle Knights
1: Robbie O'Davis
2: Darren Albert
3: Matt Gidley
4: Owen Craigie
5: Adam McDougall
6: Matthew Johns
7: Andrew Johns
8: Paul Harragon (Captain)
9: Brett Clements
10: Tony Butterfield
11: Bill Peden
12: Adam Muir
13: Mark Glanville
14: Wayne Richards
15: Troy Fletcher
16: Brett Grogan
17: Mark Hughes
Coach: Malcom Reilly
The game
It's great that despite the war raging of the field the quality on the field was as good as ever. A day after the Roosters pulled of a remarkable win in a 100 minute battle with the Bears the previous day, Newcastle carried their momenteum into the finals and continued their 4 game winning streak coming from 18 points behind to beat Parramatta after having players go down injured.
Parramatta fired out of the blocks punishing Newcastle for their terrible start to the game. Nathan Barnes, Jason Bell and Ian Herron scored tries and with Herron kicking 3 goals Parra were 18 points in front. Newcastle started to get some drive and they made it count after having no possession for the first 20 minutes. Running the ball on the last and taking some risks M.Johns put Adam McDougall over for his first try and combined well on the inside with Peden who put Muir over under the posts and after another try to McDougall the Knights were only 2 points behind. The Knights then suffered a huge blow as O'Davis suffered a brutal headknock when attempting to spot a try for Parra on the stroke of halftime which meant he wouldn't be back for the second half.
In an arm wrestle of a second half both sides couldn't take control but Herron extended Parramatta's lead to 4 points with a goal. In the 55th minute the game was tied up as Andrew Johns scored a brilliant individual try, running for 30 meters and beating 5 Parramatta defenders but his injuries returned as he damaged his ribs when going over to score. The Knights now were pumped with confidence and after a goal by Craigie a couple of minutes later that put Newcastle in front for the first time a controversial decision to give Grogan a try when the replays showed he didn't ground it put the Knights 8 points clear. A buffer they held on to, to win 28-20 to kick start their finals campaign in the right way.
Match Summary
High quality finals battle. Great tries, comeback from nowhere, strong individual performances, controversy, good story to tell afterwards. The game had everything and is everything a finals game should be. Crowds really tuned out during 1997 but those who showed up really got their moneys worth. Parramatta started strongly but after that they just couldn't finish the Knights off and some big plays from Matthew Johns and some luck went their way and they finished with a deserving victory.
How well did Andrew Johns play?
Apart from that great individual effort that got the scores tied up Johns was pretty loose in this game and was obviously not at 100% which really impacted him. Johns was picked for NSW in 1997 on the back of 30 minutes of game time and was reportedly going to die if he played in the Grand Final, he played with broken ribs, ankle injuries and punctured lungs. He still had an impact on the game but there were other players on his team that were better. Came up with some good kicks, only had 1 strong run which was the try and came up with some good tackles. Not great but not bad.
Newcastle Knights 28: 2 tries by Adam McDougall and tries by Adam Muir, Andrew Johns and Brett Grogan, 4 goals by Matthew Johns
Parramatta Eels 20: Tries by Jason Bell, Nathan Barnes and Ian Herron, 4 goals by Ian Herron
Notes
- It seems like the 1997 ARL finals series was great to watch from start to finish. There were some great games throughout that finals series which really showed just how great a game Rugby League is. The 1997 Grand Final is imo the greatest Grand Final in history and it was a high quality game from start to finish but the rest of the finals sounds like it was awesome to watch. The Roosters and Bears played a 100 minute battle, this Knights game, Paul Harragon V Mark Carroll, both preliminary finals went right down to the wire (Newcastle beat Bears 17-12 and Manly beat Roosters 17-16) and the of course the magnificent grand final, the Gold Coast also made their only finals appearance in 1997. The Super League season on the other hand and it's finals seem pretty farcical, tbh the Super League season looks like a real failure and i have heard it wasn't that good.
- It was a very bruising encounter. Robbie O'Davis, Matt Gidley and Andrew Johns suffered injuries whilst for Parramatta Jason Bell, Dean Pay, Paul Carige and Ian Herron were forced off.
- There was some very controversial referring decisions. Bell dropped the ball when attempting to ground the ball and the Grogan try was pathetic as it was obvious on replay that he didn't ground the ball or get near out.
- Darren Albert is famous for his try in the 1997 Grand Final but he did some very good things throughout that finals series for the Knights. He came up with some desperate try savers in this game, came up with a great tackle on Matt Seers in their game against Norths and in the Grand Final he came up with some very good plays in that second half that got them out of trouble. He deserves a bit more credit for their premiership.
- Aaron Raper looks like a 1999 eminem
The Knights come from behind to win a bruising encounter over the Eels by 28-20 on their way to the 1997 Grand Final
Road to the finals
In the worst year in Rugby League history with divided competitions the ARL went for a 12 team competition with a top 7 finals series. The Knights finished second behind the might of the competition Manly with 29 points despite missing Andrew Johns for half the season. Parramatta finished 3rd making their first finals series since winning the premiership since 1986, after winning 11 straight games at one point in the season.
Teams
Parramatta Eels
1: Paul Carige
2: Ian Herron
3: Karl Lovell
4: Nathan Barnes
5: Eparama Navale
6: Jason Bell
7: John Simon
8: Dean Pay (Captain)
9: Aaron Raper
10: Justin Morgan
11: Jason Smith
12: Jarrod McCracken
13: Jim Dymock
14: Troy Campbell
15: Brett Horsenell
16: Russel Wyer
17: Darren Pettet
Coach: Brian Smith
Newcastle Knights
1: Robbie O'Davis
2: Darren Albert
3: Matt Gidley
4: Owen Craigie
5: Adam McDougall
6: Matthew Johns
7: Andrew Johns
8: Paul Harragon (Captain)
9: Brett Clements
10: Tony Butterfield
11: Bill Peden
12: Adam Muir
13: Mark Glanville
14: Wayne Richards
15: Troy Fletcher
16: Brett Grogan
17: Mark Hughes
Coach: Malcom Reilly
The game
It's great that despite the war raging of the field the quality on the field was as good as ever. A day after the Roosters pulled of a remarkable win in a 100 minute battle with the Bears the previous day, Newcastle carried their momenteum into the finals and continued their 4 game winning streak coming from 18 points behind to beat Parramatta after having players go down injured.
Parramatta fired out of the blocks punishing Newcastle for their terrible start to the game. Nathan Barnes, Jason Bell and Ian Herron scored tries and with Herron kicking 3 goals Parra were 18 points in front. Newcastle started to get some drive and they made it count after having no possession for the first 20 minutes. Running the ball on the last and taking some risks M.Johns put Adam McDougall over for his first try and combined well on the inside with Peden who put Muir over under the posts and after another try to McDougall the Knights were only 2 points behind. The Knights then suffered a huge blow as O'Davis suffered a brutal headknock when attempting to spot a try for Parra on the stroke of halftime which meant he wouldn't be back for the second half.
In an arm wrestle of a second half both sides couldn't take control but Herron extended Parramatta's lead to 4 points with a goal. In the 55th minute the game was tied up as Andrew Johns scored a brilliant individual try, running for 30 meters and beating 5 Parramatta defenders but his injuries returned as he damaged his ribs when going over to score. The Knights now were pumped with confidence and after a goal by Craigie a couple of minutes later that put Newcastle in front for the first time a controversial decision to give Grogan a try when the replays showed he didn't ground it put the Knights 8 points clear. A buffer they held on to, to win 28-20 to kick start their finals campaign in the right way.
Match Summary
High quality finals battle. Great tries, comeback from nowhere, strong individual performances, controversy, good story to tell afterwards. The game had everything and is everything a finals game should be. Crowds really tuned out during 1997 but those who showed up really got their moneys worth. Parramatta started strongly but after that they just couldn't finish the Knights off and some big plays from Matthew Johns and some luck went their way and they finished with a deserving victory.
How well did Andrew Johns play?
Apart from that great individual effort that got the scores tied up Johns was pretty loose in this game and was obviously not at 100% which really impacted him. Johns was picked for NSW in 1997 on the back of 30 minutes of game time and was reportedly going to die if he played in the Grand Final, he played with broken ribs, ankle injuries and punctured lungs. He still had an impact on the game but there were other players on his team that were better. Came up with some good kicks, only had 1 strong run which was the try and came up with some good tackles. Not great but not bad.
Newcastle Knights 28: 2 tries by Adam McDougall and tries by Adam Muir, Andrew Johns and Brett Grogan, 4 goals by Matthew Johns
Parramatta Eels 20: Tries by Jason Bell, Nathan Barnes and Ian Herron, 4 goals by Ian Herron
Notes
- It seems like the 1997 ARL finals series was great to watch from start to finish. There were some great games throughout that finals series which really showed just how great a game Rugby League is. The 1997 Grand Final is imo the greatest Grand Final in history and it was a high quality game from start to finish but the rest of the finals sounds like it was awesome to watch. The Roosters and Bears played a 100 minute battle, this Knights game, Paul Harragon V Mark Carroll, both preliminary finals went right down to the wire (Newcastle beat Bears 17-12 and Manly beat Roosters 17-16) and the of course the magnificent grand final, the Gold Coast also made their only finals appearance in 1997. The Super League season on the other hand and it's finals seem pretty farcical, tbh the Super League season looks like a real failure and i have heard it wasn't that good.
- It was a very bruising encounter. Robbie O'Davis, Matt Gidley and Andrew Johns suffered injuries whilst for Parramatta Jason Bell, Dean Pay, Paul Carige and Ian Herron were forced off.
- There was some very controversial referring decisions. Bell dropped the ball when attempting to ground the ball and the Grogan try was pathetic as it was obvious on replay that he didn't ground the ball or get near out.
- Darren Albert is famous for his try in the 1997 Grand Final but he did some very good things throughout that finals series for the Knights. He came up with some desperate try savers in this game, came up with a great tackle on Matt Seers in their game against Norths and in the Grand Final he came up with some very good plays in that second half that got them out of trouble. He deserves a bit more credit for their premiership.
- Aaron Raper looks like a 1999 eminem