NBA Playoffs

[Jeba]

Comparing Bryant to Jordan is like comparing Stuart Kelly to Darren Lockyer. OK, maybe not that drastic but Bryant still isn't fit to tie Jordan's shoes.

 

[fenomeno]

Lakers can win it, but i'm not overly confident, they've played well on the road.

Kobe has a chance to do what Jordan did before him, win the MVP, the championship and a olympics gold medal in the same year, he deserves it, he's as good as Jordan anyway.

No way dude! Kobe is very good but he isn't Jordan. Jordan won 6 rings and 6 finals MVP's he was god on the court and always produced the goods when his team needed it, he was a far superior defensive player as well. He also never had anyone as dominant as Shaq to help him win championships either (as good as Pippen and Rodman were).

Career stats:
Jordan - 6.2 RPG, 5.3 APG, 2.35 SPG, 30.1 PPG
Bryant - 5.3 RPG, 4.6 APG, 1.5 SPG, 25.0 PPG

Stats don't lie here either Jordan beats him in all the key areas.

No point comparing stats, Comparing rings? LOL, If we are to go by rings, Bill Russell must be the greatest player ever, have you heard of him?

Jordan played in a different era where even the rules were different, who they favoured, i won't say, Jordan came before Kobe, so he'll always be considered the greatest, no matter what Kobe does. But i think when Kobe finishes up, he will be looked at as someone who was as good as MJ.

Just look at the team Jordan had, you are obviously underrating Pippen and Rodman, its an embarassment to even bother comparing players MJ played with and ones Kobe is playing with now, Odom? Gasol? I like them, but lets not even bother comparing them to MJ's team mates, if Kobe had players like that in his team, his numbers would be even better. Not to worry though, its quite possible Kobe will dominate for another 5 years, this Lakers team should be even better next year with Bynum.

Good to see people hate Kobe though, just shows how good he really is.

 

[The Brizz]

MJ played in a side with little to no inside players, Longley was reasonable at best and Horace Grant was much the same. Pippen was superb and helped a lot at both ends and Rodman was only really helpful at one end of the court. Kobe won 3 titles with Shaq a guy known as basically the most dominant player since Wilt he was a huge part of those title and far more influential than anyone Jordan had. What Kobe has done this year is extraordinary I have great respect for what he is achieving but it is no bigger feat than Jordan building a dynasty as a young player almost single handedly (he did have a great coach, same as Kobe lol). And yes I have heard of Russell he won 11 rings which is amazing but he was blessed with almost invincible teams which he didn't necessarily carry like either MJ or Kobe do. The stats do play a huge part here also the rules are not different the game is the same it just shows in the 48 minutes per match MJ produced more and add to that the fact MJ was a far better defender was once defensive player of the year and 9 times on the defensive first team along with his 6 finals and 5 season mvp awards his stats and records do not lie he is/was the greatest.

 

[fenomeno]

MJ played in a side with little to no inside players, Longley was reasonable at best and Horace Grant was much the same. Pippen was superb and helped a lot at both ends and Rodman was only really helpful at one end of the court. Kobe won 3 titles with Shaq a guy known as basically the most dominant player since Wilt he was a huge part of those title and far more influential than anyone Jordan had. What Kobe has done this year is extraordinary I have great respect for what he is achieving but it is no bigger feat than Jordan building a dynasty as a young player almost single handedly (he did have a great coach, same as Kobe lol). And yes I have heard of Russell he won 11 rings which is amazing but he was blessed with almost invincible teams which he didn't necessarily carry like either MJ or Kobe do. The stats do play a huge part here also the rules are not different the game is the same it just shows in the 48 minutes per match MJ produced more and add to that the fact MJ was a far better defender was once defensive player of the year and 9 times on the defensive first team along with his 6 finals and 5 season mvp awards his stats and records do not lie he is/was the greatest.

I agree with most of the stuff you say, but you gotta take into account that Kobe still has a lot of time to achieve a lot more, so don't have to compare things like finals and mvp awards, i think everyone knows that by now, Kobe deserved to have 3 mvp's to his name, but i won't worry about that, since he hasn't got them. But he's got time on his side, he's already got 3 rings, might get a 4th this year, that leaves him with another good 5 chances to win more.

Having one of the best rebounders in history in Rodman helps immensely. Pippen was so good that when Jordan retired for the first time, Pippen won MVP, He also had the best 3 point shooter in history in Steve Kerr. The Bulls team in 95 is said by many to be one of the best teams ever. I just can't agree that Shaq was far more influential then some of MJ's team mates.

Yes Jordan was a great defender, better then Kobe, but Kobe is a brilliant defender himself, and Phil Jackson has said in his opinion, Kobe's a better ball handler and shooter then MJ so yeah.

By the time Kobe retires, not many would hesitate to say he was as good as Jordan.

 

[Kan Huang]

I just don't think you could compare the two. Put Kobe during the playing days of Jordan and I dare say he may have been more dominant with the level of competitiveness and professionalism in the modern NBA and who knows how Jordan would've done if put into 2008. Incomparable!

 

[fenomeno]

I just don't think you could compare the two. Put Kobe during the playing days of Jordan and I dare say he may have been more dominant with the level of competitiveness and professionalism in the modern NBA and who knows how Jordan would've done if put into 2008. Incomparable!

Exactly right, Kobe and Jordan are similar in terms of phyical ability, infact, i think Jordan is better physically, but still, they are comparable, Jordan was one of a kind in his era in terms of sheer physical talent, while there are a few players with the physical ability of Kobe these days.

 

[Kan Huang]

Put in LBJ and Wade who are the clear cut outstanding talents of the NBA with plenty more included and the talent pool just continues to grow in the NBA. You would never have got a draft class like the one in 2003 or 2007 back in the Jordan playing days.

 

[The Brizz]

1984 Draft, thats as good as any modern day drafts tbh.
1 Hakeem Olajuwon (C)
3 Michael Jordan (SG)
4 Sam Perkins (PF/C)
5 Charles Barkley (PF)
7 Alvin Robertson (SG)
9 Otis Thorpe (PF)
11 Kevin Willis (PF/C)
16 John Stockton (PG)

 

[Kan Huang]

True but I don't think it was never heavy on talent consistently like we're seeing now. This year's draft class is looking the goods with plenty of athletic forwards in the first round and several potential future star point guards.

 

[The Brizz]

True but I don't think it was never heavy on talent consistently like we're seeing now. This year's draft class is looking the goods with plenty of athletic forwards in the first round and several potential future star point guards.

Yeah I heard Bulls will trade Hinrich to make room for one of them (name escapes me now), you are right though outside of that 84 draft few can come close to the consistency through the draft like some of those recent ones can boast.

 

[Kan Huang]

I'm suspecting you mean Derrick Rose. Pure athletics and solidly built for a point guard. Shades of Deron Williams all over him and with a great attitude from what I've heard! Same goes for Beasley who even rocked up an hour early to practice shooting hoops at the Milk House before the scouts arrived to seek potential draft picks.

 

[Guest]

Bulls just took Rose first overall.