Agree fully, NSW has us covered in nearly every position and some by a country mile, and it came down to a buzzer beater in the decider for NSW to win.I've said this numerous times, I don't think his recent Origin record gets enough recognition. He had us up to our eyeballs in that 2019 series despite NSW having a vastly superior side with better players in basically every single position.
We had guys like Norman, Glasby and Ethan Lowe who wouldn't even make a fourth or fifth string NSW side and yet Kevvie had them playing for us and competing hard right into the last few minutes of the series. To me that doesn't seem to get anywhere near the recognition it genuinely deserves.
well it keeps getting pointed out to me that he did well in his first season at Catalans before his squad fell off a cliff in his second season in charge. so he must have done something to see that dramatic a change in their fortunes.
p.s. i'm not the only one concerned about his performance in his ONLY first grade head coaching role to date ... only time will tell if those concerns were justified or not.
I'm in broad agreement here and wish Gentle the best, but given the absolute horrowshow we've been since putting Pies in charge I'd say any improvement in our last few games is just as likely to be from not having the Harvard huckster around than from anything Gentle did.Yeah sure, it's a cool saying and sounds good on the internet, but it isn't really true, nor is it any use to anyone who actually watched us play over the last 6 weeks and could see the shift in attitude and application that came about once Gentle was placed in charge.
Yeah sure, it's a cool saying and sounds good on the internet, but it isn't really true, nor is it any use to anyone who actually watched us play over the last 6 weeks and could see the shift in attitude and application that came about once Gentle was placed in charge.
He may not have won games, but I'd suggest that when you remove the emotion and look at things a bit more rationally, some of the team lists he was basically forced to send out with our injury ravaged roster, not even Craig Bellamy could probably have gotten results that were much better.
He was served up a turd sandwich of a playing roster that had been mentally demoralised for those last 6 weeks and personally I feel he deserves some credit for his willingness to at least give it a decent chew.
I didn't see you respond this time, but you chose to respond to a singular part of his argument and that's pretty disappointing. Still, it's nice of you to finally respond to someone arguing against your points. Baby steps.
Since that Catalans season, what has he be doing? Learning from those that many would say are the absolute best coaches the game has ever seen. So here's his resume.
Assistant to Wayne Bennett
One win away from the GF with the Catalans Dragons
Assistant to Craig Bellamy
Halves coach under Wayne Bennett
Assistant to Wayne Bennett
Queensland State of Origin coach
I'll be damned if I am going to judge him based on a singular season that occurred over a decade ago in a half assed competition where players go to waste time and earn some cash before they retire, in a team that had players who didn't even speak English. The imports they had were Casey McGuire (30), Brent Sherwin (32), Steve Bell (34), Dallas Johnson (28), Chris Walker (30), Adam Mogg (33), Dane Carlaw (30) and Clint Greenshields (28). Not terrible but also if we remember back to how shit all of them were at the back end of their careers, and the fact that most of them played less than half of the games for them that season you can see why they did so terribly. Also the rest of the team was filled with nobodies and the other clubs had pretty impressive rosters that year. Context is nice, we can't just say 37% and be done with it. Quite frankly, the fact he won 37% of games with the team he had is pretty impressive.
Everyone is complaining about the two coaches we had on offer... but get used to it when you come last and underperform you no longer have the privilege of attracting the best coaches and players... the fact that we had a premiership winning coach, and a beloved old boy that has been under the best coaches and coached the best players ever to play our game whilst having fairly decent success doing so as our frontrunners is astounding... like the bulldogs had minimal options and ended up with a coach that coached a decent side to many underwhelming performances... like Trent Barrett’s name would not have popped up once in our discussions if he was still available
I think it comes down to just how highly we value Coaches at Origin level.I reckon the message of .....give credit where it's due, is fair enough in this case.
However.....it shouldn't be over exaggerated either. The results and performances since he "took over" were as much to do with the players themselves than anything the "coach" said.
Here we have it folks - this is the first instance of Kevolution I can find on the forum, and of course it's from no one other than FIH!
Love your work @FaithinHook!
We will get beaten by a mixture, occasional solid smackings, more honourable defeats and some good wins. The only focus is regaining the strongest culture. Sure, win loss will be considered after 12 months but the club and KW will want to cut out the unaligned, the players not putting in.I'd even give a pass for missing the 8 if we actually compete every week but mostly have less than 10 point losses.
If we still drop our bundle and get smashed anytime we give up more than 6 points, I'll have serious concerns about him too. I do agree we have the cattle to make the 8 but definitely not to challenge seriously.