No More Golden Point In Finals?

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Up to 15 of the NRL's 16 coaches are believed to support scrapping golden point in finals and the grand final but there are concerns the introduction of "golden try" would encourage teams to infringe to stop opponents scoring as a penalty goal would be worthless.

A decision on the future of golden point will be decided at a meeting of the NRL competition committee next month but there appears to be an overwhelming view that it is an unfair way to decide a premiership in the wake of the North Queensland's 17-16 grand final triumph over Brisbane last year.

Broncos coach Wayne Bennett has been an outspoken opponent of golden point since its introduction in 2004 but Fairfax Media understands only Cowboys mentor Paul Green was strongly in favour of retaining the rule at last November's NRL coaches conference.

A recommendation from that meeting has resulted in the issue being one of the main items on the agenda when the 11-person competition committee gathers on May 31 to consider the re-introduction of extra time, golden try or adopting the NFL overtime policy in which a team is given a set of possession to respond if their opposition kick a field goal.

The NHL model of reducing the number of players on the field during extra time was rejected as an option at the coaches conference and won't be considered by the competition committee, which includes NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg, ARLC chairman John Grant, referees boss Tony Archer and Sydney Roosters coach Trent Robinson and South Sydney's Michael Maguire as representatives of the 16 NRL coaches.

Maguire told reporters on Thursday he believes golden point should be scrapped for all finals.

"I haven't spoken to Todd and those guys on the committee but, around the finals, I do agree with what a lot of the coaches are saying," Maguire said. "It is a game you want to play out to work out who wins rather than having it determined by that one point."

However, those calling for "golden try" appear to have overlooked the likelihood that the defending team would be willing to concede penalties rather than a try in the knowledge that their opposition can't win with a field goal or penalty goal.

There are also player welfare concerns over playing lengthy extra time periods and the possibility that a team involved in a "golden try" game would be disadvantaged if they had a short turn around before their next finals match against a side whose game ended after 80 minutes.

Former Cronulla, Penrith and South Sydney coach John Lang, who is a member of the competition committee, said he would go into the meeting with an open mind but questioned the merits of "golden try".

"The first thing that springs to my mind is that you could give penalties away as much as you like while you are defending your line because it is pointless kicking a penalty goal," Lang said.

"But my attitude will be to listen to what everyone says before forming an opinion. There is always plenty of debate before a consensus is reached and it is pretty well tested before a change is made.

"I think changes have been gradually made that have improved the game like the zero tackle from a 20 metre tap if you kick the ball dead. That has had a very significant effect on the way the game is played, particularly aligned with the fact that they have stopped sides slowing the tackle down as much."

Other members of the competition committee include former Australian captain Darren Lockyer, RLPA president Clint Newton, Kangaroos captain Cameron Smith and Jillaroos captain Steph Hancock.


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Personally I think golden point to decide a final or grand final should be scrapped in favour of a new system where the first team to lead by 4 points wins the game. This would encourage teams to go for the try but discourage repeated penalties as 2 penalty goals would win the match. No one wants to see a penalty goal win a grand final and after last year it didn't do the game justice that it was decided by one mistake and a field goal. It would be similar to the final set in tennis where there is no tie breaker and play continues until there is a clear winner of 2 or more games and I believe would be a fairer way to determine the best team than golden point


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No Golden Point.

5 minutes each way. Whoever has the highest score at the end of the 10 minutes, wins. If the scores are still level, keep going.

But I imagine the players would kick up a stink about that. "It's too much football to play."
 
Interesting article nathano, I didn't realise there was such interest in it from any coach besides Wayne.

Just have extra time IMO. Not golden-anything, just a fixed 10 or 20 minutes. Both teams will get an opportunity to kick at least one goal, and scoring a try puts you in a very strong position.

If it's still drawn after that, then I don't know. Half a trophy for each team?


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I wonder why Paul Green was the only coach to want to keep golden point for finals
 
I didn't mind one I heard earlier in the week.

80 minutes regulation
10 minutes extra time (5 minutes each way)

If it's still a draw after that point, then you played 10 minutes of golden point.
 
No team should have to be dealt a GP loss in a GF. I wouldn't wish it on any other club. Except the Raiders.
 
No team should have to be dealt a GP loss in a GF. I wouldn't wish it on any other club. Except the Raiders.

After last year and the shit we've been given, I would love every other team to go through it.
 
Can we expect Paul Green to have a whinge if he doesn't get his way over the other 15 coaches?
 
Can we expect Paul Green to have a whinge if he doesn't get his way over the other 15 coaches?

Yes. The bloke just loves whinging. I think the only reason he opposes it is because he knows everyone else is for it.

He is the kind of sad bastard that would whinge if he won the lottery.
 
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Learned behaviour. He's bitched and moaned and subsequently the Cowboys have been given special treatment, why would he stop now?
 
What special treatment?

I'm sure there would be no paperwork trail or official memo, but it was pretty obvious that no contentious calls were allowed to go against the Cowboys, lest they be "unfairly" bundled out of premiership contention.

And Thurston being protected.
 
I'm sure there would be no paperwork trail or official memo, but it was pretty obvious that no contentious calls were allowed to go against the Cowboys, lest they be "unfairly" bundled out of premiership contention.

And Thurston being protected.

Examples?
 
Examples?

Didn't you watch his press conference this year when we beat them in golden point?
Sour grapes if I have ever saw them, him and Thurston were having a good old whinge about how we was robbed
 
My local comp, group 11, has 5 minutes each way to decide finals games. Then after that its golden point.
 
My local comp, group 11, has 5 minutes each way to decide finals games. Then after that its golden point.

I wish I was surprised that your local group 11 comp and a smarter, fairer system than the NRL. It would be a great feeling for this revelation to be a shock.
 

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