NRL 2025 Pre-Season Thread

Alright back at it after a break, let's look at the Warriors Round 1 opponents the Canberra Raiders:

Canberra Raiders 2025
1. Kaeo Weekes
2. Albert Hopoate/Savelio Tamale
3. Matt Timoko
4. Seb Kris
5. Xavier Savage
6. Ethan Strange
7. Jamal Fogarty
8. Josh Papalii
9. Danny Levi/Tom Starling
10. Joseph Tapine
11. Hudson Young
12. Zac Hosking
13. Morgan Smithies

14. Tom Starling/Danny Levi
15. Ata Mariota
16. Corey Hursburgh
17. Matty Nicholson

They're rarely on anybody's radar and yet the Raiders always find a way to put themselves in the finals mix. Last year they were dealt a hand that should have seen them anchored on the bottom of the ladder alongside the Tigers and the Eels. Yet, they persevered and finished a respectable 9th.

What made them so competitive was their pack. They have a real workman like pack that aren't afraid to get down in the trenches and can get over the top of their opposition. At the forefront is Joseph Tapine, one of the best forwards in the competition and is the total package with ball in hand. He has the skills, the mobility and the stamina to match it with anybody.

Alongside him is the ever pugnacious Hudson Young. Another Newcastle junior who just represents everything his coach is looking for in a footballer. He's the type of player who never dies wondering and isn't afraid to colour outside the lines to get the desired result.

Again I invite my ESL experts @Wolfie, @Sproj and @Fitzy to talk about Matty Nicholson. I just presume he's Elliott Whitehead/John Bateman 3.0 and he'll be another strong addition to the pack?

It's a really solid pack of forwards and there's plenty of depth there as well with Emre Guler, Trey Mooney, Pasami Saulo in the mix alongside a couple of young guns in Myles Martin & Vena Patuki-Case.

With that pack, the Raiders will find themselves in plenty of contests, it's just a matter of whether they can convert their opportunities when they present themselves. There were some real positive signs on that front this year with the emergence of Ethan Strange, Xavier Savage and Kaeo Weekes.

Strange in particular proved a real handful down that left-side for the Raiders and I'd expect the Raiders to build their sets around that formation. If that doesn't deliver, then they'll turn to Weekes to target that right middle third and if all else fails turn to Savage to see what he can come up with.

I'd also expect to see Ethan Sanders and Chevy Stewart at some point through out the season. They're two of the more exciting prospects coming through and they'll get their opportunity to make their mark. Of the two, Stewart has the best chance to make the position his own since Fogarty for all intents and purposes should have the halfback spot nailed down, but if Sanders delivers it would be a massive boon for the Raiders.

Still, that's a lot of water under the bridge and both Strange and Weekes will need to prove themselves if they're a chance of winning the premiership. My other concerns is their outside backs and dummy half. It's not the strongest backline and while they have an exciting prospect in Savelio Tamale coming in it remains to be seen what he can do.

As far as the dummy half, it's no secret they've struggled since losing Josh Hodgson and the Raiders of 2016 and 2019 enjoyed a lot of success out of what their dummy half was able to create. Both Levi and Starling can trouble the opposition with their running games but they just seem to lack that class a quality dummy half brings.

I can't see them seriously challenging this year. I'd expect them to finish anywhere between 7th and 13th but likely more outside the 8 than in. I expect to see a few players develop and put themselves in the Origin conversation for 2026 and then they'll make a serious charge, especially once they get their spine sorted.
 
Alright back at it after a break, let's look at the Warriors Round 1 opponents the Canberra Raiders:

Canberra Raiders 2025
1. Kaeo Weekes
2. Albert Hopoate/Savelio Tamale
3. Matt Timoko
4. Seb Kris
5. Xavier Savage
6. Ethan Strange
7. Jamal Fogarty
8. Josh Papalii
9. Danny Levi/Tom Starling
10. Joseph Tapine
11. Hudson Young
12. Zac Hosking
13. Morgan Smithies

14. Tom Starling/Danny Levi
15. Ata Mariota
16. Corey Hursburgh
17. Matty Nicholson

They're rarely on anybody's radar and yet the Raiders always find a way to put themselves in the finals mix. Last year they were dealt a hand that should have seen them anchored on the bottom of the ladder alongside the Tigers and the Eels. Yet, they persevered and finished a respectable 9th.

What made them so competitive was their pack. They have a real workman like pack that aren't afraid to get down in the trenches and can get over the top of their opposition. At the forefront is Joseph Tapine, one of the best forwards in the competition and is the total package with ball in hand. He has the skills, the mobility and the stamina to match it with anybody.

Alongside him is the ever pugnacious Hudson Young. Another Newcastle junior who just represents everything his coach is looking for in a footballer. He's the type of player who never dies wondering and isn't afraid to colour outside the lines to get the desired result.

Again I invite my ESL experts @Wolfie, @Sproj and @Fitzy to talk about Matty Nicholson. I just presume he's Elliott Whitehead/John Bateman 3.0 and he'll be another strong addition to the pack?

It's a really solid pack of forwards and there's plenty of depth there as well with Emre Guler, Trey Mooney, Pasami Saulo in the mix alongside a couple of young guns in Myles Martin & Vena Patuki-Case.

With that pack, the Raiders will find themselves in plenty of contests, it's just a matter of whether they can convert their opportunities when they present themselves. There were some real positive signs on that front this year with the emergence of Ethan Strange, Xavier Savage and Kaeo Weekes.

Strange in particular proved a real handful down that left-side for the Raiders and I'd expect the Raiders to build their sets around that formation. If that doesn't deliver, then they'll turn to Weekes to target that right middle third and if all else fails turn to Savage to see what he can come up with.

I'd also expect to see Ethan Sanders and Chevy Stewart at some point through out the season. They're two of the more exciting prospects coming through and they'll get their opportunity to make their mark. Of the two, Stewart has the best chance to make the position his own since Fogarty for all intents and purposes should have the halfback spot nailed down, but if Sanders delivers it would be a massive boon for the Raiders.

Still, that's a lot of water under the bridge and both Strange and Weekes will need to prove themselves if they're a chance of winning the premiership. My other concerns is their outside backs and dummy half. It's not the strongest backline and while they have an exciting prospect in Savelio Tamale coming in it remains to be seen what he can do.

As far as the dummy half, it's no secret they've struggled since losing Josh Hodgson and the Raiders of 2016 and 2019 enjoyed a lot of success out of what their dummy half was able to create. Both Levi and Starling can trouble the opposition with their running games but they just seem to lack that class a quality dummy half brings.

I can't see them seriously challenging this year. I'd expect them to finish anywhere between 7th and 13th but likely more outside the 8 than in. I expect to see a few players develop and put themselves in the Origin conversation for 2026 and then they'll make a serious charge, especially once they get their spine sorted.
I was actually recommending we grab him, didn't realise he had signed there until a couple of months ago.

Really skilful back rower, excellent passer and his defence is brilliant. Hes pretty fast as well. Probably needs fill out a bit for the NRL.
 
I was actually recommending we grab him, didn't realise he had signed there until a couple of months ago.

Really skilful back rower, excellent passer and his defence is brilliant. Hes pretty fast as well. Probably needs fill out a bit for the NRL.

Yeah I don’t think he’s ready but Stuart has a pretty good track record with English backrowers. I don’t think he’ll hit the ground running though either.
 
Alright back at it after a break, let's look at the Warriors Round 1 opponents the Canberra Raiders:

Canberra Raiders 2025
1. Kaeo Weekes
2. Albert Hopoate/Savelio Tamale
3. Matt Timoko
4. Seb Kris
5. Xavier Savage
6. Ethan Strange
7. Jamal Fogarty
8. Josh Papalii
9. Danny Levi/Tom Starling
10. Joseph Tapine
11. Hudson Young
12. Zac Hosking
13. Morgan Smithies

14. Tom Starling/Danny Levi
15. Ata Mariota
16. Corey Hursburgh
17. Matty Nicholson

They're rarely on anybody's radar and yet the Raiders always find a way to put themselves in the finals mix. Last year they were dealt a hand that should have seen them anchored on the bottom of the ladder alongside the Tigers and the Eels. Yet, they persevered and finished a respectable 9th.

What made them so competitive was their pack. They have a real workman like pack that aren't afraid to get down in the trenches and can get over the top of their opposition. At the forefront is Joseph Tapine, one of the best forwards in the competition and is the total package with ball in hand. He has the skills, the mobility and the stamina to match it with anybody.

Alongside him is the ever pugnacious Hudson Young. Another Newcastle junior who just represents everything his coach is looking for in a footballer. He's the type of player who never dies wondering and isn't afraid to colour outside the lines to get the desired result.

Again I invite my ESL experts @Wolfie, @Sproj and @Fitzy to talk about Matty Nicholson. I just presume he's Elliott Whitehead/John Bateman 3.0 and he'll be another strong addition to the pack?

It's a really solid pack of forwards and there's plenty of depth there as well with Emre Guler, Trey Mooney, Pasami Saulo in the mix alongside a couple of young guns in Myles Martin & Vena Patuki-Case.

With that pack, the Raiders will find themselves in plenty of contests, it's just a matter of whether they can convert their opportunities when they present themselves. There were some real positive signs on that front this year with the emergence of Ethan Strange, Xavier Savage and Kaeo Weekes.

Strange in particular proved a real handful down that left-side for the Raiders and I'd expect the Raiders to build their sets around that formation. If that doesn't deliver, then they'll turn to Weekes to target that right middle third and if all else fails turn to Savage to see what he can come up with.

I'd also expect to see Ethan Sanders and Chevy Stewart at some point through out the season. They're two of the more exciting prospects coming through and they'll get their opportunity to make their mark. Of the two, Stewart has the best chance to make the position his own since Fogarty for all intents and purposes should have the halfback spot nailed down, but if Sanders delivers it would be a massive boon for the Raiders.

Still, that's a lot of water under the bridge and both Strange and Weekes will need to prove themselves if they're a chance of winning the premiership. My other concerns is their outside backs and dummy half. It's not the strongest backline and while they have an exciting prospect in Savelio Tamale coming in it remains to be seen what he can do.

As far as the dummy half, it's no secret they've struggled since losing Josh Hodgson and the Raiders of 2016 and 2019 enjoyed a lot of success out of what their dummy half was able to create. Both Levi and Starling can trouble the opposition with their running games but they just seem to lack that class a quality dummy half brings.

I can't see them seriously challenging this year. I'd expect them to finish anywhere between 7th and 13th but likely more outside the 8 than in. I expect to see a few players develop and put themselves in the Origin conversation for 2026 and then they'll make a serious charge, especially once they get their spine sorted.

It feels a bit like what Richmond have done in the AFL with loading up on draft picks. Canberra seem to have loaded up on the kids but while doing that, have retained a strong side to show them the way.

I doubt they challenge this year but the future looks pretty promising for them if the kids can deliver on the potential and that is always an if. I think there might be quite a bit of second year syndrome in their youngsters this year though, just a feeling.
 
Alright back at it after a break, let's look at the Warriors Round 1 opponents the Canberra Raiders:

Canberra Raiders 2025
1. Kaeo Weekes
2. Albert Hopoate/Savelio Tamale
3. Matt Timoko
4. Seb Kris
5. Xavier Savage
6. Ethan Strange
7. Jamal Fogarty
8. Josh Papalii
9. Danny Levi/Tom Starling
10. Joseph Tapine
11. Hudson Young
12. Zac Hosking
13. Morgan Smithies

14. Tom Starling/Danny Levi
15. Ata Mariota
16. Corey Hursburgh
17. Matty Nicholson

They're rarely on anybody's radar and yet the Raiders always find a way to put themselves in the finals mix. Last year they were dealt a hand that should have seen them anchored on the bottom of the ladder alongside the Tigers and the Eels. Yet, they persevered and finished a respectable 9th.

What made them so competitive was their pack. They have a real workman like pack that aren't afraid to get down in the trenches and can get over the top of their opposition. At the forefront is Joseph Tapine, one of the best forwards in the competition and is the total package with ball in hand. He has the skills, the mobility and the stamina to match it with anybody.

Alongside him is the ever pugnacious Hudson Young. Another Newcastle junior who just represents everything his coach is looking for in a footballer. He's the type of player who never dies wondering and isn't afraid to colour outside the lines to get the desired result.

Again I invite my ESL experts @Wolfie, @Sproj and @Fitzy to talk about Matty Nicholson. I just presume he's Elliott Whitehead/John Bateman 3.0 and he'll be another strong addition to the pack?

It's a really solid pack of forwards and there's plenty of depth there as well with Emre Guler, Trey Mooney, Pasami Saulo in the mix alongside a couple of young guns in Myles Martin & Vena Patuki-Case.

With that pack, the Raiders will find themselves in plenty of contests, it's just a matter of whether they can convert their opportunities when they present themselves. There were some real positive signs on that front this year with the emergence of Ethan Strange, Xavier Savage and Kaeo Weekes.

Strange in particular proved a real handful down that left-side for the Raiders and I'd expect the Raiders to build their sets around that formation. If that doesn't deliver, then they'll turn to Weekes to target that right middle third and if all else fails turn to Savage to see what he can come up with.

I'd also expect to see Ethan Sanders and Chevy Stewart at some point through out the season. They're two of the more exciting prospects coming through and they'll get their opportunity to make their mark. Of the two, Stewart has the best chance to make the position his own since Fogarty for all intents and purposes should have the halfback spot nailed down, but if Sanders delivers it would be a massive boon for the Raiders.

Still, that's a lot of water under the bridge and both Strange and Weekes will need to prove themselves if they're a chance of winning the premiership. My other concerns is their outside backs and dummy half. It's not the strongest backline and while they have an exciting prospect in Savelio Tamale coming in it remains to be seen what he can do.

As far as the dummy half, it's no secret they've struggled since losing Josh Hodgson and the Raiders of 2016 and 2019 enjoyed a lot of success out of what their dummy half was able to create. Both Levi and Starling can trouble the opposition with their running games but they just seem to lack that class a quality dummy half brings.

I can't see them seriously challenging this year. I'd expect them to finish anywhere between 7th and 13th but likely more outside the 8 than in. I expect to see a few players develop and put themselves in the Origin conversation for 2026 and then they'll make a serious charge, especially once they get their spine sorted.

Do you see anywhere for Pattie at hooker? I think he's a chance.
 
Do you see anywhere for Pattie at hooker? I think he's a chance.
There's definitely an opportunity there if Pattie is good enough. Admittedly I haven't watched Pattie play, I'm just aware that he was too good for Jersey Flegg and spent the second half of the season playing up a level.

What type of player is he?
 
There's definitely an opportunity there if Pattie is good enough. Admittedly I haven't watched Pattie play, I'm just aware that he was too good for Jersey Flegg and spent the second half of the season playing up a level.

What type of player is he?

Reminds me of Parcell. I think Stuart will like that he kicks and creates chances from dummy half. Fits the mould of the young Raiders.
 

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