NRL Player Movements & Rumours

[Clintos]

it really depends what is in the licencing agreement with the clubs... the NRL may have a clause in there to protect themselves, saying something along the lines of:

"the NRL reserve the right to refuse the registration of any player contract, if deemed that said player is not a fit and proper person to participate in the NRL competition"

There could well be something in there - but that still leaves them open for to lawsuit. They would have to argue his statements, which for all intents and purposes he is allowed to make under freedom of speech, would make him improper.

That's a dangerous stance to take because it would be tiptoeing the line of religious discrimination given that their chief reasoning would be that he would likely be potentially damaging to the reputation/earnings of the game - which would be caused by his comments that he's free to make. Simply 'bringing the game into disrepute' won't cover it IMO.

 

[Super Freak]

Bronson Xerri knocked back a 5 year $500k per year extension.

These kids are delusional.

 

[Super Freak]

I don’t think the NRL could refuse to register Folau based on his religion and beliefs however I am pretty sure they can refuse to register based on what he was saying on social media and how damaging that could potentially be.

 

[Unbreakable]

Bronson Xerri knocked back a 5 year $500k per year extension.

These kids are delusional.

You say that.. but Adam Doueihi just reportedly signed with the Tigers on a 4 year, $2.5m deal and he's not half as talented as Xerri, not to mention coming off an ACL at the end of 2018 and being a couple of years older.

 

[something]

Yeah Xerri will be playing rep soon I’d be going 3 @ 600 minimum if I were him.

 

[Kooly87]

You say that.. but Adam Doueihi just reportedly signed with the Tigers on a 4 year, $2.5m deal and he's not half as talented as Xerri, not to mention coming off an ACL at the end of 2018 and being a couple of years older.

I thought the Douehi deal was $2 million over 4 years.

The extra 500k isn't great if that's true, but I still don't think that will prove to be bad value for the Tigers.

He's from all reports a great kid and he's certainly extremely versatile. Granted, he probably isn't going to be a match winner too regularly, but he is a very competent Fullback and Halfback and he can also play in the Centres or on the Wing pretty well too.

Over a 26 Round season those sort of guys can often be just as critical to your chances as superstar players can be, simply because he can plug any gap that injuries throw up and can do so with minimal disruption to the side.

I know Premierships are usually won by star players in October, but we've seen plenty of examples over the years of teams who go deep into the finals that only managed to get to the finals in the first place because of the quality of their depth and versatility back in Round 15 or Round 19 etc that helped get them over the line with a badly needed two points.

I honestly think Douehi can be that guy for the Tigers just like he was for Souths.

 

[mrslong]

I wish people would get as outraged about perpetrators of domestic violence, drink driving, and child abusers as they do about Israel Folau's political views.

 

[Huge]

I wish people would get as outraged about perpetrators of domestic violence, drink driving, and child abusers as they do about Israel Folau's political views.

I understand your position. It's definitely a balance. The thing with balance is weight. It's how much weight we give things that's important I believe. In a dv situation there may be somewhere between 3 or 4 people affected by an incident or as many as 50 in huge extended families. It's the same with drink drivers too although you cannot hang them simply because something MAY have happened as a result of their actions.

Child molesters. I have no answer. What can be done with them? Although I'd favour a reintroduction of the death penalty we know it's not an answer and sterilization with imprisonment could create greater monsters.

What Folau did for mine was worse than a single incident of dv or drinkdriving. However callous that appears on first reading each and every case must be considered separately, not all dv or dd incidents have the same outcomes. I consider Folau's effect on the vulnerable, the less capable of us. It's almost impossible to compare a single case of dd with hate speech. How much weight do we apportion?

 

[john1420]

I understand your position. It's definitely a balance. The thing with balance is weight. It's how much weight we give things that's important I believe. In a dv situation there may be somewhere between 3 or 4 people affected by an incident or as many as 50 in huge extended families. It's the same with drink drivers too although you cannot hang them simply because something MAY have happened as a result of their actions.

Child molesters. I have no answer. What can be done with them? Although I'd favour a reintroduction of the death penalty we know it's not an answer and sterilization with imprisonment could create greater monsters.

What Folau did for mine was worse than a single incident of dv or drinkdriving. However callous that appears on first reading each and every case must be considered separately, not all dv or dd incidents have the same outcomes. I consider Folau's effect on the vulnerable, the less capable of us. It's almost impossible to compare a single case of dd with hate speech. How much weight do we apportion?

It may not be a deterrent to others, but it certainly is the answer to recidivism :)

 

[LittleDavey]

Personally I think the entire Folau thing has been blown way out of proportion. Sure, he deserved to be sacked by Yawnion for breach of contract, but beyond that it's become farcical.

I'd love to see him back in the NRL. Probably on the condition that he doesn't publicly make inflammatory comments about certain topics, but I don't think it's right to deny him employment because of his personal (religious) views. That's actually the very definition of discrimination.

 

[Huge]

Personally I think the entire Folau thing has been blown way out of proportion. Sure, he deserved to be sacked by Yawnion for breach of contract, but beyond that it's become farcical.

I'd love to see him back in the NRL. Probably on the condition that he doesn't publicly make inflammatory comments about certain topics, but I don't think it's right to deny him employment because of his personal (religious) views. That's actually the very definition of discrimination.

Pretty sure it wasn't/isn't his religious views that's hindering employment. It's his stupid habit of running off at the mouth. His views should be discussed in a different thread.

 

[Super Freak]

Personally I think the entire Folau thing has been blown way out of proportion. Sure, he deserved to be sacked by Yawnion for breach of contract, but beyond that it's become farcical.

I'd love to see him back in the NRL. Probably on the condition that he doesn't publicly make inflammatory comments about certain topics, but I don't think it's right to deny him employment because of his personal (religious) views. That's actually the very definition of discrimination.

It seems as though the NRL will be in the right here for denying to register him.

 

[LittleDavey]

It seems as though the NRL will be in the right here for denying to register him.

How so?

 

[Foordy]

Personally I think the entire Folau thing has been blown way out of proportion. Sure, he deserved to be sacked by Yawnion for breach of contract, but beyond that it's become farcical.

I'd love to see him back in the NRL. Probably on the condition that he doesn't publicly make inflammatory comments about certain topics, but I don't think it's right to deny him employment because of his personal (religious) views. That's actually the very definition of discrimination.

it is not his religious views that is denying him employment ... it is his potential to damage the fiscal well-being and reputation of the NRL that's the issue ...

at least that would be the NRL's argument ... which is a strong one, and getting stronger by the day given the backlash that is occurring in the ESL right now

 

[Foordy]

 

[tommy]

Any club that wanted him would be foolish to take the NRL to court to try and get their way, they would be blacklisted from a premiership for at least the length of his contract. No NRL club is gonna want him and he can't make them. His career has been enough of a circus as it is, RL really doesn't need it.

 

[Sirlee oldman]

I could be wrong but I think the SL boss said that he didn’t want Izzy but that unlike the NRL he couldn’t block him from playing. That would imply that there is a legal difference between Australia and Britain or between the constitutions of the NRL and Super League.

 

[Foordy]

at least one SL club has already threatened Catalans with legal action should the signing of Folau cost them financially (through loss of sponsors etc)