I couldnt care less if anyone believes me, least of all you. I've been making that clear for years. And no point me naming names, because you wont belive that either because you are a Payten apologist. As i said, the issues under Green simply arent relevant in 2024 under Payten. Todd has built the team he wants. If Payten was actually a competent, strong coach he would have dealt with the players causing issues. When he's caused a lot of them though, the group arent going to back him.
But you dont have to believe me anyway, look at the results, look at the performances. Case closed really.