NRL Rules Discussion

[Coxy]

Strapping tape isn't mentioned. Knee braces aren't mentioned. Nothing about head gear. I could wear an NFL helmet. Rules don't say I can't, and because JT wears head gear, I'll wear a helmet. BotD

 

[Anonymous person]

Strapping tape isn't mentioned. Knee braces aren't mentioned. Nothing about head gear. I could wear an NFL helmet. Rules don't say I can't, and because JT wears head gear, I'll wear a helmet. BotD

i know Jeba is just having a laugh, and you most likely are as well, but ill entertain your post:

"(c) Protective clothing may be worn provided it
contains nothing of a rigid or dangerous nature.
(d) The referee shall order a player to remove any
part of his equipment which might be considered
dangerous"

strapping is protective clothing. knee braces are protective clothing. head gear is protective clothing. an nfl helmet is protective clothing, but would be considered dangerous to defenders AND is rigid in nature, therefore is prohibited.

so yes, the rules say you cant ;)

 

[Coxy]

My nfl helmet has foam sticky taped on. Therefore not rigid. BotD

 

[Nashy]

So is this thread done?

 

[Anonymous person]

I would assume so

 

[Kimlo]

I enjoy reading these arguments - makes for some good time wasting.

 

[OXY-351]

So is this thread done?

At least give it the benefit of the doubt that it might go somewhere

 

[Dexter]

I would assume so

I notice you accused someone of not backing up what they said in another thread.

I am still waiting for you to post the BoD rule or definition. If there is a rule it should be defined as to how far back the BoD goes and if it includes knock ons, offside play, touching the sideline or just grounding. It should say these things so where is it?

 

[Anonymous person]

i showed you where it is, and you refuse to answer my question of if its only mentioned in the guidelines, not in the rules, and is enforced by the referees then doesnt that mean the guidelines are rules?

 

[Porthoz]

I would assume there are three things which govern Rugby League as a game, like they exist in any other profession or sports, like soccer for example: Rules, Guidelines and Code of Conduct.
This should be how they work:

- The Rules of the Game are the foundation on which the Game of Rugby League is based. See them as and Act or even as a Constitution from which laws are based.
- The Referee Guidelines contain complementary information and directions for the adjudicating of the game. The guidelines are enforceable as laws derived from a constitution are, but as said before, they cannot contradict the Rules of the Game in any way.
- The Code of Conduct functions in a similar way to the guidelines, but refers to how any functionary or official of the Game deems to conduct himself on and off the field. As with the guidelines, this is also enforceable, but cannot override the contents of the Rules of the Game.

This means that the guidelines are in fact directives to the referees to how they should and must officiate a game. Needless to say that the current RL guidelines make the refs job more complicated than it should be!

 

[Anonymous person]

one would think that, and all evidence suggests that too, but Dexter knows better.

 

[Huge]

AP..you were right the whole way along. Wherever the definitions,guidelines,rules are written,if the game is being played under those aforementioned then that constitutes a set of rules. Poor old Dexter just cannot bring himself to agree with you. Just got to love Nashys great contribution......!

 

[Dexter]

i showed you where it is, and you refuse to answer my question of if its only mentioned in the guidelines, not in the rules, and is enforced by the referees then doesnt that mean the guidelines are rules?

Referee unsighted : The Referee should not disallow a try because he was not in
a position to see the grounding of the ball.

This is what BoD is derived from, it's in the Laws of the Game and interpreted in the refs guidelines and relabeled BoD.
Harrigan has then extended the interpretation to include everything from the the last play the ball to the try.

The guidelines are Harrigans interpretations of the Laws, written to try and get consistency in decisions.
The guidelines have been around since what, 2011 the Laws a bit longer.

 

[Anonymous person]

Referee unsighted : The Referee should not disallow a try because he was not in
a position to see the grounding of the ball.

This is what BoD is derived from, it's in the Laws of the Game and interpreted in the refs guidelines and relabeled BoD.
Harrigan has then extended the interpretation to include everything from the the last play the ball to the try.

But you've said the guidelines aren't enforceable rules, meaning none of that apart from the referee unsighted bit is enforceable according to you.

 

[Dexter]

Never said that at all.

I've been quite clear, the Guidelines are the refs interpretation of the Laws and they are being interpreted incorrectly in places. As in the Slater dropped ball.

I seem to remember you arguing about the knock on rule and saying the rules are the rules and the refs shouldn't be ruling knock on when a player drops the ball backwards from the hands onto to the knee, blah blah blah and 10 pages of APism.

If you were in Harrigans spot the knock on Law wouldn't change but your interpretation would and the game would change because of 1 persons point of view.

I'm still waiting for you to produce this BoD RULE btw or should it just read BoD see Macquarie Dictionary for definition.
You surely can't just refer to a rule and not have a definition.

What happens if say Melb are pinned against their tryline and the Dogs pick up a player and drive him back over the tryline in a two man tackle, the ball is dislodged and the dogs place the ball and claim a try. The refs are not sure if it was a strip so they go to the video. Who gets BoD ? Melb who were the attacking side or the Dogs who were defending.

What about a charge down and the player who scores was borderline offside. Which team gets BoD. The team which kicked or the team which charged down?

You see, rules need definitions otherwise they are not rules just words.

 

[Dexter]

Official reply from the NRL re my inquiry.


Hi David,

Thank you for your email, and I apologise for the late reply.

They are guidelines to the interpretations of specific laws of the game they are not in themselves laws or rules of the game.

Thank you for your support of the game.

Kind regards,

Elke

 

[fredie]

What happens if say Melb are pinned against their tryline and the Dogs pick up a player and drive him back over the tryline in a two man tackle, the ball is dislodged and the dogs place the ball and claim a try. The refs are not sure if it was a strip so they go to the video. Who gets BoD ? Melb who were the attacking side or the Dogs who were defending.

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depends on how the ball . came loose

 

[Coxy]

depends on how the ball . came loose

I reckon the full stop stripped it.