Our Signings - Half Season Review

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Ok, so we're just over halfway through the season, so i think now would be a fitting time to evaluate how our new signings have performed. Try not to be too negative. [icon_razz1

Israel Folau
Shake your money maker. I think Israel has been outstanding on the wing for us. He's had some trouble when playing as a centre, but in the future i think he could be a massive threat there. His aerial ability is second to none and he's a brilliant finisher. Overall he's had a largely positive season, the only negatives i can see are in the defensive side of his game, but some coaching can fix that up.
8/10

Lagi Setu
This fella has copped a fair bit of flak over the last few weeks after some weak displays. Fair enough as well. I'll be honest, i rate Setu highly but he has had a poor season thus far. His tackling technique needs some work and his ball security seems to be lacking. He hasn't really had a strong impact in any of our games. To be fair though, i don't think Henjak has really used him correctly. He should be running wide, on the fringes looking to latch onto a ball from Wallace or Lockyer. Doesn't excuse his poor defensive showings though.
4/10

Ben Te'o
People were calling for him to be dropped after all of three rounds which i think was a tad unfair. I think this chap has done ok for us so far. He's been solid in most games and a standout in one or two. We've seen glimpses of his ability to hit the line, plus he gets through around 30 tackles each game which isn't bad. He has a bit of character about him and is a good player to have in the squad for morale IMO.
6/10

Antonio Winterstein

The youngster from the Roosters didn't even expect to play first grade this season! His early season form was excellent, although recently he's dipped. Playing outside Steve Michaels doesn't help considering he never passes the ball. Like Folau, he's a very good finisher and has good communication with the halves as we've seen with the Wallace/Winterstein special which involves the grubber into the corner. Defensively questions have to be asked. He doesn't look all that confident under the high ball and he's not a big strong fella, so close to the line he can be beaten quite easily. On an overall level though, price wise he has been a revelation. I think he'll be a mainstay in the team for a few years yet.
7/10

Aaron Gorrell

Bit of a gamble this chap. He hasn't played in a few weeks, though he might be back in the team soon the way we're playing. I think he's been disappointing. He may have good organisational skills and 'lead the forwards around the paddock' well but his game is lacking talent wise. His passes from dummy-half are slow and i don't recall ever seeing him taking a run which made more than one metre. There's no dynamism to his game. Needs to improve.
5/10
 
I Think Folau is rated too highly IMO. I don't think he has improved at all since last year.. I think Winterstien would be an 8/10 he has been awesome for us.
 
Quality that left for us? 10/10
Sack cullen /thread.
 
I'd give Setu 1/10, what a disappointment. Where is that aggressive monster from the Dragons? He's been replaced by a careless penalty machine.

T'eo 4/10, he's shown some good form at time but every second match is completly crap. If he was consistent I'd give him more.
 
I can't fault Folau for his onfield efforts but value for money wise I have always maintained $400k for a winger is a waste.
That money could have helped retain Ennis, Stagg and Hannant.
 
Dexter said:
I can't fault Folau for his onfield efforts but value for money wise I have always maintained $400k for a winger is a waste.
That money could have helped retain Ennis, Stagg and Hannant.

I doubt he is on 400k
 
Folau is worth every cent that we (reportedly) paid for him.
 
The Rock said:
Jeba said:
Folau is worth every cent that we (reportedly) paid for him.

Of course he is, but the question remains - Was it worth it to pay big money for Folau in expense for a quality prop and the form hooker of the comp? IMO, no way.

There was no way we were going to match the Bulldogs' offer for Hannant, regardless of signing Folau or not. He got a good offer from the Broncos, he got an outstanding offer from the Bulldogs. We were never gonna keep him.

If we had not have signed Teo and Setu I reckon we could've kept Ennis, and still got Folau.
 
Awesome, this thread has gone the complete opposite way i was hoping it would go.
 
^
From what I know:

Hannant was going to go - because the pay difference was just too large to ignore. Bulldogs were going hard because they had a mountain of cash to spend. We were not in control of this one unless we wanted to short change ourselves. Fair enough imo

Ennis - It really didn't seem like we wanted to keep him. It's a strange one because he has been a very consistent performer for us over the years. How many MOTM did he pick up in his short time here? Sad to see him go but perhaps the price wasn't right, I'm not sure. Gorrell is piss weak IMO.
 
Folau: 7/10. Been good in the air, but I've been very disappointed with his efforts in the centres. Even on the wings his kick returns have been ineffective. He needs to lift his game.

Setu: 1/10. Absolute joke.

Te'o: 3/10. One decent game in the first 16 rounds. Gotta be joking. Powderpuff.

Gorrell: 4/10. Very average and in fact seemed to stymie our attack when he was on.

Winterstein: 6/10. good finisher but just not enough urgency in defence or fielding kicks, or technique under the high ball.
 
Jeba said:
Folau is worth every cent that we (reportedly) paid for him.


He would be if we used him constructively. So far, largely a very expensive super pogo stick - we have barely tapped into his enormous potential because IMO, Henjak at a minimum doesn't know how to.

With the others, I reckon it's pretty much the same story with the players we lost: largely average for us but great at their new clubs.

Hmmm ... eusa_think

(Except Gorrell. Don't rate him that much).
 
It's hard to know at the moment how Folau should be used though. I think he is a bit wasted on the wing but he has obvious defensive problems in the centres. I am not saying he is a waste OF MONEY on the wing, because I hate the argument that we shouldn't waste cap space on wingers.

I still think he should be given a shot at left centre, and I reckon his kick returns and dummy half runs would be better on that side of the field with his big right foot step. It would also help the problem we are having under the high ball with Winterstein out there.
 
Jeba said:
It's hard to know at the moment how Folau should be used though. I think he is a bit wasted on the wing but he has obvious defensive problems in the centres. I am not saying he is a waste OF MONEY on the wing, because I hate the argument that we shouldn't waste cap space on wingers.

I still think he should be given a shot at left centre, and I reckon his kick returns and dummy half runs would be better on that side of the field with his big right foot step. It would also help the problem we are having under the high ball with Winterstein out there.


I reckon Folau would be fantastic in either position.

IMO, he could be every bit as good as Inglis.

I just wish Henjak had as much insight as Bellyache On how to really utilise talent.
 
I cant see folau ever being as good as inglis. We are yet to see much of a fend or a step at all. Its either jumping over ppl, or barging over right now
 
QUEENSLANDER said:
I cant see folau ever being as good as inglis. We are yet to see much of a fend or a step at all. Its either jumping over ppl, or barging over right now

You would say that your a Storm fan
 
Coxy said:
Folau: 7/10. Been good in the air, but I've been very disappointed with his efforts in the centres. Even on the wings his kick returns have been ineffective. He needs to lift his game.

Setu: 1/10. Absolute joke.

Te'o: 3/10. One decent game in the first 16 rounds. Gotta be joking. Powderpuff.

Gorrell: 4/10. Very average and in fact seemed to stymie our attack when he was on.

Winterstein: 6/10. good finisher but just not enough urgency in defence or fielding kicks, or technique under the high ball.

I think I am going to have to agree with these ratings. Setu has been awful, nothing more nothing less. Te'o hasnt been spectacular at all but has been good in patches. Gorrell has really only done one thing, make a mistake which won us the game against Melbourne in round 2 [icon_lol1. and our wingers have been super in attack but average in defence.
 

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