Our trash is their... treasure?

[Bucking Beads]

I' can't wait to see Folau run over the top of Gasnier LOL.

 

[Porthoz]

I' can't wait to see Folau run over the top of Gasnier LOL.

Opposite sides of the field, Folau will trample Cooper instead...

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

From daily telegraphs website:

"Coach John Cartwright has left his options open by picking Walker on the bench. The Titans have indicated they may play Walker at fullback, which would move Campbell to five-eighth, Rogers to the centres and Michaels out of the team. Laffranchi should be in for a big night of work in the absence of Harrison."

Maybe he wont play afterall, surely sanity will prevail

 

[Coxy]

Yep. Michaels is the guy you name in your side to lull your opposition into a false (?) sense of security. Unfortunately the Broncos weren't in on the joke for the first 20 rounds of last season.

 

[Anonymous person]

Do you even understand why he did that though? QUICK PLAY THE BALL!!!

He didn't do it looking for a line break, he did it to put markers on the back foot. And watch the whole set of 6 leading up to the Denan Kemp miracle try against Parramatta to see how effective it can be. Thaiday ran at markers, went to his knees, played it straight away, and PJ Marsh was able to scoot out of dummy half for very important metres which put us in the position to win the game.

has kemp scored 2 miracle tries against parramatta? because in 2008, when lockyer kicked for kemp to win the game in the last seconds, Peter Wallace played the ball to David Stagg, Stagg passed it to Lockyer, then Lockyer kicked to Kemp. Thaiday was nowhere to be seen.

in case you try and say thats not how it happened.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwdYbMY ... re=related

nothing thaiday did in the lead up to the try was important. the last tackle had nothing to do with him, and thats where we won it.

thaiday ran back at the markers on nearly every run. not to get quick play the balls, because dropping to your knees as soon as you get touched constitutes as dominant tackle, therefore getting an even SLOWER play the ball than just a regular hitup. and he was rubbish when he did it. since about mid last year hes stopped doing it all together, and hes now regarded as the best second rower in the league. coincidence? i dont think so.

 

[ningnangnong]

Do you even understand why he did that though? QUICK PLAY THE BALL!!!

He didn't do it looking for a line break, he did it to put markers on the back foot. And watch the whole set of 6 leading up to the Denan Kemp miracle try against Parramatta to see how effective it can be. Thaiday ran at markers, went to his knees, played it straight away, and PJ Marsh was able to scoot out of dummy half for very important metres which put us in the position to win the game.

has kemp scored 2 miracle tries against parramatta? because in 2008, when lockyer kicked for kemp to win the game in the last seconds, Peter Wallace played the ball to David Stagg, Stagg passed it to Lockyer, then Lockyer kicked to Kemp. Thaiday was nowhere to be seen.

in case you try and say thats not how it happened.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwdYbMY ... re=related

I'm not getting involved in this, but that footage doesn't show all the other tackles before the final one. Thus, you can't use it as a basis for your argument. Note how Jeb says 'watch the WHOLE set of six'.

 

[Jeba]

Well done to Ning for educating the gumnut cottage boy.

 

[Coxy]

But we all know every try is created solely on the play the try is scored...everything in the lead up is irrelevant.

 

[Je$ter]

Do you even understand why he did that though? QUICK PLAY THE BALL!!!

He didn't do it looking for a line break, he did it to put markers on the back foot. And watch the whole set of 6 leading up to the Denan Kemp miracle try against Parramatta to see how effective it can be. Thaiday ran at markers, went to his knees, played it straight away, and PJ Marsh was able to scoot out of dummy half for very important metres which put us in the position to win the game.

has kemp scored 2 miracle tries against parramatta? because in 2008, when lockyer kicked for kemp to win the game in the last seconds, Peter Wallace played the ball to David Stagg, Stagg passed it to Lockyer, then Lockyer kicked to Kemp. Thaiday was nowhere to be seen.

in case you try and say thats not how it happened.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwdYbMY ... re=related

nothing thaiday did in the lead up to the try was important. the last tackle had nothing to do with him, and thats where we won it.

thaiday ran back at the markers on nearly every run. not to get quick play the balls, because dropping to your knees as soon as you get touched constitutes as dominant tackle, therefore getting an even SLOWER play the ball than just a regular hitup. and he was rubbish when he did it. since about mid last year hes stopped doing it all together, and hes now regarded as the best second rower in the league. coincidence? i dont think so.

It doesn't constitute a dominant tackle, it constitutes a surrender tackle [icon_wink

It is coached at all levels to 'find your front,' a lot of players use the same technique Thaiday was using.

It isn't a coincidence I agree, but I think it has something more to do with Thaidays work ethic on and off the field that has made him become perhaps the best 2nd rower in the game. Giving up the durries and maccas has made a huge change to his game more than anything else imo. When you are fatigued it is a lot easier to take the option to find your front and get up quick by going down on contact as opposed to pushing through the line then finding your front which is Thaidays game now. Running wide or not running wide it doesn't make too much difference, however 2008 Thaiday would be sucking in the big ones after 15minutes and take shortcuts, 2010 Thaiday plays 80 solid minutes and has the extra fitness to make those efforts to push through the line before trying to QPTB.

 

[Coxy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwdYbMY ... re=related[/url]

nothing thaiday did in the lead up to the try was important. the last tackle had nothing to do with him, and thats where we won it.

thaiday ran back at the markers on nearly every run. not to get quick play the balls, because dropping to your knees as soon as you get touched constitutes as dominant tackle, therefore getting an even SLOWER play the ball than just a regular hitup. and he was rubbish when he did it. since about mid last year hes stopped doing it all together, and hes now regarded as the best second rower in the league. coincidence? i dont think so.

It doesn't constitute a dominant tackle, it constitutes a surrender tackle [icon_wink

It is coached at all levels to 'find your front,' a lot of players use the same technique Thaiday was using.

It isn't a coincidence I agree, but I think it has something more to do with Thaidays work ethic on and off the field that has made him become perhaps the best 2nd rower in the game. Giving up the durries and maccas has made a huge change to his game more than anything else imo. When you are fatigued it is a lot easier to take the option to find your front and get up quick by going down on contact as opposed to pushing through the line then finding your front which is Thaidays game now. Running wide or not running wide it doesn't make too much difference, however 2008 Thaiday would be sucking in the big ones after 15minutes and take shortcuts, 2010 Thaiday plays 80 solid minutes and has the extra fitness to make those efforts to push through the line before trying to QPTB.[/quote:20w5is4b]

Pffft...what would you know? You only play the game.

 

[Anonymous person]

But we all know every try is created solely on the play the try is scored...everything in the lead up is irrelevant.

That try was. There was nothing special in any of the hitups before it. It was simply a moment of Lockyer brilliance that got that try. I know jeb said the whole set, but the whole set is irrelevant in that play.

And no, it's not a surrender tackle. A surrender is when the ball carrier takes a dive. A dominant is when the defender stops all forward movement in the tackle. Thaiday hit the defense then dropped after his momentum had been stopped. Dominant tackle.

 

[Coxy]

So quick rucks, quick play the balls, making the defence back pedal, gaining momentum...that had nothing to do with getting into the position to score that try?

 

[Je$ter]

But we all know every try is created solely on the play the try is scored...everything in the lead up is irrelevant.

That try was. There was nothing special in any of the hitups before it. It was simply a moment of Lockyer brilliance that got that try. I know jeb said the whole set, but the whole set is irrelevant in that play.

And no, it's not a surrender tackle. A surrender is when the ball carrier takes a dive. A dominant is when the defender stops all forward movement in the tackle. Thaiday hit the defense then dropped after his momentum had been stopped. Dominant tackle.

Dude I am not going to get into an argument with you but if you interperet that as a dominant tackle you have nfi.

A player dropping to his knees to get up to ptb is a surrender every day of the week. The defender doesn't stop the momentum of the tackle the attacker does.

http://www.arlra.org.au/dominant-tackle.htm

Watch the second tackle in the surrender film Tigers vs. Dragons. It is clear as day that it is exactly what Thaiday got in the habit of doing.

 

[Professor47]

On Michaels - you didn't have to be a genius to know he wasn't going to be the next big thing. I don't like bagging him for the sake of it - but he was never a gun player in my eyes and wasn't 'Bronco' standard. A solid player at perhaps a Raiders/Knights outfit (no disrespect).

Surely no one thought he would be a long time Bronco.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I thought Michaels was decent on the wing but as soon as he moved to centre it all fell to pieces IMO. Was a solid winger nothing more.

 

[OXY-351]

If Steve Michales is better than no-one, and no-one is better than Greg Inglis, does that then mean that Steve Michaels is better than Greg Inglis?

 

[Nashy]

Yes.

 

[OXY-351]

Yes.

Yet another f*ck up from Bruno then! He let Michaels go and replaces him with Inglis. That's got to be his worst decision since he signed Hunt over Slater.