Re: Bird

pagey

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He's mentioned when he was injured last he wanted to go home but Wayne talked him out of it. I think he will bolt , maybe stick around next year to get his stocks up but will head south after. All his family are down there and I think he will go to Newcastle.
 

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He's mentioned when he was injured last he wanted to go home but Wayne talked him out of it. I think he will bolt , maybe stick around next year to get his stocks up but will head south after. All his family are down there and I think he will go to Newcastle.
that was last year ... he is reportedly in a much better head space and in good spirits this year.

 
injury prone players are just that until one day....they aren't...??

Who is to say next year Bird does stay injury free for the next 3 years..??....seen that happen plenty of times in the past...

In a struggling team he was arguably our best competitor....I really like that in a player....his value was enhanced in my view, and I reckon he was an absolute shoe-in as a centre for NSW...

Thats the type of talent we have on our books...versatile too; we need to do the best by him and find his full time role in this side. I reckon he could make a real go at left centre, if thats where Siebs reckons he can get a sustained run.

Theres a bit of Tonie Carroll about him there.....who here would have left Tunsa go after his injuries..??
This^^^
Personally, I love the term 'genuine footballer'
They seem to become more & more scarce every year.
Jack is a genuine footballer through & through.
Keep him
 

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Is there any actual news on his current mindset? Syd media keep reguritating the crap he might want to come back to Sydney but ive heard zero information about that. My link at the sharks says its not on the cards and my journo here hasn't heard peep about it! Buzz keeps sprouting crap but i think that's for his own agenda or to fill his air time.

Wolfie Wolfie @Mr Fourex @1910 ? Any insider stuff?
As far as i know, and it's not a great deal, he's happy up here. The boys get on well with him these days I think.
 

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One of our worst ever purchases. For what we're paying him, the return on investment has been absolutely zilch.

That's not say I don't think he can be a good player for us but for all his potential he's done sweet **** all in reality. If another club would take on his full salary, I'd let him go, but if not, we may as well keep him as he is a real competitor and a very good player. If he doesn't play at least 20 games next year, I'd certainly be looking to offload him at any price at that point.
I think he proved himself worthy of a big salary earlier this year: he was pretty much locked into a NSW centre spot before he went down. If we’re not going to lose anybody by keeping him for the remainder of his contract then where is the risk in hoping he comes good physically and repays us? He’s still young and has plenty to give. His acl was unfortunate considering he’d finally gotten his body to 100% after the sharks rooted him.

Mind you we have to be on red alert for the rorters or storm to somehow find 800k in their ‘cap’ to throw at Fifita. He loves the club, so I don’t think he’ll leave.
 
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injury prone players are just that until one day....they aren't...??

Who is to say next year Bird does stay injury free for the next 3 years..??....seen that happen plenty of times in the past...
That is true, tedesco was injury prone in his early career at the tigers.
 

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If he stays, we probably should chuck him at 5/8th next year, until we can find someone better. Staggs should stay at right centre and this will push Boyd to left centre. It's not ideal, but if I had to choose between Boyd and Bird in the halves, I'd go with Bird.
 

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If he stays, we probably should chuck him at 5/8th next year, until we can find someone better. Staggs should stay at right centre and this will push Boyd to left centre. It's not ideal, but if I had to choose between Boyd and Bird in the halves, I'd go with Bird.
Bird in 1, Milf back to 6, Dearden 7, Turps/Seg 9 and Boyd and Staggs 4/3 with Glenn and Fifi on the flanks or Floating 3/4 when needed....Its a strong and capable lineup.
 

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Mind you we have to be on red alert for the rorters or storm to somehow find 800k in their ‘cap’ to throw at Fifita. He loves the club, so I don’t think he’ll leave.
I wouldn't worry. The club can still work around the terrible deals of Boyd and Macca (Gillett a little bit longer and harder to work around but still have a gut feeling he'll retire in the next year or two) and backend a Fifita deal. He'll stay, he loves the club and Siebs won't want to lose him that's for sure!

As for Bird, he is a gun right centre, average left centre...pretty much the same as Staggs but probably three times the cost. His wage is the issue, not Bird's ability. He is a luxury to have, not a must have.
 

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I think he proved himself worthy of a big salary earlier this year: he was pretty much locked into a NSW centre spot before he went down. If we’re not going to lose anybody by keeping him for the remainder of his contract then where is the risk in hoping he comes good physically and repays us? He’s still young and has plenty to give. His acl was unfortunate considering he’d finally gotten his body to 100% after the sharks rooted him.
I don't know if I would say "proved" he's really done nothing in a Broncos jersey except suck out 1.5m of our cap or thereabouts. But I do think you're right, if we're not battling for cap space (and I don't think we are) we may as well keep him and hope the injury curse is behind him and he becomes a consistent great player for us. He's probably more frustrated than anyone else barely taking the field for almost 2 years.
 

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If he stays, we probably should chuck him at 5/8th next year, until we can find someone better. Staggs should stay at right centre and this will push Boyd to left centre. It's not ideal, but if I had to choose between Boyd and Bird in the halves, I'd go with Bird.
did he ever play there for the sharks..???...he is a strong runner and can hit in defence...id have to think about it; if Boyds the immovable object then wonder who is the best fit alongside Bird at the 7....be between Milf and Dearden/SoS...?

assuming that Boyds next years left centre here...
 
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Bird in 1, Milf back to 6, Dearden 7, Turps/Seg 9 and Boyd and Staggs 4/3 with Glenn and Fifi on the flanks or Floating 3/4 when needed....Its a strong and capable lineup.
No way should we put him at 1 after his ACL , no the quickest as it was . We need pace at the back so milf stays imo
 

Dazza 92

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No way should we put him at 1 after his ACL , no the quickest as it was . We need pace at the back so milf stays imo
yes...have to agree the best way to have him re-injure is to play the 1.....so we want to avoid that...

centre or in the halves...wherever it is though...he really needs to stay there and develop. One of the real issues with so many injuries so early in his career is he has missed out on a lot of development time by playing; we need to accelerate this when he is back so I believe we choose his position for next year and thats all he plays...
 

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did he ever play there for the sharks..???...he is a strong runner and can hit in defence...id have to think about it; if Boyds the immovable object then wonder who is the best fit alongside Bird at the 7....be between Milf and Dearden/SoS...?

assuming that Boyds next years left centre here...
He played there, but not really like a half, more like an inside centre.
I think with either one (Bird or Boyd) at 5/8th, we really need a gun halfback, but we just have rookies that are still years away development wise.
 

Dazza 92

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He played there, but not really like a half, more like an inside centre.
I think with either one (Bird or Boyd) at 5/8th, we really need a gun halfback, but we just have rookies that are still years away development wise.
well that's kinda how the half back tiers work dont they...you either have veterans like Pearce or Cronk, guys about to hit their prime in Moses, Keary and Townsend, and then the guys like we have....rookies who no-one is sure what exactly the will become...

doesn't really seem to be a middle ground, and if you have any of the first 2 tiers you will move heaven and earth to keep them...its the hardest position to trade for...

believe me; long term you want to be doing what the Broncs are doing and developing your own, or do it the Roosters way and sign them from someone else and develop.

If not, then expect to way overpay...
 

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