POST GAME Round 10 - Broncos vs Roosters

[Huge]

I'm looking at it from a different angle, AS's perspective I believe. He doesn't really owe McCullough anything but what he has seen must, absolutely must be contrasted against Cook's performances for him. He's human right? With that in mind and the real possibility that he will have to change a winning formula I struggle to see why he would risk it. I wouldn't. I'd hazard a guess and say he's seen enough of McCullough to know and what he has seen is a losing hooker without real attacking prowess.

I'm not saying McCullough can't or won't improve but realistically I think we've seen his best possible game...and can't remember it.

 

[roo-ted]

I'm looking at it from a different angle, AS's perspective I believe. He doesn't really owe McCullough anything but what he has seen must, absolutely must be contrasted aga9Cook's performances for him. He's human right? With that in mind and the real possibility that he will have to change a winning formula I struggle to see why he would risk it. I wouldn't. I'd hazard a guess and say he's seen enough of McCullough to know and what he has seen is a losing hooker without real attacking prowess.

I'm not saying McCullough can't or won't improve but realistically I think we've seen his best possible game...and can't remember it.

In saying that who do you go with for the number 9? Turpin or Seggy?

 

[Tom]

What will you think of Seibold if he reinstates Macca? He showed some grit in getting rid of Kodi. I didn't see that coming - or like it at the time - but it was the right decision. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt now.

Would be upset if he continues to stink it up but keeps the spot. As others have said, he will probably only be seeing 50-60min\ game from now on IF he gets a look in. If reinstated, he would be on his last chance to impress imo. Otherwise, he could go join KNIK, Kahu, McG or Roberts.

If I was in charge he would have to wait for injuries to occur to our other options before he got another shot.

 

[McHunt]

In saying that who do you go with for the number 9? Turpin or Seggy?

I'd stick with the one-two punch of Turpin starting and Seggy on the bench for now, and see what happens. I think it's too hard to call right now. Both were excellent against the Roosters.

 

[NSW stables]

I think macca will be brought back into the team when fit, but like many, dont think it is in the best interest of the team, particularly in light of recemt performances. Service from the ruck has been crisp and gets halves and forwards running onto the balls.

As others have pointed out, our defence does not seem significantly affected. And although macca racks up tackle numbers, turpin and seg putting on solid/big shots fires the big men up to follow suit.

I think having seg on the bench worked well for us (as did having kniko in 2015) and should be continued. I know AS prefers an 80 min hooker but we have forwards who can play longer minutes so can probably sacrifice the replacement.

I really like macca and his experience in the training squad is valuable but dont think he is the best #9 for us at this time.

 

[Alec]

I think Seggy needs to stay as a bench hooker. I've always liked having an impact dummy half runner off the bench, I think it's severely underused.

 

[winslow_wong]

Gordy said we won the game playing Bennett ball.

Well Brisbane is ground zero for it so we should be the masters of Bennett ball. Only now we also have seiball at our disposal.

 

[BroncsFan]

True. But he booted Farah, and he was a much better hooker than Macca.

Yes, but Farah was there for 12 months or so compared to Macca who's been playing here for +10 yrs and been under contracts since he was 12 or something. Farah also left the tigers rather unceremoniously and as such lost his aura, suddenly he was on the bottom rung of the ladder and was easy to cut.

It would be ridiculous to think that a new coach could come in and rip apart a team without impacting on the playing squad's morale... this isn't a video game

I think Macca will take the starting spot back from Turpin with Seggy on the bench.

Is that what I want?? No... Is it the best option?? Probably not, but we've already had huge turnover of the playing squad... people need to keep their expectations in check. Maybe he won't walk back into the team and maybe the playing group are sick of Macca and want the change, but that seems unlikely.

Isn't Turpin under a development contract anyway?? If so doesn't he drop out by default given we would have our full compliment of hookers available

 

[Super Freak]

Watching the post-match interviews, I couldn't help but chuckle when Dearden did his.

You could tell he was nervous as ****. The look on his face after the interview, he didn't know what to do. He didn't know if he should stay or walk away.

Like a deer in the headlights.

 

[Sirlee oldman]

Macca wasn’t dropped because of form. He got injured. I get that Turpin has come in and done well but surely Macca gets a chance to show why he’s the number 1 hooker in the squad.
You shouldn’t just throw senior players away because someone else fills in for a couple of weeks and does well. Besides the competition is good for all of them. Bring Macca back when he’s right and see if he can show why he deserves to keep his job. If he can’t then drop him.

 

[Huge]

In saying that who do you go with for the number 9? Turpin or Seggy?

Oh, no contest for mine. Turpin all the way. I hope I'm wrong but I think I have seen Segeyaro before but in a different form. By that I mean I believe I've seen a person motivated by their most important need, themself. I hope I'm wrong and I too love Segs flashes of brilliance but I think he'll only ever give enough of himself to accomplish his short term needs. It's like he's an accomplished actor, saying what he senses people need to hear and turning on his maximum power for oh so short bursts.

When his needs are met then it's '**** you all'. I've got a few bucks, coast along looking after number one. All things to all people, once tge coach loves me I'm right. The guys in the team like me, it's all sweet bro but holding back and just doing enough. He might go full on until a contracts signed then it's feet up time. Shallow and talented.

I could be dead wrong, after all I've never met him and I might just be a bitter and cynical old man. It's just that I feel I've met him before in a sense.

 

[Lockysillegitimatechild]

Macca wasn’t dropped because of form. He got injured. I get that Turpin has come in and done well but surely Macca gets a chance to show why he’s the number 1 hooker in the squad.
You shouldn’t just throw senior players away because someone else fills in for a couple of weeks and does well. Besides the competition is good for all of them. Bring Macca back when he’s right and see if he can show why he deserves to keep his job. If he can’t then drop him.

I completely agree with this
Getting rid of macca without giving him a chance to truly fight for his spot (I get that he should have been fighting for his spot for a few years but he was never troubled under Bennett or with the reserves we had, now the challenge has truly been thrown down) would be terrible for team dynamics and trust. If we win every game until he comes back, I'd give him up until our first loss with him at dummy half to outshine Turpins current form.
I think Turpin should without a doubt be our dummy half going forward, but macca is a well liked player who is respected by the other players and offers them a lot of guidance. It needs to happen in the right way. Let's not forget though that macca may be even slower after his mcl injury...

 

[broncos4life]

Gordy said we won the game playing Bennett ball.

**** he is just a disgusting piece of shit.

 

[Wolfie]

**** he is just a disgusting piece of shit.

I didnt even bother reading the article, but if he means Bennett ball is just going back to basics ( running hard, tackling hard and not making errors ) then he probably isnt far off the mark. I doubt thats what he means though!

 

[Morkel]

Watching the post-match interviews, I couldn't help but chuckle when Dearden did his.

You could tell he was nervous as ****. The look on his face after the interview, he didn't know what to do. He didn't know if he should stay or walk away.

Like a deer in the headlights.

Yeah but it was great when they questioned him about the physicality.

"Loved it. I love it".

This kid enjoys being amongst it, he's not going to shy away from getting hit at the line, and he's not going to act like a diva when things don't go his way. Really good signs from him.

 

[The Strapper]

Brilliant!

 

[Matheos]

As well as Turpin has played, Macca will come back into the starting 9 when fit.
Don't forget this is a transition year for the squad with a new coaching philosophy and from all accounts from players, coaches, officials - Macca is one of the most respected and hardest working guys off the field.
Turpin is still young and will get his chance in the near future. However Macca must get his spot back (and obviously perform to keep it), especially as we will be deep into the origin period and need some experience/leaders to help get us through.
Side note: Seggy's energy and enthusiasm is unreal. What a utility hooker.

 

[broncos4life]

Yeah but it was great when they questioned him about the physicality.

"Loved it. I love it".

This kid enjoys being amongst it, he's not going to shy away from getting hit at the line, and he's not going to act like a diva when things don't go his way. Really good signs from him.

I love him, he is everything that Ash Taylor has shown he is not.

 

[Wolfie]

I love him, he is everything that Ash Taylor has shown he is not.

Ash to me just seems to have lost his enthusiasm for the game. I reckon he knows he should have moved clubs and is regretting it now. I still think there is a very good halfback there, but i also doubt he is going to achieve what he is capable of.

 

[broncos4life]

Ash to me just seems to have lost his enthusiasm for the game. I reckon he knows he should have moved clubs and is regretting it now. I still think there is a very good halfback there, but i also doubt he is going to achieve what he is capable of.

This will sound harsh, but he can suck shit. He was offered a lifeline and through it back in our face because he wanted the big money, I hope he regrets it every day. He should be held up to every young player coming through not to get ahead of yourself too early.