PRE-GAME Round 12 - Broncos vs Sharks

[rnabokov]

You know when an african american calls another african american a n....r is it racism? I only ask because I was 132 ks just a short time ago so I was morbidly obese and had been for 32 years so I kind of got used to calling myself a fat **** and am still overweight now so is it fat shaming to call someone fat if you yourself are fat? Fat Tony is a nickname just like Fatty( or alternately Fat) on the football show was, it was a term of endearment because Vautin wasn't fat. I've also known a bloke called Fatboy who was as skinny as a rake. Kind of a woke question coming from a bloke whose called certain players unsavoury names.

Talk about double standards!! You called Hoppa an idiot but that was when you were being kind! Only a week or two before you called Ikin a **** !!! So calling some one a ***** cool but calling Seibold Fat Tony is hurtful? Bit too woke for me !!!

Double standards? Oh come on Huge, fat shaming is all about bigotry and discrimination. It's playing the man and not the ball. Whether Seibold is fat or not has absolutely nothing to do with his qualities as a coach. It's no more and no less than a put down, a personal attack. I want no part of that shit.

When I called Hoppa an idiot or Ikin a **** it was focused on what they did or said, my criticisms of their public actions and pronouncements, not their humanity. Context is everything. Which is why I didn't call Hoppa a fat idiot or Ikin a fat ****. Their body size is irrelevant to what they did or said.

I was fat shamed relentlessly when I was a kid and it fucking hurt me and left scars. As much as when I was called a wop and a dago for being Polish. That hurt too. As Byron said, what deep wounds ever heal without a scar.

As for your comment on Fatty Vautin, you said it yourself. It had nothing to do with him being fat. I'm really surprised you can't see the difference.

And, as for you calling yourself a fat ****, I did too when I was fat, and it is exactly fat shaming. After one lives with the stigma of being fat you internalise it and end up believing it and your self worth suffers. That's why anorexia is such a big deal, which it was for me, because I didn't want to be a fat ****, something everyone kept reminding me of constantly as I grew up.

 

[Huge]

Double standards? Oh come on Huge, fat shaming is all about bigotry and discrimination. It's playing the man and not the ball. Whether Seibold is fat or not has absolutely nothing to do with his qualities as a coach. It's no more and no less than a put down, a personal attack. I want no part of that shit.

When I called Hoppa an idiot or Ikin a **** it was focused on what they did or said, my criticisms of their public actions and pronouncements, not their humanity. Context is everything. Which is why I didn't call Hoppa a fat idiot or Ikin a fat ****. Their body size is irrelevant to what they did or said.

I was fat shamed relentlessly when I was a kid and it fucking hurt me and left scars. As much as when I was called a wop and a dago for being Polish. That hurt too. As Byron said, what deep wounds ever heal without a scar.

As for your comment on Fatty Vautin, you said it yourself. It had nothing to do with him being fat. I'm really surprised you can't see the difference.

And, as for you calling yourself a fat ****, I did too when I was fat, and it is exactly fat shaming. After one lives with the stigma of being fat you internalise it and end up believing it and your self worth suffers. That's why anorexia is such a big deal, which it was for me, because I didn't want to be a fat ****, something everyone kept reminding me of constantly as I grew up.

Mmmm, you really think me calling him Fat Tony will shame him? Do you really believe he'd read it? Or would be hurt by it? I realize you may have had a bad experience as a kid, I did too coupled with a father who was an alcoholic and specialized in fistiotherapy. I was called fatty and fatso and sure, at the time it hurt but amazingly I grew up without being particularly hurt by the unpleasant experience. In fact I thought it built character. I became resilient and indifferent to the slur.

You called Ikin a ****, a vagina, you sexualised him in a sense and demeaned women into the bargain inferring that a **** or vagina was a 'bad or disgusting' thing. You called Hoppa an idiot which demeans the intellectually impaired as a quick check of the dictionary will tell you precisely what an 'idiot' is.

The point is we can all point to things and become all outraged and flustered about them, make them from molehill to mountain. You, know just how I did it with 'idiot' and '****'. A little less outrage, please.

 

[Huge]

I'll admit I had a chuckle at this... My brother (broncoes supporter) laughed at me when we failed to get Niu off you blokes. Oh how the tides have turned. Honestly from the little we saw of him I am going to run with he seems overrated so I'll stick with Brimson thanks. Supposedly he stayed for less with you blokes... why aren't you thanking him for his loyalty? You're making me seem like a troll now which I didn't want to be when I joined this as I enjoy some of your insights. If you play like you did for first half last week against the storm for at least 40 again I can see you getting up this week. We troubled them for the first half with possibly our worst side this year due to injuries. The scoreline blew out due to them going straight through our stand in second rower and centre combinations whilst having a worse fullback than Milford which anyone who has watched a titans game knew were never going to work defensively. Get a decent start and I can see you getting a win this week so best of luck to you all.

Hey Don, this might nkt be the right thread but you're much more likely to be all over what's happening next year for you guys, the coming and goings, latest news. I cannot be bothered going to the trouble of joining the Titans forums but maybe you could start a thread over in the general rugby league section and give us(me?) your take and what you know.

I don't want to jump ship like but I'd really like to see another super strong seq club emerge and would be happy to lend some secondary support especially as I'll be living on Musgrave Street at Kirra this time next year. Btw, I like the way your forwards are shaping up, you look like having quite the battalion .

 

[rnabokov]

Mmmm, you really think me calling him Fat Tony will shame him? Do you really believe he'd read it? Or would be hurt by it? I realize you may have had a bad experience as a kid, I did too coupled with a father who was an alcoholic and specialized in fistiotherapy. I was called fatty and fatso and sure, at the time it hurt but amazingly I grew up without being particularly hurt by the unpleasant experience. In fact I thought it built character. I became resilient and indifferent to the slur.

You called Ikin a ****, a vagina, you sexualised him in a sense and demeaned women into the bargain inferring that a **** or vagina was a 'bad or disgusting' thing. You called Hoppa an idiot which demeans the intellectually impaired as a quick check of the dictionary will tell you precisely what an 'idiot' is.

The point is we can all point to things and become all outraged and flustered about them, make them from molehill to mountain. You, know just how I did it with 'idiot' and '****'. A little less outrage, please.

Absolutely it will shame him. What he reads or doesn't is irrelevant. You are putting it out there. Any shaming is a political act: it feeds into other's bigotry and entrenches it, then it proliferates, like a virus. And good on you for becoming resilient and indifferent. Perhaps your indifference justifies you calling others fat as a personal put down. And that's the point. So Seibold is a bad coach 'cos he is fat? So that girl who is dying at 25 of anorexia because she was relentlessly fat shamed should instead just snap out of it and become resilient and indifferent?

As for the word "****", it is not sexualising at all. Look it up. It's a vulgar (not vulvar) expression which has nothing to do with putting women down. Which is why I didn't call him a vagina. Which is why calling someone a dick or prick is not sexualising. They are specific words with a specific historical derivation focused on being vulgarly critical, not sexualising.

Anyway, my last word on the subject:

 

[K-Style]

I'll admit I had a chuckle at this... My brother (broncoes supporter) laughed at me when we failed to get Niu off you blokes. Oh how the tides have turned. Honestly from the little we saw of him I am going to run with he seems overrated so I'll stick with Brimson thanks. Supposedly he stayed for less with you blokes... why aren't you thanking him for his loyalty? You're making me seem like a troll now which I didn't want to be when I joined this as I enjoy some of your insights. If you play like you did for first half last week against the storm for at least 40 again I can see you getting up this week. We troubled them for the first half with possibly our worst side this year due to injuries. The scoreline blew out due to them going straight through our stand in second rower and centre combinations whilst having a worse fullback than Milford which anyone who has watched a titans game knew were never going to work defensively. Get a decent start and I can see you getting a win this week so best of luck to you all.

You don't come across as a troll. There's folks here are lashing out left right and centre plus you've only responded to stuff put to you.
Like Huge I am keen to see a Qld side do well whichever one it is because there isn't a lot of positives out there atm.

 

[Foordy]

I dunno, how do you feel about Hodges?

Very happy that Wayne did what he did.

FTR, the person that replaced Hodges in 2002 had a very good career with us ... It was Brent Tate

 

[Dazza 92]

TPJ on Fifita's return this week:

“He’s a big boost. He’s a powerful runner and one of the best ball runners in the game right now. Obviously disappointed (to lose him next year) but I’m really happy for David. It’s a big opportunity for him and his family. We’re happy for him but he’s a Bronco until October. We just want to send him out as best we can.”

McHunt

I'll admit I had a chuckle at this... My brother (broncoes supporter) laughed at me when we failed to get Niu off you blokes. Oh how the tides have turned. Honestly from the little we saw of him I am going to run with he seems overrated so I'll stick with Brimson thanks. Supposedly he stayed for less with you blokes... why aren't you thanking him for his loyalty? You're making me seem like a troll now which I didn't want to be when I joined this as I enjoy some of your insights. If you play like you did for first half last week against the storm for at least 40 again I can see you getting up this week. We troubled them for the first half with possibly our worst side this year due to injuries. The scoreline blew out due to them going straight through our stand in second rower and centre combinations whilst having a worse fullback than Milford which anyone who has watched a titans game knew were never going to work defensively. Get a decent start and I can see you getting a win this week so best of luck to you all.

cant help but think you are repeating Brisbanes mistake of going all in on the forward pack...most expensive signing a useless **** (Taylor + Milf) and a bog average back line...

.....QLD doesnt need another Broncos roster.....please sort it out post haste...

 

[WASSHHH]

****, bad news for those of us who were looking forward to seeing if we rise without Milford: Dearden just told a press gallery Milly is nursing a hammy, but will be right this weekend. Cuntox.

Even someone with no hamstrings could drag themselves 63 metres, completely fail at fielding kicks and miss tackles in 80 minutes.

Remember, when it comes to expectations on what we’ll get from Milford, the bar is getting lower and lower by the week.

 

[McHunt]

Remember, when it comes to expectations on what we’ll get from Milford, the bar is getting lower and lower by the week.

I've lost my bar altogether.

 

[WASSHHH]

I've lost my bar altogether.

 

[the_next]

Croft OUT this week with a shoulder issue.
Would love to see
6. Paix
7. Dearden
9. Turpin

 

[theshed]

Croft OUT this week with a shoulder issue.
Would love to see
6. Paix
7. Dearden
9. Turpin

For real?? Our injuries are insane this year. I agree with your line up though. Milf and Croft both “coincidentally“ getting “injured” is a blessing in disguise.

1. Boyd (last chance)
2. Farnworth
3. Fifita
4. Staggs
5. Coates
6. Paix
7. Dearden
8. Flegler
9. Turpin
10. Haas
11. Offa
12. TPJ
13. Carrigan

14. Luke
15. Teo
16. Kennedy
17. Hopoate

Watch Seibold put Turpin at 7 and Dearden at 6.

 

[the_next]

For real?? Our injuries are insane this year. I agree with your line up though. Milf and Croft both “coincidentally“ getting “injured” is a blessing in disguise.

1. Boyd (last chance)
2. Farnworth
3. Fifita
4. Staggs
5. Coates
6. Paix
7. Dearden
8. Flegler
9. Turpin
10. Haas
11. Offa
12. TPJ
13. Carrigan

14. Luke
15. Teo
16. Kennedy
17. Hopoate

Watch Seibold put Turpin at 7 and Dearden at 6.

Well apparently our mate Milly will be playing.
So our brilliant coach will not doubt go
1. Boydy
6. Milly
7. Deardeny
9. Lukey

14.Turpiny

 

[Unbreakable]

I wouldn't be shocked if we don't see Croft again this season. He hasn't been the same player since that shoulder injury in Round 2. I think he needs a full shoulder reconstruction. We're better off doing it now so he's 100% fit for 2021.

 

[Waynesaurus]

mmmmmm I was hoping we were going to get a look at this team without Milford.

 

[Accept]

mmmmmm I was hoping we were going to get a look at this team without Milford.

Pretty sure Milf has been ruled out as well. You may get your wish.

 

[McHunt]

Pretty sure Milf has been ruled out as well. You may get your wish.

Not yet, only Croft.

 

[Jedhead]

I hope to high heaven we see Paix and Dearden killing it in the halves this week.