POST GAME Round 16 - Roosters vs Broncos

[ZTop]

I have a mate who’s a knights supporter trying to feed me that Pies failed because of Bennett. It’s gold.

Tbh I agree. Everything at a club revolves around Wayne. It's all set up for Wayne, for himself. As Nathan brown quite aptly put it. Soon as he leaves it will always goes to shit. Guarantee it will happen at souffs

 

[broncsgoat]

Tbh I agree. Everything at a club revolves around Wayne. It's all set up for Wayne, for himself. As Nathan brown quite aptly put it. Soon as he leaves it will always goes to shit. Guarantee it will happen at souffs

It’s because whoever follows him is inferior mate

 

[rnabokov]

Oh dear, you really can shoot off on a tangent can't you. I suppose the first signs aren't obvious to the afflicted.
Nevertheless I'll deal with it. I didn't dispute his right to voice an opinion, I took issue with the opinion itself.
It was well written garbage. Save the personal attacks and any you perceive exist in this post are a response to yours. Juvenile of me to be sure.

Mate, yes you did take issue with @Unbreakable's opinion but as I see it, you didn't critique his opinion at all. Instead, you basically lampooned him (not cool mate) for having an opinion because it was different to yours, on grounds which for mine, disqualifies most of us from having any opinion on here.

And for mine, you in fact did dispute his right to have an opinion, in this case, because you assert he wasn't an ex-international FB. As I see it, your argument was fallacious, an appeal to authority, one which you conveniently avoid when you criticise Milford and Seibold unless of course you a NRL level 5/8, NRL level coach and qualified dietician, in which case we are indeed privileged to have you on board.

 

[Kooly87]

It’s because whoever follows him is inferior mate

Forget just inferior, he has the most uncanny ability to be immediately followed by some absolutely remarkable Coaching plodders.

 

[abashii]

Forget just inferior, he has the most uncanny ability to be immediately followed by some absolutely remarkable Coaching plodders.

Bennett had nothing to do with Rick Stone, who's mostly been airbrushed from history like some soviet-era unperson, or Seibold. I don't know about the Dragons.

 

[Kooly87]

Bennett had nothing to do with Rick Stone, who's mostly been airbrushed from history like some soviet-era unperson, or Seibold. I don't know about the Dragons.

Well first there was Henjak at the Broncos, then Price at the Dragons, then of course Stone at the Knights (they've arguably airbrushed the whole Tinkler era, not just Stone) and finally Seibold at the Broncos. Not to say Wayne was responsible for those guys all being appointed, but there certainly is something uncanny about the way he gets immediately followed by some pretty ordinary Coaches.

Certainly doesn't bode too well for Jason Demetriou and Souths at this stage.

 

[abashii]

Well first there was Henjak at the Broncos, then Price at the Dragons, then of course Stone at the Knights (they've arguably airbrushed the whole Tinkler era, not just Stone) and finally Seibold at the Broncos. Not to say Wayne was responsible for those guys all being appointed, but there certainly is something uncanny about the way he gets immediately followed by some pretty ordinary Coaches.

Certainly doesn't bode too well for Jason Demetriou and Souths at this stage.

JD at Souths will be interesting, it's the first time I'm aware of where Bennett and the club are both working to a long-term succession plan.

 

[Kimlo]

Well first there was Henjak at the Broncos, then Price at the Dragons, then of course Stone at the Knights (they've arguably airbrushed the whole Tinkler era, not just Stone) and finally Seibold at the Broncos. Not to say Wayne was responsible for those guys all being appointed, but there certainly is something uncanny about the way he gets immediately followed by some pretty ordinary Coaches.

Certainly doesn't bode too well for Jason Demetriou and Souths at this stage.

Yeah but most coaches are shit so it's not like it's unusual to be followed by a bad coach. There's so few who can make good NRL coaches that it would be extremely unlikely for a good coach to be followed by a good coach.

 

[Huge]

Mate, yes you did take issue with @Unbreakable's opinion but as I see it, you didn't critique his opinion all. Instead, you basically lampooned him (not cool mate) for having an opinion because it was different to yours, on grounds which for mine, disqualifies most of us from having any opinion on here.

And for mine, you in fact did dispute his right to have an opinion, in this case, because you assert he wasn't an ex-international FB. As I see it, your argument was fallacious, an appeal to authority, one which you conveniently avoid when you criticise Milford and Seibold unless of course you a NRL level 5/8, NRL level coach and qualified dietician, in which case we are indeed privileged to have you on board.

Not because it was different but because it is ludicrous to suggest he could teach Boyd how to best play fullback. Unbreakable suggests, by his criticism and teachings that he is a better judge of the requirements for fullback play.

He goes further than that though. He suggests an improvement (in his own self appointed expert opinion) that Boyd should have employed.
That for me is utterly ridiculous. The inference of course being that Boyd hadn't thought of it.

I don't give a flying **** that unbreakable has a different opinion for everyone is entitled to one and has the right to express one. It's not a requirement to be an exPM to pass comment on the current PM or the same for a current state premier.

Appeal to authority, that's a stretch because I'm not making a claim. I do claim that Boyd was in a better position than unbreakable and has the experience to decide the best course of action at the time and place.

When a top level coach( even some of them may not know), current or ex top level fullback offers constructive criticism of that single event and it agrees with Unbreakable's assessment then I will apologize and be suitably chastised.

Until then, it's twaddle.

 

[Viti]

Not because it was different but because it is ludicrous to suggest he could teach Boyd how to best play fullback. Unbreakable suggests, by his criticism and teachings that he is a better judge of the requirements for fullback play.

He goes further than that though. He suggests an improvement (in his own self appointed expert opinion) that Boyd should have employed.
That for me is utterly ridiculous. The inference of course being that Boyd hadn't thought of it.

I don't give a flying **** that unbreakable has a different opinion for everyone is entitled to one and has the right to express one. It's not a requirement to be an exPM to pass comment on the current PM or the same for a current state premier.

Appeal to authority, that's a stretch because I'm not making a claim. I do claim that Boyd was in a better position than unbreakable and has the experience to decide the best course of action at the time and place.

When a top level coach( even some of them may not know), current or ex top level fullback offers constructive criticism of that single event and it agrees with Unbreakable's assessment then I will apologize and be suitably chastised.

Until then, it's twaddle.

Did he say he knew more about being a fullback though?

The post he was replying to said you were at a loss for what people expected Boyd to do so Unbreakable offered an option.

 

[Huge]

Did he say he knew more about being a fullback though?

The post he was replying to said you were at a loss for what people expected Boyd to do so Unbreakable offered an option.

And that's fine too. I don't agree with him but I'm sure others do. As I've said, he's entitled to reply and entitled to his opinion however unqualified that opinion is. I simply point out that DB knows all that, has known that for decades and in his expert opinion, for that is his field of expertise he doubtless considered all the possible actions whilst on the run.

I'm sure DB saw he had two attackers moving away from him and no matter his choice he was on a hiding to nothing. I doubt any fullback, alive or from a bygone time could have stopped a try being scored in that situation. Like any fullback would do DB made a committed decision to cover the move away from him and had he chosen to slow down the attackers would simply have drifted further away.

In that scenario DB may well have reached the ball carrier who would simply have shovelled the ball on. With perfect hindsight that MAY have made the scoring a fraction harder(possible fumble) but DB had a mere second or two to sum up what took Unbreakable a long time to write. That's a long time by comparison I mean.

Nevermind that DB knew the game was long gone and the Roosters already had racked up 52 points.

You all can make it a big deal if you want but I think it to be less important than a steaming pile of horse shit.

 

[1910]

Well first there was Henjak at the Broncos, then Price at the Dragons, then of course Stone at the Knights (they've arguably airbrushed the whole Tinkler era, not just Stone) and finally Seibold at the Broncos. Not to say Wayne was responsible for those guys all being appointed, but there certainly is something uncanny about the way he gets immediately followed by some pretty ordinary Coaches.

Certainly doesn't bode too well for Jason Demetriou and Souths at this stage.

McCarthy at Souths- Second in 1980 and lost the grand final by two, won the minor premiership in 1981 and the premiership with seconds to go and 1982 lost the grand final to Wynnum and 1983 came third.

Sheens at the Raiders too had huge success.

 

[Kooly87]

McCarthy at Souths- Second in 1980 and lost the grand final by two, won the minor premiership in 1981 and the premiership with seconds to go and 1982 lost the grand final to Wynnum and 1983 came third.

Sheens at the Raiders too had huge success.

Maybe it's a talent he's only developed over the last quarter/half century then.