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It's hard to get mad at the guy who's taken us from crayons to perfume, but we need to get ready for graduation soon.
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I think it had less to do with effort and resilience, and more to the fact we can't tackle (too many arm grabs), have no line speed and produce too many errors.Walters (from last night's presser):
“I’m not nervous about making the finals. Even after the disappointment of this, I have a lot of faith in this group and what they can do. I’m expecting a good reaction from our fellas next week. I’m quite surprised with the result, the guys have worked hard, but we didn’t have the resilience to stop the Storm. Every week you learn about yourselves and we are learning every week. We have to get on things, we still have two more games to go and we have to do our best to fight back next week.”
Adam Reynolds:
“We were right in it in the first part of the game, we just couldn’t stop the momentum, it was pretty disappointing. e have to look forward and use that disappointment as motivation. You feel sick in the changerooms with a performance like that. We can bounce back, there’s two weeks to go, we need to bounce back and I’m sure we will. I am hungry to turn things around and get the side back on track.”
Better to watch it yourself:
Broncos: Round 23
Adam Reynolds and Kevin Walters chat to the media after their Round 23 clash with the Stormwww.nrl.com
All of this seems to be things we should be able to improve through training/coaching.
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I suspect the arm grabs are more to do with being plum tuckered than how they've been trained. Hughes was able to step his way right through our defensive line.
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He replaced Capewell when he went off injured
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For those shitting on ARey, he can't do much when the forwards are conceding 80m sets straight after a 15 minute break...
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I dunno, from pretty early on Hughes, Munster, Smith, etc were bouncing/breaking a lot of tackles. I just eanted someone to run at them and smash them.
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Yea also no forward made over 100m... maybe that was possession a bit, but not much you can do with that.
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Man, what a shit show. My hatred for Storm and their holier then thou fans intensifies every week. I will never forget ‘06 when we beat them despite their cheating ways and I’ll keep going years after year until we start smashing them again and their fans go and follow someone else, probably The.
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Yes, the Melbourne blood bin had way too many vacancies.
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James, pathetic in defence.
Staggs, jumper grabbing.
Rikki, jumper grabbing.
Jensen, jumper grabbing.
3/4 of the tries could have been stopped if someone when in low and hard. Instead they were all shrugged off. Half the performances last night wouldn't even get a start in Q Cup.
66 missed tackles is appaling, but the worst part about it - those missed tackles were majority where our guys were already engaged in a tackles and just fell off or got shrugged.
Staggs, jumper grabbing.
Rikki, jumper grabbing.
Jensen, jumper grabbing.
3/4 of the tries could have been stopped if someone when in low and hard. Instead they were all shrugged off. Half the performances last night wouldn't even get a start in Q Cup.
66 missed tackles is appaling, but the worst part about it - those missed tackles were majority where our guys were already engaged in a tackles and just fell off or got shrugged.
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Payne Haas is the biggest problem on the field in terms of allowing teams to just role up field, he's an absolute pillow defensively.
You could look at his stats on NRL.com and be mistaken in to thinking he's actually got a decent work rate defensively, but it's attrocious.
NRL.com count every single tackle a player makes, including 3rd man in / flops. Fox Sports only count genuine tackles where the player does something to assist in effecting the tackle.
Haas last night -
NRL.com - 22 tackles
Fox Sports - 10 tackles
10 genuine tackles in 52 minutes of football for someone of the calibre of Haas. That's absolutely disgraceful. For reference, that's the lowest count of any Bronco last night outside of the 1, 2, 5 & 7.
You could look at his stats on NRL.com and be mistaken in to thinking he's actually got a decent work rate defensively, but it's attrocious.
NRL.com count every single tackle a player makes, including 3rd man in / flops. Fox Sports only count genuine tackles where the player does something to assist in effecting the tackle.
Haas last night -
NRL.com - 22 tackles
Fox Sports - 10 tackles
10 genuine tackles in 52 minutes of football for someone of the calibre of Haas. That's absolutely disgraceful. For reference, that's the lowest count of any Bronco last night outside of the 1, 2, 5 & 7.
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The total lack of line speed gets me. Watch all the good teams get up fast and early. We were just standing back waiting for them to come to us. If you fix one thing Kev, fix this.
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With an even playing field we still wouldn't win, but the 60 points is not on our players, it's on the refs.
I'll get bagged for this, fair enough, but it's the same bullshit that we copped in Origin II. They ran away with it and we **appeared** to give up because we were utterly exhausted.
Coates clearly knocks on when the replay was shown for the Captains Challenge. Call it incompetence, call it deliberate rorting, it doesn't matter, it shouldn't happen but it does in front of our eyes and we are expected to accept it. Instead of building pressure, not necessarily scoring but at the very least making them tackle and fatiguing them, they are undeservedly marched up the field.
We are given a 15 metre "10" and then we wonder why we have no line speed. We have to run an extra 10 metres PER PLAY so not only are we barely getting back the 10 (15) in time for the next play, it is impossible to have line speed. We fatigue quickly and easily concede metres. At the game, you will see this if you look, but you can't see it on the TV unless you see where the ruck is and then see where the ref is holding the line once the play moves to a point the camera shows it.
They are allowed a short 10 so of course they have an aggressive line speed, and yet they still leave early (granted, not Panthers early) and we have no momentum or space. We kick from in our 40 while they kick near our own 20 almost every set.
When the game is still a contest, Coates knocks it on again. It is not called. We are already fatigued and yet we are denied an opportunity to get them to do some tackling. It is no wonder they are able to get massive minutes from a 120kg prop out on the edges, he has not been fatigued and he is able to run riot, and the fact that Bellamy had the arrogance to play him there suggests that he know his team are going to get the refs favour when it comes to possession and field position.
They have literally twice as much ball as us, they have all the field position, I didn't see a single player of ours give up last night, I was them desperately trying to compete against an opposition that have a full tank of fuel while we are on fumes.
Reynolds can do zero in a situation like last night. Errors like not finding touch are unforgivable, we know this, but if people think he may have lost his spark, consider how well looked after Souths were by the NRL, and the absolute shit that they routinely spit at us, can you blame him? He's not dumb, neither is Ikin or Walters, so they can't say anything publicly or give the players excuses, but you sure as **** know that behind the scenes they are seething.
I'll get bagged for this, fair enough, but it's the same bullshit that we copped in Origin II. They ran away with it and we **appeared** to give up because we were utterly exhausted.
Coates clearly knocks on when the replay was shown for the Captains Challenge. Call it incompetence, call it deliberate rorting, it doesn't matter, it shouldn't happen but it does in front of our eyes and we are expected to accept it. Instead of building pressure, not necessarily scoring but at the very least making them tackle and fatiguing them, they are undeservedly marched up the field.
We are given a 15 metre "10" and then we wonder why we have no line speed. We have to run an extra 10 metres PER PLAY so not only are we barely getting back the 10 (15) in time for the next play, it is impossible to have line speed. We fatigue quickly and easily concede metres. At the game, you will see this if you look, but you can't see it on the TV unless you see where the ruck is and then see where the ref is holding the line once the play moves to a point the camera shows it.
They are allowed a short 10 so of course they have an aggressive line speed, and yet they still leave early (granted, not Panthers early) and we have no momentum or space. We kick from in our 40 while they kick near our own 20 almost every set.
When the game is still a contest, Coates knocks it on again. It is not called. We are already fatigued and yet we are denied an opportunity to get them to do some tackling. It is no wonder they are able to get massive minutes from a 120kg prop out on the edges, he has not been fatigued and he is able to run riot, and the fact that Bellamy had the arrogance to play him there suggests that he know his team are going to get the refs favour when it comes to possession and field position.
They have literally twice as much ball as us, they have all the field position, I didn't see a single player of ours give up last night, I was them desperately trying to compete against an opposition that have a full tank of fuel while we are on fumes.
Reynolds can do zero in a situation like last night. Errors like not finding touch are unforgivable, we know this, but if people think he may have lost his spark, consider how well looked after Souths were by the NRL, and the absolute shit that they routinely spit at us, can you blame him? He's not dumb, neither is Ikin or Walters, so they can't say anything publicly or give the players excuses, but you sure as **** know that behind the scenes they are seething.
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Hopefully no-one jumped the fence and went onto the field.....?
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FMD....c'mon man!
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Ditto, although i think Staggs has more potential to turn it around and actually be worth the money he is on.
Still, too little too late, and after the ass whooping we got last night, our highest paid blokes and those demanding more money are the ones that need to be held accountable.
