PRE-GAME Round 9 - Broncos vs Bulldogs

[Midean]

Money is so irrelevant, let's be honest. I'm sick of people using money as like an extra net-negative against someone's form. It's not Milford and Boyd's fault the club paid them what they did, let's just focus on what they're actually objectively offering to the side every week and not how much money is on their fortnightly cheque.

Milford's stats aren't good. He's not playing with confidence, he's not demanding the footy enough from the hooker, he's not supporting broken play enough, he's not trailing offloads enough, he's not defending well... *pause*... but he's still a better player than Boyd that unequivocally offers more every single week, even when he decides to be a spectator. Milford has more attacking prowess in his fat little finger than Boyd (in 2020) has in his entire body. There's no comparison. If we want to start winning football games we need Milford in the team and playing somewhere close to his potential. You simply can't say the same for Boyd at the moment. What does a blinder for Darius in 2020 look like? 95 running metres and 25 tackles with no errors? We could literally find a reserve grader from Mt Isa who could offer at least 80% of what Darius does at the moment.

I see the only way we will see eye to eye on this is to drop both of them haha.

 

[Renegade]

A win this week will just mask the deeper issues.
A loss would see the coach gone and/or mass player changes.
Yes we all thought that post the titans loss, but I think milford and Boyd are one loss away from a legitimate axe.
A win will probably see those players safe for the rest of 2020.

yeah my thoughts exactly, but i just can't bring myself to say I hope we lose.

 

[holdzy]

I see the only way we will see eye to eye on this is to drop both of them haha.

That's what needs to happen. Milford needs a rocket up him and Boyd just needs to go.

 

[JungleBoogie]

If Staggs plays it is essentially Seibold's best team minus Fifita. If we lose to the last place team with a backrower missing there really isn't any excuse.

 

[Broncapz]

Players with more penalties than Boyd - Haas, Milford, Lodge, Carrigan.
Players with more errors than Boyd - Coates, Oates, Isaako, Farnworth.
Players with more handling errors than Boyd - Coates, Isaako, Farnworth
Players with more ineffective tackles than Boyd - Croft, Flegler, Luke, Haas,

Coates can at least score and provides a tonne of speed and xfactor. The rest of these stats are pure dribble since none of them are competing for a centre spot. All these other players at least provide something else (kicking, attack, post contact meters or line breaks) as well.

Boyd is retiring next year and it would at least be good to start building some edge combinations then wasting it on Darius 'Mediocre At Best' Boyd.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

If Staggs plays it is essentially Seibold's best team minus Fifita. If we lose to the last place team with a backrower missing there really isn't any excuse.

Is essentially another word for not at all really?

 

[Galah]

Can we talk about how our forwards are getting monstered in attack and defence? It’s making our backs look a lot worse.

 

[Kyall]

That's 1 or 2 more line breaks more then what we are making atm.

Why does everyone think Fifita is going to make such a big difference. He will probably make a couple of breaks but we are so badly coached and clueless it will make no difference.

 

[Financeguy]

If Staggs plays it is essentially Seibold's best team minus Fifita. If we lose to the last place team with a backrower missing there really isn't any excuse.

Not that i think missing these players excuse Seibs or the way we have performed but he would also have Turpin, Lodge, Bird and possibly Offa in his 'best' team available

 

[Thelmus]

Can we talk about how our forwards are getting monstered in attack and defence? It’s making our backs look a lot worse.

The real problem is discipline, across the board. Everything stems from it. We are getting too many 6 again calls against us and two much lost possession early in tackle counts.
Take those 2 things away and we win more than we lose regardless. Our forwards will then have more energy from tackling less, and our backs more opportunity.
Combine that with a simple strategy that gets us up the other end of the park and puts pressure on our opponents and these "duds" will also start to look better.
I'll give siebolds this much: it's hard to hold players accountable when their understudy isn't even playing football, let alone playing well.
But just the same, it's so important to make players accountable and offer opportunity. Even so we must also be patient when we do make changes, as those new players will be "learning on the job". A player like Nui is a good example. He has made some pretty big errors, but has also shown initiative. The same must be applied to the likes of farnsworth playing centre. It is really the worst possible time to be struggling like we are, and that is the only thing I can say in siebold's defence.
But quite frankly, change must come.

 

[McHunt]

Money is so irrelevant, let's be honest.

 

[Unbreakable]

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(In the context of picking our best 17 every week)

Fans tend to use money against certain players as if it's making them objectively less valuable on the field.

"Anthony Milford is on $1m, but he certainly doesn't play like it! Let's play Tyson Gamble instead, at least he plays to his pay cheque!" - Bronxnation, I'm sure.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

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Is that Jim Morrison behind the hand ?

 

[Rico]

A lot of suggestions that change must come in the form of players and coach
bottom line is AS isn’t going anywhere this season and we’ve got stuff all in back up to the spuds that are stinking it up apart from a few rookies.
not many suggestions in way of workable replacements. Carn fellas, let’s get the pre game back on track.

 

[theshed]

Brent Read article this morning confirming a few things -

Lodge won't return, Staggs only has to get through training this week to play on the weekend, Farnworth will move to the left wing, Boyd, Milford, Croft safe. Isaako and Oates fighting for the last bench spot.

this is awful awful news.

 

[Sproj]

A lot of suggestions that change must come in the form of players and coach
bottom line is AS isn’t going anywhere this season and we’ve got stuff all in back up to the spuds that are stinking it up apart from a few rookies.
not many suggestions in way of workable replacements. Carn fellas, let’s get the pre game back on track.

We don't know what we're talking about, we're perfect for this team's pre-game.

 

[Gaz]

and so it continues.....

 

[pagey]

1 isaako
2 Farnsworth
3 Nui
4 staggs / Arthur's
5 Coates
6 milf
7 dearden
8 flegler
9 luke
10 haas
11 Glenn
12 teo
13 TPJ
14 Croft
15 Oates
16 carrigan
17 Kennedy