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If any of our quicks go down we're pretty much cooked anyway. MMarsh and Stoinis aren't much better than a part timer like Wade or Cartwright with the ball, Marsh was bowling at about 120km/h in the UAE with absolutely no movement. Both of them are not threatening in the slightest.

EDIT: Pick another out and out bowler if we NEED the 4th option. It's not like Stoinis or Marsh are lightyears better than, say, Pattinson with the bat. Drop Paine as well if we have to as he sucks big time as a batsman (no tons in over 10 years and counting). 6 and 7 are walking wickets if we go into the series with Marsh and Paine, so at least pick someone who can provide something with the ball.
The problem is that the quicks are basically also the best batsmen. How about this for EXTREMELY left field...play Pattinson at 6.
 

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Great post, thanks for the rundown.



But shouldn't Cricket Australia learn their lesson and avoid going with untested flakey players?

Let me rephrase the question, when was the last time that type of selection worked out well and won Australia a test series?

That isn't a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely curious.
Been a few but not immediate success- Waugh 11 games for Blues, he had 605 runs at 43. Healy had 7 games for Queensland.

Renshaw was similar numbers to Waugh- 11 games at 41.
 

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If any of our quicks go down we're pretty much cooked anyway. MMarsh and Stoinis aren't much better than a part timer like Wade or Cartwright with the ball, Marsh was bowling at about 120km/h in the UAE with absolutely no movement. Both of them are not threatening in the slightest.

EDIT: Pick another out and out bowler if we NEED the 4th option. It's not like Stoinis or Marsh are lightyears better than, say, Pattinson with the bat. Drop Paine as well if we have to as he sucks big time as a batsman (no tons in over 10 years and counting). 6 and 7 are walking wickets if we go into the series with Marsh and Paine, so at least pick someone who can provide something with the ball.
Paine hasn't scored a 100 in 10 years? You left out he was injured for 9 of those years.

To put his injuries in perspective Australia played 78 Tests from his debut to his recall last summer. Smith made his debut the same game and played 53 of them. 2596 days between Tests.

But he hasn't scored a 100.

Paine has been sensational behind the stumps and his leadership has been tremendous. Loved him getting at the guys for celebrating a draw. Great leader.
 

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Philippe he will get a 100 tomorrow. Something about him, organised in his batting.
 
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Harris now has 341 runs at 170 average this season.

26, 250* and 65 from three games. He's batted 13.5 hours for two dismissals.
 

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Mitch Marsh with 100, rofl.

I swear him and his brother only score runs when their spot is on the line, then do nothing when they actually get in the team. That'll be enough for him to retain his spot for the Summer.
 

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I'm beginning to think the first test side will look something like:

1. Harris
2. S.Marsh
3. Khawaja/Handscomb
4. Head
5. M.Marsh
6. Lehmann
7. Paine (c)
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Lyon
11. Hazlewood

That batting line up, yuck.
 

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If we're going to go young I think it should be like..

1. Harris
2. Renshaw
3. Khawaja
4. Handscomb
5. Lehmann
6. M.Marsh
7. Paine

S.Marsh shouldn't be anywhere near the team, Head hasn't done enough to retain his spot. I don't dislike Harris over Finch, he's more of a specialist opener in the longer format and is obviously younger & in better form. If we wanted to keep Finch in the team we could secure the middle order a little more and put him at 5 instead of Lehmann. That mightn't be a bad option.
 

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If we're going to go young I think it should be like..

1. Harris
2. Renshaw
3. Khawaja
4. Handscomb
5. Lehmann
6. M.Marsh
7. Paine

S.Marsh shouldn't be anywhere near the team, Head hasn't done enough to retain his spot. I don't dislike Harris over Finch, he's more of a specialist opener in the longer format and is obviously younger & in better form. If we wanted to keep Finch in the team we could secure the middle order a little more and put him at 5 instead of Lehmann. That mightn't be a bad option.
I mostly agree with you to be honest, just putting up the side I think the selectors will go with.
 

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My side based on the current performances and gut feel:

1. Khawaja (Maxwell if Khawaja is injured)
2. Finch
3. Patterson
4. Handscomb
5. Lehmann
6. Paine
7. Pattinson
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Lyon
11. Hazlewood

The batting is going to be terrible no matter who you put out there.
 

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Another 50 for Patterson today, that's 3x 50's in a row.

He seems to have a big issue converting them for whatever reason.. 26x 50's and 5x 100's in FC
Hence the poor man's Joe Root comparison. That said, that sort of consistency is being screamed out from the Australian side that just cannot avoid collapses.
 

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Big day for Sangha and Edwards today.

Both first 50's yesterday, Edwards was sensational during the One Day comp and now is starting to back it up- could have his first 100 in game three- Sangha already has a FC 100 against England last summer.

Sangha showed plenty of courage, coming off a pair and they promoted him NSW were in trouble too. Very calm batting.
 
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