Should Mam be sacked?

[Mr Fourex]

Having just watched the new interview with the mum, I actually thought she was being quite reasonable.
She stated that her daughter is recovering well however, will see a surgeon in two weeks. Without knowing the full details, I'm going to assume that is probably just precautionary to ensure that the fracture is healing well and hopefully, won't impair her in the long term. She also said that she is relevaed that Ezra has finally been charged.

They did mention that the family has engaged their own legal representation which is understandable given the circunstances. If Ezra's legal team are smart, once the hearing in December is over, they should try and solve this privately before it ever sees the inside of a civil court - and if financial compensation is paid, have the family sign an NDA.

If Ezra's team is smart they'll take any up front lump sum offered......quickly.
He hasn't got a leg to stand on.
Investigating/crucifying injured parties as witnesses..... won't end well for Ezra
or the Broncos.

 

[Mr Fourex]

You can’t just pay a ‘900k player’ $450k on a whim…

But you can shit can a player for fun

Its not a whim......he's fucked up. ?

 

[Jason Simmons]

Refer previous comments from @Jason Simmons they have a blood test, because he was taken to hospital, they can get a forensic medical or something done on the test to give an assessment on whether the level of drugs in his system may have impaired his driving.

Drugs impair your fine motor skills, regardless of ability to mask said impairment. That is the starting point of all legislation relating to being under the influence of something and driving a vehicle, horse, bicycle, whatever.

Alcohol has known effects on the body regardless of alleged “tolerance” to alcohol (usually ego related) and is eliminated from the body at a more or less consistent rate. Hence why there are various percentage levels for alcohol. 0.05%, 0.150% and so on. Medical people can describe in detail the medical effects on the body when it is affected by Acetaldehyde (metabolised byproduct of ethanol) these effects are consistent and occur independently of so-called “tolerance” so courts can be assured of the reliability of such evidence.

Illicit ‘dangerous’ drugs such as Cocaine, Methylamphetamine and so on however do not. Not as consistently or reliably as Ethanol. They also widely vary in chemical composition, strength (purity) and other factors.

This is why there is an offence for ‘driving with a relevant drug present”. Because medically speaking it is nigh on impossible to determine any reliable level of impairment for ‘low’ levels of such drugs. But such drugs ‘do’ cause impairment and so legislatures have decided to make driving under such circumstances illegal, albeit it is a very minor offence and punished far less heavily than even low ranged drink driving offences in the main.

However, when a blood sample is taken to determine quantities of such drugs in a person’s system, the toxicology results that come back in the form of an evidentiary certificate, list quantities and percentages of detected drugs present.

To determine whether the detected level of drugs in the system would result in the suspect being deemed “under the influence” the police would (or should) have sought an “expert” medical opinion from a forensic medical officer (FMO).

The drug certificate would have been provided, along with basic information on the suspect’s age, gender, height / weight, history and the observed level of indicia (how munted) the suspect was would (or should) also have been provided by the investigating police. Such might have included - manner of driving, slurred (or otherwise) speech, any conversations held (aka what was said) fixed / dilated pupils, flushed appearance, behaviour / acts at the scene, steadiness on their feet, etc.

Add all that together and you get an evidentiary basis to charge (or not) for ’under the influence’.

 

[broncsgoat]

Its not a whim......he's fucked up. ?

Someone else back me up here??

 

[BroncsFan]

Hopefully the Broncos do their due dilligence investigating her claims, if she's making them up, she shouldn't be paid a cent in any civil lawsuit.

I don't think the broncos will do shit... it will be up to Ezra's lawyers.

If Broncos do something other than offering support to Ezra, etc. then it could be breaching the salary cap.

 

[broncsgoat]

They’re sticklers for players being signed for what they’re worth… we set his market value at 900k when we signed it… offering him 450k to stay on wouldn’t be allowed but eliminating his contract entirely would

 

[Jason Simmons]

,.....everything about your system is fucken ridiculous......no offence.

It’s not mine. It’s ours…

The only thing more ridiculous than the system, is the process one has to go through to try and effect legislative change.

 

[BroncsFan]

and conversely if you were an innocent civilian and this accident/opportunity came up....who wouldn't among us wanna squeeze as much juice as you could out of that lemon....??

it won't kill Ezra........

Depends... the lawyer fees to file and resolve the civil case and then their commission of whatever compensation comes from it, might not make it worthwhile to bother going through all the hassle... especially if it's just a nobody.

In this instance it's a high profile person and the victim is likely looking to settle out of court... probably has Shine lawyers or whoever are the ones offering no win no fee... although the fees will come if she wins on top of the commission.

Would want to hope she wins though, because Ezra likely has a bigger wallet than her and you'd assume better lawyers... does she have to pay some of Ezra's legal fees if she loses?

 

[McHunt]

Mam statement:

“I understand the seriousness of the situation. I understand the importance in myself standing up to take responsibility for my actions. I will co-operate with the legal process to come. I also understand my responsibilities as a role model in the community and I’m prepared to work hard to live up to those expectations going forward. “​

Mam’s manager Nash Dawson:

“I can confirm that everyday Ezra has inquired about the wellbeing of all parties involved. He understands the magnitude of the situation and has expressed he does not want to shy away from what has happened. Instead he wants to stand up and take accountability when he’s able.”​

 

[Jason Simmons]

I'm surprised its that quick knowing QLD health. My daughter waited over 12 months to have a tumour removed!

It’ll be private and paid for by CTP…

 

[theshed]

Mam’s manager Nash Dawson:

“I can confirm that everyday Ezra has inquired about the wellbeing of all parties involved.​

Mam: “how am I doing today?”
Manager: “still fucked”

 

[Mr Fourex]

Mam statement:

“I understand the seriousness of the situation. I understand the importance in myself standing up to take responsibility for my actions. I will co-operate with the legal process to come. I also understand my responsibilities as a role model in the community and I’m prepared to work hard to live up to those expectations going forward. “​

Mam’s manager Nash Dawson:

“I can confirm that everyday Ezra has inquired about the wellbeing of all parties involved. He understands the magnitude of the situation and has expressed he does not want to shy away from what has happened. Instead he wants to stand up and take accountability when he’s able.”​

Alright then.......well

get ready to bend over Ezra.

 

[BroncsFan]

Why can't we.... RE reduce his contract?

Its either that or the sack Ezra?

At some point Ezra would have to accept the revised contract though, which he doesn't have to, because there's likely nothing in his current contract that says "if he brings the club or the game into disrepute the club can determine if his contract is up for re-negotiation."

Wording like that is in there that allow him to be sacked ie the club can decide to terminate the contract, but even if the former wording was in there the re-negotiation aspect would mean he can head out and get offers from the market.

If wording was in there that his salary could just be reduced by some amount based on the indiscretion and without needing his approval... then nobody is signing that contract anyway.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Depends... the lawyer fees to file and resolve the civil case and then their commission of whatever compensation comes from it, might not make it worthwhile to bother going through all the hassle... especially if it's just a nobody.

In this instance it's a person with fame and the victim is likely looking to settle out of court... probably has Shine lawyers or whoever are the ones offering no win no fee... although the fees will come if she wins on top of the commission.

Would want to hope she wins though, because Ezra likely has a bigger wallet than her and you'd assume better lawyers... does she have to pay some of Ezra's legal fees if she loses?

Winner takes it all.....yes she'll have to pay her lawyers. Their fee is already factored into the asking price.
She'll still get a nice kick out of it.
Even if Ezra wasn't a public figure, public liability will cover most of it in that case, and anyone going after someone who's careered into them from oncoming traffic...and if still healthy enough, will enjoy the windfall.

 

[Mr Fourex]

At some point Ezra would have to accept the revised contract though, which he doesn't have to,

No he doesn't have to.

Its either that or the sack though..........?

If the NRL ban him from signing elsewhere (which is in the wind).....
We hold the gold.

 

[BroncsFan]

No he doesn't have to.

Its either that or the sack though..........?

If the NRL ban him from signing elsewhere (which is in the wind).....
We hold the gold.

I don't think the NRL would prevent him from signing elsewhere in that situation... in that instance the indiscretion is apparently so bad that broncos want a lower salary, but they're still happy to keep him at the club?

And if that's the case and he's allowed to play for the broncos at a reduced salary, then that would mean the NRL are happy for him to remain in the comp as well... which would mean they can't ban him from the comp if broncos then decide to sack him because he won't take up the lower deal.

The NRL can't force Ezra to sign a deal that he doesn't want to and the NRLPA sure as hell wouldn't allow it to get that far anyway.

 

[Mr Fourex]

I don't think the NRL would prevent him from signing elsewhere in that situation... in that instance the indiscretion is apparently so bad that broncos want a lower salary, but they're still happy to keep him at the club?

Yes...its called punishment/consequences for actions.....

OK.......call it a fine then. Contract stays in place.

Fine him for being a fuckhead.........(10% of the deal over X years?),
Surely that's in the contract?

 

[BroncsFan]

Yes...its called punishment/consequences for actions.....

OK.......call it a fine then. Contract stays in place.

Fine him for being a fuckhead.........(10% of the deal over X years?),
Surely that's in the contract?

He'll cop a fine... although they have been suspending a heap of it nowadays... but broncos won't get that back on the cap unfortunately.

$85k on the cap isn't much to work with anyway