Six Again Calls

[Organix]

The 6-again call has merit in that it is supposed to prevent the wrestling and slow-down tactics of certain teams. It all falls over though when the calls are used to "manage" the game, and are not called on their individual merit.

How far down the conspiracy hole do you want to go? Think about going from one to two refs. Was it really about saving money? Consider what I've been claiming for a long time - the video ref holds an unprecedented sway over the game, as they are constantly guiding the refs, yet are hidden away and only scrutinised when asked to officially adjudicate something. We don't hear what they are saying the other 98% of the time.

The two ref system had one dedicated to the ruck, which in my opinion would work far better with the 6-again rule, as the rule itself is there to discourage ruck infringements. So who is monitoring these infringements? We saw evidence last night when Deardon was supposedly the victim of an attempted strip - the call came from the video ref, the on-field ref had no idea. So by switching to one ref, the game is able to be managed even further by the video ref - if, like last night, the tacklers are being held down by their shirts in order to milk a 6-again, the on-field ref can only see a slow ruck and calls a 6-again, and us viewers are expected to believe it. Yet, we know the video ref is watching it, and can see exactly what is happening, and does nothing about it.

It's definitely turning me off the NRL. Bring back analog footy.

 

[teampjta]

Hate this rule.

I don’t see how a set restart when your on your own line at 0 being an advantage,

Been saying for a while now, if the nrl are hard set on continuing down this path, I’d tweak it to an advantage and then penalty.

 

[Marty Deutschmann]

The 6-again call has merit in that it is supposed to prevent the wrestling and slow-down tactics of certain teams. It all falls over though when the calls are used to "manage" the game, and are not called on their individual merit.

How far down the conspiracy hole do you want to go? Think about going from one to two refs. Was it really about saving money? Consider what I've been claiming for a long time - the video ref holds an unprecedented sway over the game, as they are constantly guiding the refs, yet are hidden away and only scrutinised when asked to officially adjudicate something. We don't hear what they are saying the other 98% of the time.

The two ref system had one dedicated to the ruck, which in my opinion would work far better with the 6-again rule, as the rule itself is there to discourage ruck infringements. So who is monitoring these infringements? We saw evidence last night when Deardon was supposedly the victim of an attempted strip - the call came from the video ref, the on-field ref had no idea. So by switching to one ref, the game is able to be managed even further by the video ref - if, like last night, the tacklers are being held down by their shirts in order to milk a 6-again, the on-field ref can only see a slow ruck and calls a 6-again, and us viewers are expected to believe it. Yet, we know the video ref is watching it, and can see exactly what is happening, and does nothing about it.

I think it's the opposite.

I see absolutely no logic in bringing in such a momentum changing rule change like the 6 again to pull up ruck infringements then strip the game of a second ref who is literally there to be a close eye on ruck infringements for BOTH teams.

Sides have lost games this year because of attacking players intentionally trapping or literally holding down players and winning 6 agains.

Far too dangerous a change to then also drop the second ref. Devoid of logic

 

[Marty Deutschmann]

This thread started with the hint of "conspiracy".

Of course the "six again rule" is the worst rule ever introduced into the game, for a number of reasons.

And yes, I believe it has been used against the Broncos to manage game results.

Why do I say this confidentally?

Here's a few basic facts:

* The "six again" rule penalty is grossly disproportionate to the "crime"
* It puts incredible power in the hands of the referee with virtually no scrutiny (no TV replays, and no statistics published by the NRL)
* Calls are never questioned by commentators
* Calls can't be challenged with the "captain's challenge"
* Even if statistics were published, they don't tell the story because the true influence of "six again" is WHEN it is given (in the defending teams 20 or on tackle 5)
* The law can easily be used to sway games
* The current political climate is anti-private enterprise. Broncos is the big fish in the Australian sporting world - take the Broncos down and NRL will go down with it. Why was this incredibly flawed and dangerous rule introduced right after the lockdown?

To sum up - this is a highly influential rule, with virtually no checks-and-balances. And I don't believe the above risks are cancelled out by any perceived increase in the quality or speed of the game.

I agree with half of this.

Except all the conspiracy nonsense. I swear half the Broncos fans are Galt earthers the way you all carry on about the media and conspiracies to tank the club.

Wake the **** up.. the Broncos are 100% to blame for all their issues

 

[ZTop]

IMHO the broncos are getting screwed over with the 6 again calls, it's pretty noticeable. But the main responsibility for our poor results has to come from the players and seibolds shit coaching. But it doesn't helped getting fucked over by the refs

 

[TevitaPaperbagJunior]

I agree with half of this.

Except all the conspiracy nonsense. I swear half the Broncos fans are Galt earthers the way you all carry on about the media and conspiracies to tank the club.

Wake the **** up.. the Broncos are 100% to blame for all their issues

I’ve been looking through this forum for days now and I’ve finally found the most intelligent, well thought out, well presented argument on the entire site.
There’s one group to blame for the pathetic results, and it ain’t the refs, NRL, Media or anyone outside of Red Hill. What a shell of a once proud club the Broncos now are. Will glory every return? Who knows, doesn’t look good.

 

[ZTop]

I’ve been looking through this forum for days now and I’ve finally found the most intelligent, well thought out, well presented argument on the entire site.
There’s one group to blame for the pathetic results, and it ain’t the refs, NRL, Media or anyone outside of Red Hill. What a shell of a once proud club the Broncos now are. Will glory every return? Who knows, doesn’t look good.

Who do you actually follow? I guarantee whatever team you go for, they have had worse times

 

[TevitaPaperbagJunior]

Who do you actually follow? I guarantee whatever team you go for, they have had worse times

Please stop trolling me, or I’ll be forced to discuss your name with the administrators.

and NO team is worse than the Broncos right now. this is it, the offical point where the fans can look back and realise it’s all over. We’re just making up numbers now. When the second team arrives in Brisbane the broncos will fade into obscurity. We’ll ride off into the sunset in KIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAS

 

[ZTop]

Please stop trolling me, or I’ll be forced to discuss your name with the administrators.

and NO team is worse than the Broncos right now. this is it, the offical point where the fans can look back and realise it’s all over. We’re just making up numbers now. When the second team arrives in Brisbane the broncos will fade into obscurity. We’ll ride off into the sunset in KIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAS

It's a good thing kias are reasonable cars, 7 year warranty as well. You don't get that with Jack bird do ya

 

[Lockysillegitimatechild]

Please stop trolling me, or I’ll be forced to discuss your name with the administrators.

and NO team is worse than the Broncos right now. this is it, the offical point where the fans can look back and realise it’s all over. We’re just making up numbers now. When the second team arrives in Brisbane the broncos will fade into obscurity. We’ll ride off into the sunset in KIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAS

 

[ivanhungryjak]

Please stop trolling me, or I’ll be forced to discuss your name with the administrators.

and NO team is worse than the Broncos right now. this is it, the offical point where the fans can look back and realise it’s all over. We’re just making up numbers now. When the second team arrives in Brisbane the broncos will fade into obscurity. We’ll ride off into the sunset in KIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAS

 

[Harry Sack]

Please stop trolling me, or I’ll be forced to discuss your name with the administrators.

and NO team is worse than the Broncos right now. this is it, the offical point where the fans can look back and realise it’s all over. We’re just making up numbers now. When the second team arrives in Brisbane the broncos will fade into obscurity. We’ll ride off into the sunset in KIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAS

How long you been following the Broncos for Sugar Tits? Glad to have you aboard

HOLLLLLLLDDDDENNNN!!!

 

[Organix]

Hate this rule.

I don’t see how a set restart when your on your own line at 0 being an advantage,

Been saying for a while now, if the nrl are hard set on continuing down this path, I’d tweak it to an advantage and then penalty.

Didn't Darius just lie down and complain after the ref called 6 again on the first at broncos try line against the Roosters until the ref actually blew the penalty? Was actually pretty smart.

 

[DigitalDaz]

I agree with half of this.

Except all the conspiracy nonsense. I swear half the Broncos fans are Galt earthers the way you all carry on about the media and conspiracies to tank the club.

Wake the **** up.. the Broncos are 100% to blame for all their issues

Sorry ... I've seen to many bogus six again calls this year - timed to put maximum pressure on the team.

No scrutiny. No questions. No investigation. No commentary.

Wake up.

 

[BRC088]

Can someone link me to an official NRL rule with regards to 6 again calls please, I can't find it in the NRL Laws & Interpretations 2020. I just want to know how it is supposed to be policed.

 

[Big Pete]

Can someone link me to an official NRL rule with regards to 6 again calls please, I can't find it in the NRL Laws & Interpretations 2020. I just want to know how it is supposed to be policed.

This article from the official website covers it.

Sin bin risk for repeat offenders: How six-again rule will work

How the six-again rule will operate: Sin bin a threat for players who continually transgress.

www.nrl.com

 

[BRC088]

Thanks, I was more looking for something official like an addendum to the rule book etc.

That article does raise a query over the strip though, if a hand on the ball is an infringement. How are the tacklers allowed to grapple around the ball, then call the other players off but fail to strip the ball not a 6 again infringement?

 

[Big Pete]

Thanks, I was more looking for something official like an addendum to the rule book etc.

That's the best you're going to get, the NRL only releases their laws and interpretations at the start of the year and rarely keep it upgraded.

As far as hand on the ball, I believe they're referring to the 'release' phase of the tackle where players are meant to let go.