#Talkupthegame or: Kent whining about being shunned again

[I bleed Maroon]

Lol @ Kent talking about "maturity". How much maturity does he show when he regularly goes after Bennett on NRL 360 for clearly personal reasons? It's not hard to understand why the players and coaches don't want a bar of the media when you actually get down in the dirt and see how they're treated. The papers don't give a shit about the games health, they only care about themselves and their own dying breed.

 

[Sproj]

Well in that freeze frame of the video there, she is trying really hard not to laugh.

 

[Browny]

The media forget their not the gestapo. They don’t have to speak to them

 

[Super Freak]

Josh Reynolds made a good point on 360.

He said that players are very reluctant to talk to the media because they are afraid that what they say will be misconstrued and twisted.

And it’s true, there are journalists that will twist what someone says to make it sound different just to get clicks. So of course the players are going to stop talking to journos.

 

[jarro65]

Josh Reynolds made a good point on 360.

He said that players are very reluctant to talk to the media because they are afraid that what they say will be misconstrued and twisted.

And it’s true, there are journalists that will twist what someone says to make it sound different just to get clicks. So of course the players are going to stop talking to journos.

I'd suggest most coaches feel that way also [emoji53]

 

[Sproj]

I would love for players, admin and coaches to give the ones who make stuff up a complete shunning. If they only talked to the very few who try to be objective, there would be a massive media tantrum and would force the media to either dump the losers or pull their heads in.

 

[ivanhungryjak]

The NRL has a big problem
Ben Ikin12:00AM April 28, 2018
Media coverage keeps the ball bouncing, why doesn’t the NRL see that?

Professional rugby league players in this country have never earned more money.
This is because broadcasters pay an exorbitant amount to telecast the games in which they play.
It therefore stands to reason that these players should feel mightily compelled to work with the broadcasters to promote the code.
You would also think a governing body that receives billions of dollars from broadcasters should be treating the media better than it ever has. Unfortunately for rugby league it’s still a struggle on both fronts.
Welcome to the wonderful world of the NRL, where the extremely well paid still want more, and media partners are called doomsayers by those who accept their billions.
Two weekends ago The Daily Telegraph’s Phil Rothfield fired off a controversial tweet citing his disappointment with the current state of the game.
“Rugby league is now a shit game,” he tweeted.
Rothfield has since expressed regret at his choice of language, but his view has remained consistent all season: the extra penalties being awarded this year have diminished the game’s entertainment value. Somewhere across town NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg happened across Rothfield’s tweet and decided it appropriate to respond, and in doing so, labelled journalists who criticise rugby league as “crisis merchants”.
If Greenberg had taken the time to read the large number of replies from fans who disagreed with Rothfield perhaps he wouldn’t have launched his fanciful social media strategy, [HASHTAG]#nrltalkthegameup[/HASHTAG].
The only thing the CEO proved is that the NRL has a very naive view of how the rugby league news cycle best functions, and how it should participate.
The other disappointing consequence of [HASHTAG]#nrltalkthegameup[/HASHTAG] was leaving the players convinced that evil journalists are to blame for any and all negativity around rugby league.
Apparently reporting on players breaking curfew to visit a strip club is much worse than actually breaking curfew to visit a strip club!
Now in case you missed it, late last year the Rugby League Players Association negotiated a collective bargaining agreement on the basis that the players are genuine partners in the game.
“Give us a guaranteed 29 per cent of total revenue, and we’ll work with the game, to grow the game.”
The concept seemed altruistic enough, but we now know it was mostly a negotiation tactic to realise a very profitable outcome.
Since the agreement was signed off there have been multiple examples of players demanding extra cash to play the role of “partner”.
It’s clear there needs to be a shift in thinking.
Two years ago I was asked by an NRL club to conduct media training with a group of players.
Instead of focusing on the mechanics of dealing with journalists, I chose to brief the players on how the rugby league news cycle comes together. I thought if the players better understood the process they could more confidently and regularly engage in it.
I opened the session with two videos. The first was a UFC media conference where several fighters were talking up their next bouts. Conor McGregor was the star, no surprises there, but the entire media conference made for enthralling television.
Then I made the players watch two rugby league coaches doing their compulsory pre-match interviews before a World Club Challenge game in England. The second video was far from enthralling, I could tell by the number of players who fell asleep.
The lesson was simple enough and an insight into the changing media landscape.
What was once a news cycle based on the public’s interest had shifted towards what the public finds most interesting. In the case of rugby league, the game is no longer the sole star; people also buy the narrative wrapped around the game. If that narrative is bland, people will turn their attention to something more engaging, and the last thing you want in a race for eyeballs is people choosing other forms of entertainment.
So what makes for an engaging narrative? Exaggerated contrast.
Winners and losers, heroes and villains, superpowers and lightweights, favourites and underdogs; in every case one breathes life into the other.
The hero means nothing without the villain and there’s no victory like an underdog victory.
Broadcasters, newspapers, radio stations, they all need to realise a return on the investment they make in sport, and it’s these contrasting characters and outcomes that sell papers and get ratings. Consistent gushing praise on its own is not the answer, despite the fact Todd Greenberg wants everyone to [HASHTAG]#nrltalkthegameup[/HASHTAG].
The media’s narrative has to model what’s taking place around water coolers across the country: debate, tribalism, bias, politics, indifference, all of it.
Johnathan Thurston should be the next Immortal; Johnathan Thurston has gone a season too long.
Matt Lodge deserves another chance; how the hell did the NRL let Matt Lodge back into the game?
And we all know it would be zero fun being a Queenslander without those dirty rotten Blues.
Imagine what State of Origin would be like without the hate, which in most cases is generated by the media.
That being the case, surely someone is telling the NRL and its players what their media partners need to get a win? Because surely the NRL and its players can see, if the media wins, they win.
Surely?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sub...r&int_content=various&sourceCode=TAWEB_WBR924
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Ikin had his say in the Australian.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...t/news-story/54c6150f71f8db4c0ff7bf4313f340f7

 

[Sproj]

So yeah...doing exactly what the NRL is wanting to change...nice work, Benny.

 

[Morkel]

What a joke. His argument is that the media is doing a GOOD thing by exaggerating and extrapolating, deliberately, and beyond the actual truth of the matter? **** off. That is literally WWE, except the players and clubs are unwitting pawns in whatever story they want to spin.

 

[Porthoz]

Someone should provide Ikin, Kent and well... pretty much every sports journo in Australia, the Journalism Deontological Code of Ethics, or even just the Standards of Practice:

The General Principles Publications are free to publish as they wish by reporting facts and expressing opinions, provided they take reasonable steps to comply with the following Principles and the Council’s other Standards of Practice.

Accuracy and clarity
1. Ensure that factual material in news reports and elsewhere is accurate and not misleading, and is distinguishable from other material such as opinion.
2. Provide a correction or other adequate remedial action if published material is significantly inaccurate or misleading.

Fairness and balance
3. Ensure that factual material is presented with reasonable fairness and balance, and that writers’ expressions of opinion are not based on significantly inaccurate factual material or omission of key facts.
4. Ensure that where material refers adversely to a person, a fair opportunity is given for subsequent publication of a reply if that is reasonably necessary to address a possible breach of General Principle 3.

Privacy and avoidance of harm
5. Avoid intruding on a person’s reasonable expectations of privacy, unless doing so is sufficiently in the public interest.
6. Avoid causing or contributing materially to substantial offence, distress or prejudice, or a substantial risk to health or safety, unless doing so is sufficiently in the public interest.

Integrity and transparency
7. Avoid publishing material which has been gathered by deceptive or unfair means, unless doing so is sufficiently in the public interest.
8. Ensure that conflicts of interests are avoided or adequately disclosed, and that they do not influence published material.

Source: http://www.presscouncil.org.au/uploads/52321/ufiles/GENERAL_PRINCIPLES_-_July_14.pdf

 

[Mortician]

What does he expect when they act like *****? Best example was the bullshit that Ben Teo copped from them....

 

[cantab of broncoland]

Someone should provide Ikin, Kent and well... pretty much every sports journo in Australia, the Journalism Deontological Code of Ethics, or even just the Standards of Practice:

The General Principles Publications are free to publish as they wish by reporting facts and expressing opinions, provided they take reasonable steps to comply with the following Principles and the Council’s other Standards of Practice.

Accuracy and clarity
1. Ensure that factual material in news reports and elsewhere is accurate and not misleading, and is distinguishable from other material such as opinion.
2. Provide a correction or other adequate remedial action if published material is significantly inaccurate or misleading.

Fairness and balance
3. Ensure that factual material is presented with reasonable fairness and balance, and that writers’ expressions of opinion are not based on significantly inaccurate factual material or omission of key facts.
4. Ensure that where material refers adversely to a person, a fair opportunity is given for subsequent publication of a reply if that is reasonably necessary to address a possible breach of General Principle 3.

Privacy and avoidance of harm
5. Avoid intruding on a person’s reasonable expectations of privacy, unless doing so is sufficiently in the public interest.
6. Avoid causing or contributing materially to substantial offence, distress or prejudice, or a substantial risk to health or safety, unless doing so is sufficiently in the public interest.

Integrity and transparency
7. Avoid publishing material which has been gathered by deceptive or unfair means, unless doing so is sufficiently in the public interest.
8. Ensure that conflicts of interests are avoided or adequately disclosed, and that they do not influence published material.

Source: http://www.presscouncil.org.au/uploads/52321/ufiles/GENERAL_PRINCIPLES_-_July_14.pdf

Well that buggers up all news stories, especially political ones.

 

[Foordy]

Someone should provide Ikin, Kent and well... pretty much every sports journo in Australia, the Journalism Deontological Code of Ethics, or even just the Standards of Practice:

The General Principles Publications are free to publish as they wish by reporting facts and expressing opinions, provided they take reasonable steps to comply with the following Principles and the Council’s other Standards of Practice.

Accuracy and clarity
1. Ensure that factual material in news reports and elsewhere is accurate and not misleading, and is distinguishable from other material such as opinion.
2. Provide a correction or other adequate remedial action if published material is significantly inaccurate or misleading.

Fairness and balance
3. Ensure that factual material is presented with reasonable fairness and balance, and that writers’ expressions of opinion are not based on significantly inaccurate factual material or omission of key facts.
4. Ensure that where material refers adversely to a person, a fair opportunity is given for subsequent publication of a reply if that is reasonably necessary to address a possible breach of General Principle 3.

Privacy and avoidance of harm
5. Avoid intruding on a person’s reasonable expectations of privacy, unless doing so is sufficiently in the public interest.
6. Avoid causing or contributing materially to substantial offence, distress or prejudice, or a substantial risk to health or safety, unless doing so is sufficiently in the public interest.

Integrity and transparency
7. Avoid publishing material which has been gathered by deceptive or unfair means, unless doing so is sufficiently in the public interest.
8. Ensure that conflicts of interests are avoided or adequately disclosed, and that they do not influence published material.

Source: http://www.presscouncil.org.au/uploads/52321/ufiles/GENERAL_PRINCIPLES_-_July_14.pdf

Kent, Ikin and Rothfield deliberately ignore all of those standards of practice, since adhering to them would completely **** their agendas

 

[badyon]

"Apparently reporting on players breaking curfew to visit a strip club is much worse than actually breaking curfew to visit a strip club!"

Yes, Ben. Yes, it is.

Adults shouldn't really have curfews, and going to legal establishments shouldn't be a news item.

 

[Smartseal]

Interesting, he wants hero's and villains but forgets that this is sport, not a fkn soapy. And most villains eventually get pushed out for bringing the game into disrepute.
The crux of it seems the media just want something to increase their advertising revenue

 

[Morkel]

NRL Clubs: So unless we tell you what you want to hear, you'll just fabricate your own stories, and turn people in to heroes and villains, with no regard to the damage it does to people and their careers?

NRL Media: Oh no no no, we're just saying that, if you don't give your side of the story, we can't *protect* you from the public forming the wrong opinion. (Re-arranges the Brisbane Broncos lettering to form a swastika)

 

[Cult]

Why do the media think they play any part in promoting the game? The players play their part, the broadcasters play their part and the journalists don't do a thing. Not one journalist has gained a new fan for the sport of rugby league. Nobody reads an article in the paper and says "maybe I'll watch that".

 

[Sproj]

Why do the media think they play any part in promoting the game? The players play their part, the broadcasters play their part and the journalists don't do a thing. Not one journalist has gained a new fan for the sport of rugby league. Nobody reads an article in the paper and says "maybe I'll watch that".

What if someone is a Gossip Girl fan? The standard of 'journalism' could attract these sorts of people.