The Broncos thus far.

[QUEENSLANDER]

I'm glad it looks like he's been dropped.

neck injury as far as i know

 

[Coxy]

I'm glad it looks like he's been dropped.

neck injury as far as i know

Yep, neck injury, out for at least another week.

McGuire with a lacerated eye ball. Ouch!

 

[Nashy]

I'm glad it looks like he's been dropped.

neck injury as far as i know

Blessing in disguise.

 

[Black Philip]

Tronc has been fantastic? He makes no impact and his offloads are almost always shit. I have no idea how people always talk him up, he is average at best.

he doesnt make much impact, but he makes 10m on pretty much every single carry. hes like steve price was - doesnt bend the line backwards through force, just hits it and keeps powering on forward.

and he offloads! tronc offloads more in a single game than most other players in our team do in a whole season. more often than not they are good offloads too, dont know what games youve been watching to say theyre almost always shit.

I could say the same about you saying his offloads are almost always good [icon_confu Last time he played I remember at least two offloads that cost us ground and none that gave us an advantage.

And you say he is like Steve Price? [icon_lol1. Come on mate, pull the other one. Surely saying 10m a run is being very generous too? He lumbers up to the line in slow motion every time, I really am struggling to remember him making more that a couple of decent runs.

 

[Kimlo]

I'm a fan of Troncy :)

 

[mrslong]

Anyone else think Paul White instead of Bruno has also settled down the club a bit? & has trickled down to the onfiled performances as well? eusa_think

Agree wholeheartedly. The fact I haven't heard a thing out of Paul White since the season started speaks volumes IMO.

Definitely. CEO's should be seen and not heard. [icon_shady

 

[Anonymous person]

Last time he played I remember at least two offloads that cost us ground and none that gave us an advantage.

And you say he is like Steve Price? [icon_lol1. Come on mate, pull the other one. Surely saying 10m a run is being very generous too? He lumbers up to the line in slow motion every time, I really am struggling to remember him making more that a couple of decent runs.

how much did it cost us, 1 metre maybe? ill take losing a metre with the possibility of gaining another 10 over just taking the tackle. some people dont seem to realise just how important offloads are in this day and age. its basically an extra tackle in your set of six!

i say hes like steve price in that his style is the same, not that he is as awesome or effective - dont get me wrong on that. im just saying that steve price never did hit ups with lots of impact - he just hit it up, met the defensive line, and kept pushing and pushing and pushing, carrying the defenders another 3/4/5 metres forwards with him. thats what tronc does. he also always tries to get his arm free for the offload.

 

[Black Philip]

[quote="Anonymous person":cr527uo6]

Tronc has been fantastic? He makes no impact and his offloads are almost always shit. I have no idea how people always talk him up, he is average at best.

he doesnt make much impact, but he makes 10m on pretty much every single carry. hes like steve price was - doesnt bend the line backwards through force, just hits it and keeps powering on forward.

and he offloads! tronc offloads more in a single game than most other players in our team do in a whole season. more often than not they are good offloads too, dont know what games youve been watching to say theyre almost always shit.

Here's a cold hard fact for ya - Tronc has never averaged 10 meters per game since joining the Broncos.

And if you want me to do an average, let me know. Because I reckon his average would be somewhere in the low 7's at best.

You're thinking of Tronc at the Cowboys.

Tronce has never reached the heights of that at the cowboys in 2009. He certainly doesn't make 10 meters a run on "pretty much every single carry."[/quote:cr527uo6]

I was at work earlier so didn't really have the time to go rooting through game stats but I suspected as much regarding his meters made.

Sorry AP but I just can't see the positives you see in Tronc. I'll admit, I didn't watch much of the cowboys in 2009 so I can't comment on his form from then, but since he has been here IMO he has done nothing to suggest he should be a first team player. Until I see otherwise from Tronc I'm quite happy with the front row stocks we have at the moment.

 

[Alec]

I think the 10 metres is the metres he makes per run + the metres the ball goes backwards with each "offload".

 

[lyn]

I went into this season determined to have a fresh approach in attitude towards this season. I wanted to forget any basis's I had towards any player and give them a chance to prove themselves after our longest off season in years. Firstly my initial thoughts were less then optimistic, I liked Henjak and thought that sacking him before the season had begun would bring too much instability and without an additional quality player to replace Falou, such as Inglis I feared our season was doomed to mediocrity.

After 8 rounds I am pleased to say I have been proved incorrect. My judgment of Henjak was, lets just say, uninformed. No doubt he has had an impact in the development in certain players, but also believe it was because of him that Inglis decided against coming here and possibly other players we were not made aware of. I still believe we lack one more quality attacking back to truly become a premiership force, but time will tell.

From what I have seen over the past 8 rounds has been very encouraging, the Broncos are playing like a team! My biggest grips over the past number of seasons has been our defence, consistently one of the worse performers in missed tackles and offloads against, not this year. Griffen is building a team here and although I can't see a premiership just yet, stranger things have happened.

I'm really liking Griffen, at the press conference he said that he was disappointed and that no loss was "respectable", how refreshing. It shows that he is building a team that doesn't not accept second best, no excuses. Brilliant.

Now to my opinion on players.

On players that have really impressed me.
1. Reed - Of course, more workman than flashy centre, just seems to get the job done.
2. Parker - Just keeps going
3. Yow Yeh - Has really stepped up this year, improving all the time
4. Lockyer - Playing better then I have seen him play in years.
5. Hammant - Burning up the metres liking his go forward.
6. Hodges - Again, he's getting back to his best, I thought it would take longer.

Players I'm happy with, doing their job without standing out.
1. Beale - Has done a good job at the back, but my preference is still Hoffman
2. Dodds - I think there is a lot of improvement in him, but he looks the goods, needs more game time.
3. Glenn - IMO, playing out of position, but not letting us down
4. Wallace - Getting back to form, but still not worrying the defence as much as I'd like, in saying that, last nights game was his best in years. Defence is excellent.

Players IMO that are just not cutting it, or not improving or even a liability.

1. McCullough - Would he be the starting Hooker in any other club? His service is slow and the way he holds the ball at dummy-half always gives the defenders a chance at spoiling, happening far too often, 5 at my count, each one at critical times. (Hunt has also been guilty at that).
2. Hunt - Please I got to know what people are seeing in him? He has many supporters in this forum and all claim that he should get Lockyers spot next year. What am I missing? I look at the young half backs at other clubs and although not in the top 4's league they all offer something. Hunt has shown nothing and last night has not been the first time he's been given an opportunity at half back but he looked nothing short of a passenger. He should be sent back to the QLD Cup for at least a year to work on his craft, he is not first grade standard at this stage.
3. Kenny - For all his hard work he hasn't had the impact I thought he would.

Of the young group coming through Norman, Gagai, Lui, Copley and Hala all look promising. Norman will be a star player within the next couple of years, of that I have no doubt. I would like to see Baptiste given a chance in first grade.

Disappointed in Tronc, McGuire and Anderson.

Well that's my rant, not expecting anyone to read it, just wanted to get it off my chest.

Not saying you are wrong, just wanted to hear an explanation on a few of the things you said. I agree with the majority though.

What position do you think Glenn should be playing? I think this is the best he has played ever and he has really settled in the back row and looks at home.

I wouldn't say im disappointed with Kenny. I have been quite impressed with his performances so far. He has improved so much since last year and isn't getting bent back when hitting it up. Could be better but is still better than I was expecting.

Also I don't know why you are disappointed in McGuire and Anderson. Before getting injured, Anderson was playing decently. Nothing super exciting, but he wasn't bad, I don't think anyone was expecting more than that from him anyway. And McGuire has been one of our better front rowers this year in my opinion. It's a shame that he is injured because he was really making an impact off the bench.

 

[Burg]

I wasn't suggesting that Tronc was a liability, just in the list that I have been disappointed at, personally I was a big fan of Tronc, but alas he has not brought his Cowboys form to the Broncos. So that disappoints me. Kemp is another, I really thought he was a try scoring specialist, he should never have left, because when he did his abilities seemed to have been lost, pity.
With Glenn, I was I suppose talking about when he was playing centre and yes I think as a back rower he is preforming well and I can see him in a Parker style of player.
Kenny is a big unit and his nick name is the Wasp (stings in defence) and I really having seen any stinging tackles, solid, yes, but doesn’t stand out and rarely if ever bends the line.
It’s hard to be too critical of front rowers when they are so young considering a front rower only really gets good after about 25, so maybe I’m a tad harsh on McGuire and Anderson.
However the thing I am most impressed with is the team work this team is showing and that is what I’m most proud about.

 

[Jeba]

I thought Neale Wyatt was the Wasp???

 

[Burg]

I thought Neale Wyatt was the Wasp???

LOL, is it, shows you what I know ha ha ha

 

[gUt]

Now that Wallace is playing up to scratch, BHQ needs someone to hate. Throwing a dart at the dartboard... it hit Macca!

Seriously he's played hooker for a team that has won a million games straight but he's to be punted. BHQ you never disappoint.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Now that Wallace is playing up to scratch, BHQ needs someone to hate. Throwing a dart at the dartboard... it hit Macca!

Seriously he's played hooker for a team that has won a million games straight but he's to be punted. BHQ you never disappoint.

Have you watched Macca play at all??? [icon_drun

 

[Coxy]

Now that Wallace is playing up to scratch, BHQ needs someone to hate. Throwing a dart at the dartboard... it hit Macca!

Seriously he's played hooker for a team that has won a million games straight but he's to be punted. BHQ you never disappoint.

Team's winning so therefore all players are exempt from constructive criticism? Right.

 

[Anonymous person]

Team's winning so therefore all players are exempt from constructive criticism? Right.

thats how it worked here in 2006 though, wasnt it?

I wouldnt say that wallace is playing up to scratch yet. hes playing BETTER, but hes still not scoring us enough points or creating enough opportunities. as a playmaker, thats his job. no doubt hes 100000000% better than he has been over the last 3 years, but hes still not within coooieeee of being a top half of the competition.

 

[Charmamba]

Team's winning so therefore all players are exempt from constructive criticism? Right.

thats how it worked here in 2006 though, wasnt it?

I wouldnt say that wallace is playing up to scratch yet. hes playing BETTER, but hes still not scoring us enough points or creating enough opportunities. as a playmaker, thats his job. no doubt hes 100000000% better than he has been over the last 3 years, but hes still not within coooieeee of being a top half of the competition.

While only 1 game on Saturday night Imo he was only out played by Cronk. Noone else on the field match those 2.

If Wallace can take the confidence from that game and carry it on we have ourselves a game winner.