The real CIVO story.

[Flutterby]

Well - the offer wasn't as big as Civo was expecting so I guess his manager just assumed he wouldn't accept it (or manager didn't want to accept it as his cut would be less) - but seriously it should be like lawyers, managers should be legally compelled to convey any offer to their client. But as someone else said - Civo dumped his ass pretty quick (though too late for us)

 

[OXY-351]

Surely Civo has to take some respsonsibility though? If it was me, I'd be asking more questions of my manager, especially around contract renewal time.

 

[Nashy]

The manager is employed to ask and tell. It's to take the responsibility away from the player.

 

[Coxy]

The manager is employed to ask and tell. It's to take the responsibility away from the player.

Yes, but Oxy is right, it's the player's responsibility to ensure they are aware of the status of negotiations. If the manager has not disclosed all information then the player would have cause to sack the manager, and I guess depending on the outcome, potentially seek damages.

 

[OXY-351]

The manager is employed to ask and tell. It's to take the responsibility away from the player.

Yeah, I understand that, but surely when you know you're in contract negotiations and you haven't heard anything for a while, you might start to question your manager. Especially when the contract negotiations were so public. In a perfect world, you wouldn't have to, but there must be some terrible player managers out there.

 

[Anonymous person]

maybe he told his manager he wouldnt take less than X amount of dollars, and when the broncos didnt offer X amount of dollars, the manager said no and wanted to negotiate. the broncos then signed some new people and said 'too bad petero'. sounds plausible to me.

 

[Coxy]

The problem with player managers is their primary concern is getting their client (and thus themselves) the biggest $ value they can get.

However, as I have mentioned before, there's more to life and happiness than money. Result can be that players get negotiated into a deal at a club or even code (Union - Sailor anyone?) where the player earns a motza but is miserable.

Manager is happy because he gets his 5-10% of shitloads, he doesn't give a shit.

 

[Mister Wright]

Perhaps managers should have their own salary cap.

 

[Chumbason]

I agree with Coxy, there is far more to life than money, and I am sure some parts of his heart big petro would have loved to have stayed and played on with brisbane then suffer away with the panthers. Perhaps he'll be back for one last charge...

 

[Meat77]

I hate to say it - but he doesn't exactly look like he's "suffering away" with the Panthers right now

 

[lynx000]

I hope we see him back in a broncos jersey. I would like to see him play his last game wearing our strip, and hopefully in a winning grand final like Webcke.

 

[Coxy]

I hate to say it - but he doesn't exactly look like he's "suffering away" with the Panthers right now

Agreed. He's that kind of guy though. If he commits somewhere, he commits. Generally you find it's the people who don't commit to something that find themselves disliking it.

 

[Professor47]

It really is interesting how Civo played his best at such an older age... or were people blinded because he was alongside Webcke... I mean towards 05/06 Civo was definitely more effective than Webcke and I say that with no disrespect either...
They say props come of age anywhere between 26-28 but wasn't Civo 30? Can't remember.

 

[lynx000]

He has always struck me as the utter professional, prepares well, treats injuries well, does the right recuperation after games. For a guy like him with his frame, as long as injuries are kind there is no reason why he could not get another two good seasons before he has to retire. That would be ideal for us, by then, our younger props might be ready to step up.

 

[Coxy]

He has always struck me as the utter professional, prepares well, treats injuries well, does the right recuperation after games. For a guy like him with his frame, as long as injuries are kind there is no reason why he could not get another two good seasons before he has to retire. That would be ideal for us, by then, our younger props might be ready to step up.

And that's just it, it's not like he hasn't had his share of injuries. Broken arms, bad knee injuries. But because he is such a professional, a great trainer, committed to rehab etc, his body stays strong and recovers well.

He, Webcke and Price are without doubt the most amazing front row athletes I've ever seen.

 

[lynx000]

I agree totally Coxy, which is why he is such a great example to have around for the young forwards.

 

[Coxy]

Totally agree. Would love him to have a swansong with the Broncos.

 

[Anonymous person]

It really is interesting how Civo played his best at such an older age... or were people blinded because he was alongside Webcke... I mean towards 05/06 Civo was definitely more effective than Webcke and I say that with no disrespect either...

for all the praise Webcke got - and deserved - for the last few seasons of our Webcke/Civoniceva combination i thought Civo was the better forward. Webcke looked like he was making more metres and being the most effective, but in actual fact he wasnt. it was just the way he ran. Webcke hit the line at pace and with gusto, but stopped dead in his tracks and had a bit of a stand-up-wrestle with the defenders. Civoniceva just waltzed to the line, then carried the defenders that extra 4-5 metres, and got a nice play the ball away.