The Refs - Have a Whinge and Solve Their Many Problems

[tommy]

There was nothing wrong with the Munster incident. He didn't take advantage of the space created for him, he ended up running a different line which has always been play on.

I don't have a problem if the attacking player goes down on one knee and submits, that should be play on. I would have to see the incident again but I'm pretty sure the defender got completely taken out and knocked over which means he was prevented from making a tackle. Munster may have eventually chosen to run a different line but a bloke was still prevented from tackling him.

 

[Number6]

Like to see video ref replaced with captains challenge.

2 unsuccessful per half (additive) and 1 extra in overtime. Only for use when natural breakdown in play I.e. Tries, scrums, penalties or drop outs. Captain on field gets 10 seconds after end of play to signal. Takes heat off refs as if players disagree then can use it but if everyone misses something the that is life. If teams waste challenges then their problem. If teams use it as a tactical time out no problem with that but costs a challenge.

Only issue is how adjudicated. I think should go back to balance of probabilities. 50/50 goes to original decision (maybe with referral back to team) but if more likely no try then no try. If insufficient evidence available to add to decision then team gets referral back since no evidence is not a wrong referral.

Need to experiment with number and when can be used. Would add drama to game and tension about big calls without sucking the spontaneity out of obvious tries where we automatically go upstairs to be sure about onside or whatever. Would make refs more accountable for bad calls on field too. Don't have issue with bad strip calls or players holding the defensive player to milk a penalty or professional fouls not binned going upstairs.

3 refs who can't communicate in bunker each get one vote on question asked to eliminate one person screwing up the call. Transparent, fair and minimises error while increases entertainment. Harder for media, players and fans to detract from game by obsessing about bad calls when own team is responsible for challenge and fair oversight.

Aside from not getting challenges back when it is umpires call think the system works well in cricket. Only other issue is video ref error or individual interpretation but having 3 independent refs cuts the odds of this (maybe 1 an ex player trained as a ref {can't do own teams}, 1 from current pool of on field refs, lead specialist video ref).

 

[Cult]

Is there a stat for how many tries get sent to the video ref for each club? I feel like ours would be well over 50% this year.

 

[Nashy]

Is there a stat for how many tries get sent to the video ref for each club? I feel like ours would be well over 50% this year.

I find the past couple of months, it's rare to see a ref NOT go upstairs. And if it's a no try, ****, no chance it doesn't go up.

 

[CaptainHook]

The one that really annoys me is not being behind the goal line for a drop out.

Also, is the shot clock and scrum clock even a thing anymore?

 

[CaptainHook]

Is there a stat for how many tries get sent to the video ref for each club? I feel like ours would be well over 50% this year.

That Adam Blair one the other night against the Cowboys was a disgrace. They don't get much easier than that and the muppet still sent it upstairs.

 

[Morkel]

The one that really annoys me is not being behind the goal line for a drop out.

Also, is the shot clock and scrum clock even a thing anymore?

It is a thing until it looks like the time might run out so they stop it...