time for 2025 Teams List

my team to start with is

Walsh
Cobbo
Staggs
Mariner
Arthurs
Hunt
Reynolds
Haas
B Walters (I know, but only for initial onslught)
Carrigan
Riki
Piakura
Hetherington (only because this seems the way the coach in leaning

Willison
Mozer
Te Kura
Jenson/Gosiewski (for 2nd row options)

once Mam is back things can change dramatically
 
my team to start with is

Walsh
Cobbo
Staggs
Mariner
Arthurs
Hunt
Reynolds
Haas
B Walters (I know, but only for initial onslught)
Carrigan
Riki
Piakura
Hetherington (only because this seems the way the coach in leaning

Willison
Mozer
Te Kura
Jenson/Gosiewski (for 2nd row options)

once Mam is back things can change dramatically
I think the backline will be how you've got it based on Madge's comments re Cobbo on the wing.

It will be interesting to see if Kobe is given the starting spot... he'd effectively be taking it from Jensen.

I think Jensen is more likely to be on the bench than BTK... and that last spot is between BTK and Gos, but maybe Gos in front based on recent comments from Patty.

The interesting aspect would be if Patty retains the 13 and Kobe back to the bench with Jensen or Willison starting at prop.

Would that mean Gos is still in contention or does Kobe become the second row cover.

Kobe starting at 13 looks to balance the bench a bit better than last year by allowing a dedicated second rower to take the 17 jersey whilst retaining size for the middle rotation
 
Zane Bojack said on ABC radio that madge has pretty much already decided "most" positions. hooker and a couple of bench spots left to go.

anyway this will be our starting team according to Bojack:

1. Walsh
2. Cobbo
3. Mariner
4. Staggs
5. Arthars
6. Hunt
7. Reynolds
8. Carrigan
9. Walters / Mozer / Smoothy / Paix (most contentious position)
10. Haas
11. Riki
12. Piakura
13. Hethrington
 
While I don't mind the idea of Cobbo on the wing, Mariner defensively at centre does not inspire confidence. Maybe a full pre-season helps in that respect. But pre-Origin Cobbo was looking elite in bath attack and defence.
I don't mind Kobe starting at 13. Realistically he'll be buggered in 20 mins and Patty will go back there.
Definitely agree we need someone on the bench to cover 2RF and centre at a pinch.
 
Zane Bojack said on ABC radio that madge has pretty much already decided "most" positions. hooker and a couple of bench spots left to go.

anyway this will be our starting team according to Bojack:

1. Walsh
2. Cobbo
3. Mariner
4. Staggs
5. Arthars
6. Hunt
7. Reynolds
8. Carrigan
9. Walters / Mozer / Smoothy / Paix (most contentious position)
10. Haas
11. Riki
12. Piakura
13. Hethrington

It would be interesting to see what this means for Jensen. I like the idea of Patty at 8 and Kobe at 13, I think it is better balanced. I'd expect the bench to be something like:

14. Mozer / Paix
15. Willison
16. Taupau/Jensen/Te Kura
17. Gosiewski / Hunt / Perhaps a bolter like Bryce - he's heavily backed by the club.
 
It would be interesting to see what this means for Jensen. I like the idea of Patty at 8 and Kobe at 13, I think it is better balanced. I'd expect the bench to be something like:

14. Mozer / Paix
15. Willison
16. Taupau/Jensen/Te Kura
17. Gosiewski / Hunt / Perhaps a bolter like Bryce - he's heavily backed by the club.
Yep I'm coming around to Kobe at 13... purely for the balance it brings the bench.

If Madge can somehow bring 2023 Kobe back... or basically just any pre-2024 Kobe... then I think he's good enough to get more minutes.... but not having him on the bench means we can have a proper second rower filling the 17 jersey and just a bigger bench in general.

It's weird but the below
14. Mozer
15. Willison
16. Jensen
17. Gos

somehow feels better than Kobe on the bench even though we're probably still running the same 5 players as the middle rotation.

14. Mozer
15. Willison
16. Kobe
17. Gos


The second bench just feels small.

Jenson or Willison coming off the bench compared to Kobe coming off the bench is probably just better in helping Patty or Haas hold the middle until they get their break.

Assuming Haas and Kobe are the first two subs we'd have a rotational middle of 8. Jensen 10. Willison and 13. Patty... two big middles coming on to keep the momentum meaning less pressure on Patty having to maintain the momentum until he gets a break at like the 50 minute mark.
 
16. Taupau/Jensen/Te Kura

If Jensen isn`t starting I think he struggles to make the team .
I don`t think he can lift the team as a replacement . Taupau is a better impact player and BTK may well be too .

I was singing Jensens praises a cpl of season back . He didn`t impress me last year .
 
If Jensen isn`t starting I think he struggles to make the team .
I don`t think he can lift the team as a replacement . Taupau is a better impact player and BTK may well be too .

I was singing Jensens praises a cpl of season back . He didn`t impress me last year .

Yeah I am with you. I think the question marks there though are is Taupau getting past it and conversely, is Te Kura ready? I wonder if we might see Taupau early, Jensen through the middle and Te Kura in the back end. All of this of course is dependent on injuries.
 
I agree with most comments - Jenson is a very consistent player, but if he is not starting, then does not provide the impact we need off the bench.

Cobbo on the wing simply because we need the bigger body on first or second return after kick.

Mariner will be a long term player, but needs to be next to someone who communicates in defence.

this year will be the year to remove a lot of the "maybe players". If they do not perform or fall back into their poor defence, it does not matter how good they "may" be, coach will not put up with mediocrity
 
1. Walsh
2. Cobbo
3. Staggs
4. Mariner
5. Arthurs
6. Hunt
7. Reynolds
8. Jensen
9. Walters
10. Haas
11. Piakura
12. Riki
13. Carrigan

14. Mozer
15. Willison
16. Hethrington
17. Te Kura
 
Cobbo on the wing simply because we need the bigger body on first or second return after kick.

Yeah . but I would like to see try to Selwyn run past / around people rather than his try to run straight over them move .
There are times when he has space but decides to go straight at the defender . But once he is in space he then tries to go past / around and gets pushed over the sidelines . What`s up with that ?
 
1.Walsh
2.Cobbo
3Staggs
4.Mariner
5.Arthurs
6.Hunt
7.Reynolds
8.Carrigan
9.Paix
10.Haas
11.Piakura
12.Ricki
13.Hethrington
14.Mozer
15.Willison
16.Jensen
17.Te Kura
Once Mam is back for his massive suspension and after a few weeks in Q cup most likely, drop Paix back to Q cup. I like this idea of Mozer staying as our beach utility as he'll be familiar to it, once Mam is back.
 
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