TPJ, McCullough, Isaako future

LGH

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I've seen a few posts referring to Macca exercising his option for next year, can anyone confirm this, and does it mean we're actually stuck with him, or just that we'll have to pay to get rid of him?
 

Renegade

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I've seen a few posts referring to Macca exercising his option for next year, can anyone confirm this, and does it mean we're actually stuck with him, or just that we'll have to pay to get rid of him?
it means we're stuck with him, doubtful he'd agree to a release unless we paid up in which case there's no point. He's handy backup, but not good enough to be in our 17 anymore.

Scary part is, he's got a 2021 option in his favour too - we could be stuck with him for another 2 years.
 
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Mustafur

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If we are stuck with him, hopefully Siebs just puts him in Qld Cup, he might break and decide to end the contract so he can go to England.
 

Finbar

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Or we could line up a job for him at the Broncos so long as he's willing to quit immediately. Give one to his missus as well! Whatever it takes to get him off our cap.

He heals really quickly, get him working with the rehab and injury team because he obviously knows what he's doing when it comes to repairing his body. I reckon he's good around the club, just not as our hooker.
 
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Dazza 92

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Or we could line up a job for him at the Broncos so long as he's willing to quit immediately. Give one to his missus as well! Whatever it takes to get him off our cap.

He heals really quickly, get him working with the rehab and injury team because he obviously knows what he's doing when it comes to repairing his body. I reckon he's good around the club, just not as our hooker.
regardless of his playing future, I too would very much like Macca to stay around the club. Ideal role model for our younger players and a great servant for the club.
 

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This will be the test of Siebs as a coach.

Macca is a club stalwart, in the leadership group and most importantly, a popular and influential figure among the players I believe.

He is also a fairly clean skin, for a long time anyway, not cancerous ala Farah and a shining example of how the club takes care of its own.

He also simply isn’t what this club needs at 9 and by extension, not really in the best 17.

This isn’t a KNik scenario where he has another offer on the table or a Roberts scenario where he (probably with another coach in his ear) is trying to get himself released.

I think Siebs can see what everyone else can see with Macca but now that he has seemingly taken the next year option, how on Earth does Siebs handle this without causing a rift in the playing group or destabilizing the side.

I feel for Siebs in this situation, I don’t know how he should handle it for the best possible outcome.
 

Tom

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I thought there were posters that said Macca would be starting hooker at a lot of clubs. Have the Broncos attempted to offer him to them?
The Macca and Darius defenders have largely become hard to find lately.
 

Sproj

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To be fair, I do think Macca would be a good starting hooker for a few clubs, including from next year - Tigers, Dogs, Panthers, Warriors, Knights (mentoring Levi), Sea Eagles and Perth as a foundation hooker.

Problem is, no one else would think he is worth 500k?
 

Skyblues87

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This will be the test of Siebs as a coach.

Macca is a club stalwart, in the leadership group and most importantly, a popular and influential figure among the players I believe.

He is also a fairly clean skin, for a long time anyway, not cancerous ala Farah and a shining example of how the club takes care of its own.

He also simply isn’t what this club needs at 9 and by extension, not really in the best 17.

This isn’t a KNik scenario where he has another offer on the table or a Roberts scenario where he (probably with another coach in his ear) is trying to get himself released.

I think Siebs can see what everyone else can see with Macca but now that he has seemingly taken the next year option, how on Earth does Siebs handle this without causing a rift in the playing group or destabilizing the side.

I feel for Siebs in this situation, I don’t know how he should handle it for the best possible outcome.
Definitely a dilemma for Seibold. Macca is a true professional and am sure is popular within the playing group. However the playing group must surely see that Turpin offers more as Hooker. Seibold is trying to keep things on an even keel by having Macca on the bench however to me this is a complete waste of an interchange as Segeyaro offers more impact at 14. Can't really see how we can accommodate Macca in the 17. Shame he cannot play in another position.
 

Jason Simmons

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Definitely a dilemma for Seibold. Macca is a true professional and am sure is popular within the playing group. However the playing group must surely see that Turpin offers more as Hooker. Seibold is trying to keep things on an even keel by having Macca on the bench however to me this is a complete waste of an interchange as Segeyaro offers more impact at 14. Can't really see how we can accommodate Macca in the 17. Shame he cannot play.
Fixed.
 

Mister Wright

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Surely you start Macca. I’m his biggest fan, but even I can’t see how he has value off the bench. Turpin would benefit greatly by coming on with 10 to go in the first half and Macca can stay on the field as a defensive lock.
 

Caniffe

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Surely you start Macca. I’m his biggest fan, but even I can’t see how he has value off the bench. Turpin would benefit greatly by coming on with 10 to go in the first half and Macca can stay on the field as a defensive lock.
Yeah, no.
 

I bleed Maroon

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If I may, I have some mental barf I have been stewing that I would prefer to have out on the table, just so you blokes can either pull me up cause I'm dribbling nonsense or there really is something to my process, and that's what it is a process that I think the team should go through over the next 10 months.

As it stands right now, we are dismally short carded in 2 key positions, fullback and hooker. If I'm reading the mood around here at least, our current 1 and 9 both have a foot already out the door. If that's true (gods willing), then our spine pool starts to look real shallow. We need to do 3 things before Seibold can even think about "polishing" a premiership ready side.

We need to either pull off a miracle turnaround for Isaako or drop him pretty much for keeps. I love what he brings as a player when he's on, but the problem is he's not on, and has been far from it for awhile now. Right now he's little more than an a complication to the rebuild process. He is almost a footballer, but he's run out of time.

That leads me to Boyd. I would be stripping him of the captaincy TOMORROW if I were Seibold, a nice little friday night surprise on Origin weekend, and I'd be handing it off to an example setter within the squad like Glenn or Gillett. Boyd is not cut out to be a captain; he knows it, we know it, the media knows it and unless he is a complete moron, Seibold knows it. You can see it in Boyd's body language, you can see it in his inability to get the team back up after they've been put on their ass, you can see it when HE gets put on his ass and can't hack it when he does and sooks it up, which trickles only downward into the rest of the group. What I have just described is the antithesis of what a captain needs to be. A captain leads and bleeds from the front even if he isn't a good communicator, not dags around the ass with no gun like some Desmond Doss shit trying to look unassuming.

So Boyd loses the captaincy, but I wouldn't be moving him from fullback yet. I want to see if he can find anything close to something like his best form with the weight of the captaincy taken off him. If he can, great, he can see out his last days there before retirement (preferably on October 1st.) and Kennar comes in for Isaako. If he doesn't, he gets turfed out to Isaako's wing position and is given the tap on the shoulder, then the club goes to market for TWO fullbacks, one quality first grader to start in the 1 from next year and one reserve journeyman for a pinch.

Hooker, well this story has been told enough times for everybody. McC is not the answer and never will be for the maybe 1 more full year of footy he has of a career, whether that be here or preferably elsewhere. Turpin may not be a permanent answer but he is surely the far better option at this point. If Seibold doesn't have faith in him fine, but he has at least earned his chance to own it, and that reserve fullback I mentioned earlier can be a reserve hooker instead but I'd say a backup fullback is far more important personally.

Going forward, seeing as we're surely flush with salary cap by now, we may also want to think about signing a forward leader. These young blokes have an insane ceiling, but they are really struggling to find it right now. Glenn does an admirable job but lets face it he is getting long in the tooth now as well. I'd be going after a James Graham or a Paul Vaughn personally. Someone who has been around the block enough that he can be the leader of the pack as it were.
 
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Mustafur

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I would say Left Centre is probably our weakest position right now, but long term that is covered by Boyd, Hooker is covered if Seibs can wake up and see the daylight Fullback needs some Cap space spent on it, if we can toss Macca and Boyd we will have alot of money to get someone, problem for us is there is only really 3 standouts for that position none of which are possible and there is a big gap in quality behind them(Tedesco, Ponga and Turbo).

I know Munster prefers playing fullback, maybe throw a Million and change at him and say it's his, he might come around but I think he is signed up at Melbourne for years.

Gutherson would did been a perfect option for us but he just resigned, he isn't as good as the elite fullbacks but he is a high effort player and would make a good captain, something we need more then anything right now.
 

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