TPJ to represent Tonga

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I thought he had sons haha. But seriously, good call big fella. Who'd want to pay for the Blues anyway?
 
007 said:
This thread makes no sense.

1) He's already represented Tonga?

Please reads this re SOO eligibility. As he was born a Sydney boy and grew up here...
https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/documents/stateoforigineligibilityexplained.pdf
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He didn't grow up here. He was born in Sydney and played all of his junior football for Newcastle.
Yes, he currently represents Tonga but every man and his dog in the media has been saying that he is a bolter to play for NSW this year assuming he would pledge his allegiance to them. He just confirmed that he won't be which was the point of the this thread.
 
007 said:
This thread makes no sense.

1) He's already represented Tonga?

Please reads this re SOO eligibility. As he was born a Sydney boy and grew up here...
https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/documents/stateoforigineligibilityexplained.pdf
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for a "former rugby league player", i would have thought you would have known that they changed the rules around representing tier 2 nations and playing origin...

in case you missed it, a player can represent a tier 2 nation (i.e. PNG, Tonga, Fiji etc) if they have not been selected for a tier 1 nation (i.e. Australia, NZ, Eng) with out affecting their eligibility to represent the tier 1 nation they are eligible for ...
 
Lockyer daughters up said:
He didn't grow up here. He was born in Sydney and played all of his junior football for Newcastle.
Yes, he currently represents Tonga but every man and his dog in the media has been saying that he is a bolter to play for NSW this year assuming he would pledge his allegiance to them. He just confirmed that he won't be which was the point of the this thread.
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Here is Sydney for me - should have made that clear sorry.

Foordy said:
for a "former rugby league player", i would have thought you would have known that they changed the rules around representing tier 2 nations and playing origin...

in case you missed it, a player can represent a tier 2 nation (i.e. PNG, Tonga, Fiji etc) if they have not been selected for a tier 1 nation (i.e. Australia, NZ, Eng) with out affecting their eligibility to represent the tier 1 nation they are eligible for ...
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Correct, and he had chosen Tonga a little while ago - im pretty sure he released a statement during or before the world cup stating his intentions. My comment was in response to the OP - he suggested that its "news" and that he is not eligble for NSW - which is not correct.

My understanding is as you have said - if they are tied to a teir 2 nation, they are still eligible for NSW/QLD also. If it was Tier 1, this would be a different story.
 
I honestly think the media has a lot to do with this. Why would you want to play for nsw when you hear the way players are treated after every loss. The media ensures every players value dips after every nsw loss (at least twice a year) so it financially probably breaks even tbh. Lyon led the way, and Inglis followed (luckily for us) in turning down the blues. Bennett may have whispered in his ear that it'd be compensated via his broncos salary as well.

If we keep him and lodge and nsw/the media stick to their moral high ground by not picking lodge (I doubt this very very much) it'd be all the more satisfying every time we beat one of the daily telegraphs favourites (eg roosters, eels, dragons) and they don't talk those players up.

On an additional note, Nsw are stupid enough to not pick Roberts (perfect game breaking ability for origin!) then they'd probably be stupid enough to pick players like woods ahead of TPJ for years to come anyway. Im also guessing bird won't see a blues jersey for the next 4 years no matter what form he shows and despite the fact he has been one of their best debutants for years...
 
You would think TPJ not playing Origin, but having Origin form would make his value to a club go up .

A player that doesn't have to sit out a round or two every year, is more valuable to club than one that does.
 
Foordy said:
seems like a pretty Loyal guy ... hopefully it means he will tell every other club to **** off as he re-signs with us
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Newcastle apparently still have plenty in their cap and will offer him big $$ to come back.
 
Dexter said:
Newcastle apparently still have plenty in their cap and will offer him big $$ to come back.
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according to Slothfield ... although, i'm not sure how he came up with that, from watching that segment, it seemed like he was making a suggestion to the Knight, not necessarily something the Knights have considered at this stage.

I also don't think the Knights have as much money in their cap as Slothfield thinks ... they paid big money to Ponga and likely to Guerra, Pearce and decent coin to Moga and Ese'ese. they also bought Heighington, Lilyman, Griffin and Watson this season.

all up their recruitment for 2018 would have set them back sizable amount and I don't think any of them are 1 year contracts
 
Foordy said:
according to Slothfield ... although, i'm not sure how he came up with that, from watching that segment, it seemed like he was making a suggestion to the Knight, not necessarily something the Knights have considered at this stage.

I also don't think the Knights have as much money in their cap as Slothfield thinks ... they paid big money to Ponga and likely to Guerra, Pearce and decent coin to Moga and Ese'ese. they also bought Heighington, Lilyman, Griffin and Watson this season.

all up their recruitment for 2018 would have set them back sizable amount and I don't think any of them are 1 year contracts
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It looks to me like Nate Brown is an open book so their cap position and recruiting intentions would be well known . Guerra, I don't think, would be on big coin, the other 2 yes and they would have some others coming off contract. Even if they can offer 500k we would be hard pressed to go close. Let's hope TPJ isn't motivated by $$$.
 
Also, there’s a salary cap floor now where clubs have to spend 95% of this cap each year so unless there’s a lot of front ended contracts, Buzz is talking out of his backside - which should surprise no-one.
 
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