Wayne Bennett confirmed as 2015 coach of Brisbane Broncos

[badyon]

"This is a guy that ran with stagg in the centres"

We won a premiership with Stagg in the centres. What would you prefer Bennett do? Not win premierships?

Don't let logic get in the road of you thinking...

 

[rnabokov]

I make no secret of the fact, and never have, that I don't think much of Bennett as a coach. Strategically and tactically, he has always been average IMO. I would rather have Hasler or Toovey, even Bellamy, any day.

Bennett is good at bringing out the best in individual players, and i don't doubt he played a huge role in creating a great club.

I think it is important to distinguish between what Bennet has, and can do for the club, as opposed to what he can do as a coach. I think Beads's post above says that well- Bennett as the "man manager" vs Bennett the tactician.

For mine, the majority of the premierships he won was more to do with the quality of the players in his rosters than anything creative or brilliant he did in terms of strategy and tactics. His last few years at the Broncos were IMO, no less awful as those with Henjak and now Griffin.

So now, he backdoors a deal out of the blue, in the most critical part of the season that gets him back here with a bloody good roster for '15 - dominant prop excepted, although there are game plans which compensate well for that, and, shock horror, under Hook, that game plan has actually worked well this year, and in spits and dribbles last year. Trouble is, one of Hook's greatest weaknesses is his inability to get consistency into the team, both in terms of attitude and execution.

I really believe sacking Hook a week after the whole team publicly declared their loyalty to him showed in the way we played last night. I am still disgusted at the way the backdoor deal was done and trumpeted in the media.

As for Hook, I feel sympathy for the way he was dumped yet I still feel no sympathy for the fact he is just not yet, if ever, a complete 1st grade coach.

He may have atoned for one mortal sin in the Hoffman at 5/8 debacle, but he still persists with idiotic bench selections and his pathetic use of the bench, and an apparent inability to bring out consistently, the absolute best in his players individually, then integrate that into a team performance where the game plan is well executed and the team is committed for the full 80 minutes, which is one of Bennett's strengths.

For the record, referring to an earlier post by 'spawn I think, I was one who previously posted, and still believe, we can be a top 4 side, and my position on that will remain as such until next week at least.

As I have been posting all year, the key to this team's success this year is (1) Barba doing a good job as a play maker, (2) our forwards playing intelligent football - recognizing that they are never going to dominate the middle and thus moving the ball ASAP away from the ruck to Hunt and Barba, (3) Using our top notch edge and backline - getting them quality ball in good position (4) defence - like we showed we can do last week, with great line speed and largely effective tackling in the middle.

Next week's game against Manly will show whether this team has just given up the ghost, or intends to show they are true professionals and loyal to the great club they play for, and to the loyal fans who support the club and passionately follow the team.

 

[Porthoz]

For some reason I don't think Bennett is the type of man who will put up with players bitching that their "best mate" has been fucked off. The great thing about Bennett is, despite what some posters are saying, that he is a draw card for talent. If he were coach instead of Henjack we would have had Inglis, which would have probably translated into a premiership in 2011.

I think that with pretty much any coach bar Henjak, we would've had Inglis.

I have hope Bennett will be able to get much more out of our pack, especially the backrowers, which seem to be the ones who have gone considerably backwards given their talent.

 

[Kaz]

[MENTION=1847]rnabokov[/MENTION]

I sent a PM to a member here stating that when we win our next GF with Bennett in charge, people here will say I told you so.

But they have forgotten Henjak & Hook blooding the kids.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Hook has developed players well but can't take us to the next level. Bennett should be able to take us to the level required to win a premiership.

 

[Ari Gold]

@rnabokov

I sent a PM to a member here stating that when we win our next GF with Bennett in charge, people here will say I told you so.

But they have forgotten Henjak & Hook blooding the kids.

Hook deserves no credit for blooding the kids. If anything, he's hurt their development. I mean, this is a guy that played Ben Hunt as a bench utility for 3 years. Yep, definitely won't be forgetting that. Thanks so much Hook!

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

"This is a guy that ran with stagg in the centres"

We won a premiership with Stagg in the centres. What would you prefer Bennett do? Not win premierships?

Don't let logic get in the road of you thinking...

And we won a heap of games with hoffman at 6. Shit argument mate. Just because u win doesnt mean each and every selection was a good one

 

[Anonymous person]

That's certainly an interesting stand point from you being a storm fan.

All I'm saying is it's a bit rich for certain posters to whinge because the pro WB people are 'gloating', after a week where any one that was for the WB signing had their ethics questioned.

Basically you treat people like arseholes and are then surprised when they behave like arseholes

But who questioned anyone other than Bennetts ethics? I sure didn't.

This "gloating" is the very thing that the staunchly pro-Bennett people do that makes everyone else think theyre stupid - Bennetts team wins a single game and all of a sudden the only reason they won is because of Bennett. He kicked the balls, he made the tackles, he scored the tries. Then when they lose the next week - or in this case pretty much every other week this entire season, Bennetts not the one missing the tackles or bombing the tries, the loss had nothing to do with him and is no reflection on him. They want to eat their cake and have it too. If they win its because of Bennett, if they lose its because of the players.

FFS they had 1 win while sitting 14th on the ladder and the Bennett supporters are gloating! Do you see how ridiculous that I. The broncos are higher on the ladder, have been all season, yet somehow this win means Bennett is the best?

Its like arguing with religious zealots.

 

[Big Pete]

Can I ask something?

Did members actually watch the game or just see the result and go woohoo?

Wouldn't it make sense to talk about specifics about the Knights game, areas that you think Bennett could bring to the team?

An upset really doesn't mean a whole lot.

 

[rnabokov]

But who questioned anyone other than Bennetts ethics? I sure didn't.

This "gloating" is the very thing that the staunchly pro-Bennett people do that makes everyone else think theyre stupid - Bennetts team wins a single game and all of a sudden the only reason they won is because of Bennett. He kicked the balls, he made the tackles, he scored the tries. Then when they lose the next week - or in this case pretty much every other week this entire season, Bennetts not the one missing the tackles or bombing the tries, the loss had nothing to do with him and is no reflection on him. They want to eat their cake and have it too. If they win its because of Bennett, if they lose its because of the players.

FFS they had 1 win while sitting 14th on the ladder and the Bennett supporters are gloating! Do you see how ridiculous that I. The broncos are higher on the ladder, have been all season, yet somehow this win means Bennett is the best?

Its like arguing with religious zealots.

Amen. Bring on the Messiah! I mean Milford ...

 

[Cult]

So giving up your morals and ethics is ok if you win, is that what you're saying?

I seriously fail to see how our ethics and morals are even being questioned. We did nothing. We are just happy with the fact that he will no longer be fucking up our club.

 

[Porthoz]

I seriously fail to see how our ethics and morals are even being questioned. We did nothing. We are just happy with the fact that he will no longer be fucking up our club.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Is there any news filtering out on Stephen Kearney's position in the club?

Personally, he should have been punted before Griffin and now that he hasn't, I'm a bit worried Bennett will keep him around too.

Didn't Bennett and Kearney work together in winning the Kiwis the 4 nations a few years back?

That's not good.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Kevin Walters is coming that is certain. I'd like for Wayne to find the best Defensive coach he can. He also will probably bring his own fitness and conditioning staff.

 

[Splinter]

i really dont understan why you lot seem to think bennett will clean out the rubbish from our squad?
He kept players like carlaw, meyers and stu fucking kelly around WAYYYYY longer than he should have while at the broncos, while in his team at the knights he has left boyd at fullback when he was in the worst form i have ever seen a player in (first half of year) while he had players in the reserves team killing it. Have a long think about what you are expecting. A guy that has a history of NOT culling crap from teams is not going to just change his way when he gets here.

Also dont know why you think he will start playing people in their right positions all the time
This is a guy that ran with stagg in the centres, stagg in the halves, carroll in the halves just to name a few.

They were Bennett soldiers, what he gets next year could be Griffin soldiers. One reason to make changes.
Second point is Stagg was a centre all the way through and changed to a second rower as he matured.

 

[vertigo]

He also will probably bring his own fitness and conditioning staff.

Not necessary, we have the best in the business.

 

[Splinter]

Pretty sure Kevy said this week Bennett does very little if any video, he is just a man manager and does not know how to turn on a computer

 

[Bucking Beads]

Not necessary, we have the best in the business.

That doesn't mean Wayne won't bring his own blokes. I've seen talk he might get Dean Benton back.