MELTDOWN Wayne Bennett - Moves to Souths
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Couldn’t see why he wouldn’t see out his contract. He’s assembled a squad here that can give him the best chance to win the premiership next season.
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Why Wayne Bennett is wrong fit for battling Wests Tigers
Wayne Bennett has spent the last 30 years telling his players to back themselves. Now he should do the same.
Penrith’s stunning acquisition of Ivan Cleary, initially from 2021 but perhaps next year, has opened the door for Wests Tigers to launch a bid to entice Bennett south as soon as next season.
The electric crackle of controversial contract deals and the romance of Cleary senior and junior being united have masked one simple fact — Wests Tigers are not the club for Bennett.
Not next year or never.
Bennett turns 69 in January and, like an old master builder, is up for some deft tinkering. But the days of full blown, top-to-bottom renovations are gone.
Fit as he is, that is a job for younger men who can work around the clock, which is why Bennett should stay at the Broncos for one last year and back himself to get a better job on the strength of it.
Bennett might just be the man who can sneak into the Dragons or the Rabbitohs — if Anthony Seibold heads to Brisbane — and provide the spit and polish that lifts them from good to great. But the Tigers are just too hard. As Tigers legend Benny Elias said, they are a laughing stock.
None of the seven coaches who have led them have managed a 50 per cent winning record even though Tim Sheens won a premiership. They haven’t made the finals for eight years.
When Kevin Walters was mulling over applying for the Titans a job friend said to him, “people say you will be a hero even if you get them into seventh or eighth spot but you have won a fistful of premierships — seventh spot might satisfy them but it won’t float your boat after all you have done.’’
You could say the same of Bennett. A seventh-placed finish next year would be a substantial pass mark for the club but for Bennett it would be about as stimulating as a cucumber sandwich.
Bennett is essentially playing a game of chicken — with himself. His great fear is not going to a weak club but having no club at all. But if he backs himself with a young and extremely promising Broncos side next year the rewards could be much greater.
Don’t worry about the timeline, his age or how many spots are open. The offers will come.
The soon-to-be clinched unification of the Clearys is an interesting affair. Between them father and son are likely to bag about $7m in contract fees with Nathan signing a five-year deal and his father set for three or more.
It sounds great in theory but the pressure will be incredible and they will have to negotiate it as a family. Great challenges await.
Source: The Australian
Wayne Bennett has spent the last 30 years telling his players to back themselves. Now he should do the same.
Penrith’s stunning acquisition of Ivan Cleary, initially from 2021 but perhaps next year, has opened the door for Wests Tigers to launch a bid to entice Bennett south as soon as next season.
The electric crackle of controversial contract deals and the romance of Cleary senior and junior being united have masked one simple fact — Wests Tigers are not the club for Bennett.
Not next year or never.
Bennett turns 69 in January and, like an old master builder, is up for some deft tinkering. But the days of full blown, top-to-bottom renovations are gone.
Fit as he is, that is a job for younger men who can work around the clock, which is why Bennett should stay at the Broncos for one last year and back himself to get a better job on the strength of it.
Bennett might just be the man who can sneak into the Dragons or the Rabbitohs — if Anthony Seibold heads to Brisbane — and provide the spit and polish that lifts them from good to great. But the Tigers are just too hard. As Tigers legend Benny Elias said, they are a laughing stock.
None of the seven coaches who have led them have managed a 50 per cent winning record even though Tim Sheens won a premiership. They haven’t made the finals for eight years.
When Kevin Walters was mulling over applying for the Titans a job friend said to him, “people say you will be a hero even if you get them into seventh or eighth spot but you have won a fistful of premierships — seventh spot might satisfy them but it won’t float your boat after all you have done.’’
You could say the same of Bennett. A seventh-placed finish next year would be a substantial pass mark for the club but for Bennett it would be about as stimulating as a cucumber sandwich.
Bennett is essentially playing a game of chicken — with himself. His great fear is not going to a weak club but having no club at all. But if he backs himself with a young and extremely promising Broncos side next year the rewards could be much greater.
Don’t worry about the timeline, his age or how many spots are open. The offers will come.
The soon-to-be clinched unification of the Clearys is an interesting affair. Between them father and son are likely to bag about $7m in contract fees with Nathan signing a five-year deal and his father set for three or more.
It sounds great in theory but the pressure will be incredible and they will have to negotiate it as a family. Great challenges await.
Source: The Australian
- Jan 25, 2014
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I've listened to the video a million times and I don't think he's saying what Chris Garry thinks he is saying.
It sounds like he was saying, "The only thing that I will tell you here tonight is that... ah we will turn up in 2019."
Garry seems to think he's saying, "I will turn up in 2019." But it doesn't sound like it.
- May 21, 2013
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He definitely says I will turn up in 2019
Broncs_Fan
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No he doesn't. He says 'we'll turn up in 2019'. The team will turn up on the field.
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- May 21, 2013
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Oh yeah you boys are right, had another listen, the "ah" just before he says it threw me off.
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Yep, but saying "I will turn up next year" is a bigger deal than saying "we will".
Skyblues87
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He could have quite easily have said I will be coaching the Broncos next season. He didnt.
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Pretty sure that came up and Bennett made quite clear that he wouldn't even consider an offer.
cakeGG
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"We will turn up in 2019."
Really? Well you and your entire team of pea hearts sure as shit didn't turn up this year. A great opportunity at a title wasted Canberra style. Yeah I'm still mad about it.
Bennett better fucking retire after 2019 so the NRL might give us a chance via politics, so long as Bennett retirement > Cammy and Cronk storyline.
If he joins another club, forget about it.
Really? Well you and your entire team of pea hearts sure as shit didn't turn up this year. A great opportunity at a title wasted Canberra style. Yeah I'm still mad about it.
Bennett better fucking retire after 2019 so the NRL might give us a chance via politics, so long as Bennett retirement > Cammy and Cronk storyline.
If he joins another club, forget about it.
- Oct 7, 2017
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Bennett, Maguire head to head
OCTOBER 10, 2018
Wayne Bennett and Michael Maguire are only weeks away from locking horns in a three-match Test series in England. A more intriguing game involving the pair looms on home soil.
Bennett is due to touch down in England imminently, having insisted to all and sundry that he will see out the final year of his deal in Brisbane, where he and many others believe the roster is primed to win a premiership.
At the same time, as revealed in The Australian last week, the Wests Tigers are circling and Bennett could figure in a plan that would allow Ivan Cleary to leave for Penrith, where many believe his heart and head already lie.
Maguire is also on the Tigers radar and his future could ultimately hinge on Bennetts decision, placing the pair in competition not only for international honours, but also potentially their club coaching futures.
The Tigers are doing their due diligence. They know Bennett would be the easiest sell with fans should they decide to release Cleary from the final years of his deal.
When the club brought Cleary back from the coaching wilderness a few years back after he was sacked by Penrith because general manager of football Phil Gould thought he was tired they were considered a basket-case.
Now it appears coaches are falling over themselves to take over the Tigers, including a seven-time premiership winner regarded as the greatest mentor in the games history.
Bennett would be a serious upgrade on Cleary, a coach with a sub-50 per cent winning ratio whose relationship with Tigers fans has been irreparably damaged by events of recent months.
The challenge is the timing. The Tigers may be forced to wait 12 months for Bennett, which would leave them in an invidious and puzzling position.
They could make Cleary serve another year of his deal and wait for Bennett to come at the end of next season, although that would effectively mean treading water under a coach who has his mind elsewhere and who has a strained relationship with officials and fans alike.
Or they could change paths and focus their energies on Maguire, whose coaching record doesn’t match Bennetts but more than eclipses Clearys. Maguire won more than 60 per cent of games at Wigan and South Sydney, capturing grand finals at both clubs.
The Tigers are due to return to training in early November. The clock is ticking. The repercussions stretch across the length and breadth of the NRL. Maguire, having already turned down the opportunity to coach Manly, covets the Brisbane job but faces competition for the post as the Broncos ponder their options beyond next season.
Given the way the club has handled the decision to bring down the curtain on Bennett, it would be a major surprise if their pursuit of a replacement doesn’t follow a methodical process in which alternatives are forced to undergo a rigorous assessment.
Maguire is certain to figure in that process. So too Queensland State of Origin coach Kevin Walters, who has long eyed the Broncos job and had a glittering history with the club as a player.
South Sydney are locked in extension talks with Anthony Seibold, but he is on the Broncos radar, although the sense is that he may ultimately extend his time at the Rabbitohs. Chances are current Brisbane assistant Jason Demetriou will receive the courtesy of an interview as well.
The Broncos will have no shortage of options, the head coach role at Brisbane remaining one of the most prestigious in the NRL. The Tigers will have plenty of alternatives as well. They have come a long way in a short time, to the point where coaches with outstanding resumes want a piece of the action.
Cleary helped with that process, but he won’t be missed.
Source The Australian.
OCTOBER 10, 2018
Wayne Bennett and Michael Maguire are only weeks away from locking horns in a three-match Test series in England. A more intriguing game involving the pair looms on home soil.
Bennett is due to touch down in England imminently, having insisted to all and sundry that he will see out the final year of his deal in Brisbane, where he and many others believe the roster is primed to win a premiership.
At the same time, as revealed in The Australian last week, the Wests Tigers are circling and Bennett could figure in a plan that would allow Ivan Cleary to leave for Penrith, where many believe his heart and head already lie.
Maguire is also on the Tigers radar and his future could ultimately hinge on Bennetts decision, placing the pair in competition not only for international honours, but also potentially their club coaching futures.
The Tigers are doing their due diligence. They know Bennett would be the easiest sell with fans should they decide to release Cleary from the final years of his deal.
When the club brought Cleary back from the coaching wilderness a few years back after he was sacked by Penrith because general manager of football Phil Gould thought he was tired they were considered a basket-case.
Now it appears coaches are falling over themselves to take over the Tigers, including a seven-time premiership winner regarded as the greatest mentor in the games history.
Bennett would be a serious upgrade on Cleary, a coach with a sub-50 per cent winning ratio whose relationship with Tigers fans has been irreparably damaged by events of recent months.
The challenge is the timing. The Tigers may be forced to wait 12 months for Bennett, which would leave them in an invidious and puzzling position.
They could make Cleary serve another year of his deal and wait for Bennett to come at the end of next season, although that would effectively mean treading water under a coach who has his mind elsewhere and who has a strained relationship with officials and fans alike.
Or they could change paths and focus their energies on Maguire, whose coaching record doesn’t match Bennetts but more than eclipses Clearys. Maguire won more than 60 per cent of games at Wigan and South Sydney, capturing grand finals at both clubs.
The Tigers are due to return to training in early November. The clock is ticking. The repercussions stretch across the length and breadth of the NRL. Maguire, having already turned down the opportunity to coach Manly, covets the Brisbane job but faces competition for the post as the Broncos ponder their options beyond next season.
Given the way the club has handled the decision to bring down the curtain on Bennett, it would be a major surprise if their pursuit of a replacement doesn’t follow a methodical process in which alternatives are forced to undergo a rigorous assessment.
Maguire is certain to figure in that process. So too Queensland State of Origin coach Kevin Walters, who has long eyed the Broncos job and had a glittering history with the club as a player.
South Sydney are locked in extension talks with Anthony Seibold, but he is on the Broncos radar, although the sense is that he may ultimately extend his time at the Rabbitohs. Chances are current Brisbane assistant Jason Demetriou will receive the courtesy of an interview as well.
The Broncos will have no shortage of options, the head coach role at Brisbane remaining one of the most prestigious in the NRL. The Tigers will have plenty of alternatives as well. They have come a long way in a short time, to the point where coaches with outstanding resumes want a piece of the action.
Cleary helped with that process, but he won’t be missed.
Source The Australian.
