2014 Four Nations

[Super Freak]

You can't be eligible for QLD unless your allegiance is with Australia, so he would have had to pick. He was 18th man for QLD.

Then he switches to Samoa a week after playing for the PM's XIII.

How can he be eligible for Origin next year?

 

[Ari Gold]

The 18th man thing was what I was half way through typing until I realised he'd played... PLAYED... in the Australian jersey. A week ago.

But it wasn't an Australian jersey. It was a PM XIII's jersey. If you are selected to play for the PM's XI in cricket it doesn't count as an ODI and if you were duel eligible then playing that match wouldn't affect your ability to play for say Australia and England. This, I'm quite sure, is the same scenario.

 

[Super Freak]

I've been having a look at the eligibility rules and I can't see how McGuire can play Origin next year.

If he plays a game for Samoa, he has elected to play for that country and cannot switch again until after the next World Cup or after 2 years, whichever is closer.

Now Guerra did play for Italy in 2013 and play for QLD the following year, but if I remember correctly, he chose Italy before the World Cup and therefore could change to Australia afterwards.

Honestly, there is so much confusion around these rules, it's hard to know exactly what they are. It needs to be cleared up.

 

[Alec]

I've been having a look at the eligibility rules and I can't see how McGuire can play Origin next year.

If he plays a game for Samoa, he has elected to play for that country and cannot switch again until after the next World Cup or after 2 years, whichever is closer.

Now Guera did play for Italy in 2013 and play for QLD the following year, but if I remember correctly, that's because he could change after the World Cup.

The same rule won't apply for McGuire.

Did he actually switch back to Australia?

 

[Super Freak]

Did he actually switch back to Australia?

As far as I know, you have to in order to be eligible for Origin. He didn't play, but he was selected. But I'm not sure if the rule applies to selections, where you have to elect to play for Australia to be selected. They aren't very clear on that.

I can't find anything about it.

I know he knocked back the chance to play for Samoa earlier in the year because he wanted to play Origin.

 

[Super Freak]

Actually, it turns out McGuire switched his allegiance to Australia in 2011, but wasn't eligible to play for Australia that year.

So now that he has switched back to Samoa, surely that means he can't switch again for 2 years?

I give up on these rules.

If he can play for QLD next year, I'm glad. He has improved as a player this year and deserves a spot. Hopefully he takes McQueen's spot..

Anyway, now that Hayne is out, surely that means Inglis will be fullback. I wonder who will play at centre.

I think this will be the squad for the game against NZ.

1. Greg Inglis
2. Daniel Tupou
3. Michael Jennings
4. Dylan Walker
5. Josh Mansour
6. Daly Cherry-Evans
7. Cooper Cronk
8. Aaron Woods
9. Cameron Smith
10. Corey Parker
11. Ryan Hoffman
12. Sam Thaiday
13. Greg Bird

14. Robbie Farah
15. Josh Papalii
16. Boyd Cordner
17. David Klemmer

I think Tupou and Jennings will get the nod for the left centre/wing spot because of their club combination.

I think Mansour will be ahead of Johnston for the other wing spot.

I would be expecting the likes of Hunt, Scott, Johnston, Guerra, Jackson to come in the side for the game against Samoa.

 

[Unbreakable]

Walker to centre.

1. Inglis
2. Tupou
3. Jennings
4. Walker
5. Johnston

Keep the Souths & Roosters combinations strong.

 

[Mr Fourex]

You can't be eligible for QLD unless your allegiance is with Australia, so he would have had to pick. He was 18th man for QLD.

Then he switches to Samoa a week after playing for the PM's XIII.

How can he be eligible for Origin next year?

 

[Mr Fourex]

Walker to centre.

1. Inglis
2. Tupou
3. Jennings
4. Walker
5. Johnston

Keep the Souths & Roosters combinations strong.

I'd swap Mansor for Tupou. With the lack of grunt up forward, Mansor's power game will come in handy.

 

[Big Pete]

Greg Bird - 12 Appearances
Daly Cherry-Evans - 7 Appearances
Boyd Cordner - 3 Appearances
Cooper Cronk - 22 Appearances
Robbie Farah - 7 Appearances
Aidan Guerra - DEBUT
Ryan Hoffman - 5 Appearances
Ben Hunt - DEBUT
Greg Inglis - 29 Appearances
Josh Jackson - DEBUT
Michael Jennings - 2 Appearances
Alex Johnston - DEBUT
David Klemmer - DEBUT
Josh Mansour - DEBUT
Sione Mata’utia - DEBUT
Matt Moylan - DEBUT
Josh Papalii - 4 Appearances
Corey Parker - 7 Appearances
Beau Scott - 1 Appearance
Cameron Smith © - 38 Appearances
Sam Thaiday - 23 Appearances
Daniel Tupou - DEBUT
Dylan Walker - DEBUT
Aaron Woods - DEBUT

George Burgess – 5 Appearances
Joe Burgess – DEBUT
Tom Burgess – 2 Appearances
Josh Charnley – 4 Appearances
Daryl Clark – DEBUT
Mike Cooper – DEBUT
Liam Farrell – 2 Appearances
Brett Ferres – 5 Appearances
James Graham – 20 Appearances
Ryan Hall – 16 Appearances
Zak Hardaker – 1 Appearance
Chris Hill – 6 Appearances
Josh Hodgson – DEBUT
Sean O’Loughlin (c) – 8 Appearances
Stefan Ratchford – DEBUT
Dan Sarginson – DEBUT
Michael Shenton – 6 Appearances
Matty Smith – DEBUT
Joel Tomkins – 2 Appearances
Sam Tomkins – 15 Appearances
Kallum Watkins – 6 Appearances
Joe Westerman – DEBUT
Elliott Whitehead – DEBUT
Gareth Widdop – 9 Appearances

Gerard Beale - 6 Appearances
Adam Blair - 25 Appearances
Jesse Bromwich - 9 Appearances
Lewis Brown - 5 Appearances
Greg Eastwood - 18 Appearances
Sosaia Feki - DEBUT
Kieran Foran - 15 Appearances
Tohu Harris - 2 Appearances
Siliva Havili - 1 Appearance
Peta Hiku - 1 Appearance
Shaun Johnson - 9 Appearances
Shaun Kenny-Dowall - 9 Appearances
Thomas Leuluai - 29 Appearances
Issac Luke - 27 Appearances
Simon Mannering - 35 Appearances
Suaia Matagi - DEBUT
Jason Nightingale - 19 Appearances
Kevin Proctor - 3 Appearances
Jason Taumalolo - DEBUT
Martin Taupau - 1 Appearance
Bodene Thompson - DEBUT
Manu Vatuvei - 24 Appearances
Dallin Watene-Zelezniak - DEBUT
Dean Whare - 8 Appearances

Leeson Ah Mau - 4 Appearances
David Fa'alogo - 4 Appearances
Pita Godinet - 5 Appearances
Tim Lafai - 3 Appearances
Joey Leilua - 4 Appearances
Isaac Liu - DEBUT
Dunamis Lui -DEBUT
Penani Manumalealii - 3 Appearances
Mose Masoe - 4 Appearances
Peter Mata'utia - DEBUT
Reni Maitua - 1 Appearance
Josh McGuire - 1 Appearance
Tautau Moga - DEBUT
Dominque Peyroux - DEBUT
Frank Pritchard - DEBUT
Ben Roberts - 8 Appearances
Tim Simona - DEBUT
Michael Sio - 3 Appearances
Kyle Stanley - DEBUT
Suaso Sue - 4 Appearances
Sam Tagataese - 1 Appearance
Daniel Vidot - 5 Appearances
Antonio Winterstein - 5 Appearances

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[Big Pete]

It all kicks off on Saturday, 4pm LIVE from Suncorp Stadium

England v Samoa will be on GEM from 3:55pm (Queensland Time)

While New Zealand vs Australia will kick off at 6:30pm on Channel 9 (Queensland Time)

Australia will be gunning for a record breaking 17 straight wins.

Teams should be named tomorrow.

 

[Mitch06]

Noticed RTS isn't in that New Zealand squad you have put up??

 

[Unbreakable]

Noticed RTS isn't in that New Zealand squad you have put up??

Sydney Roosters duo Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Jared Waerea-Hargreaves have withdrawn from the Kiwis' Four Nations team citing end-of-season fatigue.

Player burnout takes toll on Kiwis squad | SBS News

 

[Kimlo]

Wow, end of season fatigue? Bet you the club forced them to pull out.

 

[Harry Sack]

Anyone else think all of these injuries to the Aus squad is a good thing? I've gotten the feeling lately that the squad is getting....stagnant. Like they do enough to win and then back right off. When was the last time we blew a team away? Minnow nations excluded of course. I'm excited to see what this squad can do.

 

[Allo]

Anyone else think all of these injuries to the Aus squad is a good thing? I've gotten the feeling lately that the squad is getting....stagnant. Like they do enough to win and then back right off. When was the last time we blew a team away? Minnow nations excluded of course. I'm excited to see what this squad can do.

It's good because it's forced Sheenius's hand a bit with selections. The squad has been pretty much the same since about 2010-11, sans Locky, with minor rotations in certain positions.

Cronk, Slater, Smith, Gallen, Bird, Lewis, Thaiday, Parker, Twatmough, JT, Scott, Jennings, Inglis, Hayne.

That's basically been the core of every Kangas team in the past 5 years.

Now only half those guys are there and we're seeing Guerra, Papa, Cordner (yuck), Mansour, Johnston, Jackson, Moylan, Hunt and Walker getting look-ins. It'll work out better in the long run, assuming those guys continue to play well and earn their spots, as all the incumbents are 27-30's+ so they won't be around for too much longer. But really when it comes to IRL I don't think anyone would be too concerned if we started losing to the Poms or Kiwis a bit more. Only if the next-tier-down teams like your Samoas/Fijis and PNGs started getting us when we're considered 'full strength'

 

[Cult]

KANGAROOS SQUAD
Player - NRL Club - Junior Club
1. Greg Inglis - South Sydney Rabbitohs (Bowraville Tigers)
2. Josh Mansour - Penrith Panthers (St Johns/Kingsgrove Colts)
3. Michael Jennings - Sydney Roosters (St Marys/West City Tigers)
4. Dylan Walker - South Sydney Rabbitohs (Mascot Jets)
5. Daniel Tupou - Sydney Roosters (Berala Bears/Guildford Owls)
6. Daly Cherry-Evans - Manly Warringah Sea Eagles (Mackay Brothers)
7. Cooper Cronk - Melbourne Storm (Souths Acacia)
8. Aaron Woods - Wests Tigers (Leichhardt Juniors)
9. Cameron Smith (c) - Melbourne Storm (Logan Brothers)
10. Sam Thaiday - Brisbane Broncos (Townsville Brothers)
11. Beau Scott - Newcastle Knights (Picton Magpies)
12. Ryan Hoffman - Melbourne Storm (Campbelltown Collegians)
13. Greg Bird - Gold Coast Titans (West Maitland Red Dogs/ Maitland Pumpkin Pickers)
14. Robbie Farah - Wests Tigers (Enfield Federals/Leichhardt Wanderers)
15. Aidan Guerra - Sydney Roosters (Townsville Brothers)
16. Josh Papalii - Canberra Raiders (Logan Brothers)
17. Corey Parker - Brisbane Broncos (Logan Brothers)
18. Boyd Cordner - Sydney Roosters (Old Bar Pirates)
19. David Klemmer - Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs (All Saints)
20. Sione Mata’utia - Newcastle Knights (Raymond Terrace/South Newcastle)

 

[Cult]

What a terrible team. I hope we lose and Sheens gets sacked. How he couldn't keep the Tigers job but is the best man for the Australian job makes no sense. He put the players on notice during this 4 nations comp? Shouldn't they always be on notice? So disappointed with these selections.