POST GAME [2022 State of Origin - Game 2] NSW vs QLD

[Mr Fourex]

"We want a kid-friendly time": Origin start time up for discussion

The days of Origin finishing later than 10pm could be numbered.

www.zerotackle.com

Don't know if that was posted.

All three games will move back to a Wednesday night next year, with a 17th club forcing the NRL season to expand to 26 rounds thanks to a bye being included in every week of the regular season.

Was it the time difference between east coast and west that's upset "everyone".....?

Why are we going to the West Coast again?

...its a shithole.

 

[ivanhungryjak]

Can someone please knock this prick out.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Yep, second half they did. I think without that sin bin that would have been a very different game. We were doing well until Klein stepped in.

Yep......he was obviously told to influence the game.

I'd like to know the reasoning for each and every one of those six agains leading into half-time.

...and then try and tell me they weren't happening throughout the entire game.

Once again, the 6 again rule has fucked a good game of football

...it simply has to be be abolished.

 

[Mr Fourex]

I knew Burton would be good though. I keep saying it, he reminds me of Larkham.

....?

Who?

 

[Renegade]

....?

Who?

Stephen Larkham, former wallabies flyhalf.

 

[Mr Fourex]

I see....

yawnion .......

 

[Mr Fourex]

Yep......he was obviously told to influence the game.

I'd like to know the reasoning for each and every one of those six agains leading into half-time.

...and then try and tell me they weren't happening throughout the entire game.

Once again, the 6 again rule has fucked a good game of football

...it simply has to be be abolished.

Even die hard Blues supporters like Phil Gould could see something wasn't right with Klein's refereeing late in the 1st half......

"All those six agains he gave to get them into sin bin territory, you'd need a magnifying glass to work out exactly what had gone wrong or why it needed to be penalised.

"The fact that they're six agains and not penalty kicks for goal means they just give them away like smarties. You don't need it, it's Origin football."

"There was five in a row, it's a gee-up," a fuming Vautin added.

"No one knows what they're for. No one here knows, no one at home knows, we don't know and we're so-called experts."

 

[Mr Fourex]

The fact that Paul "King Grub" Gallen has come in to defend the referee's decisions really tells us all we need to know.
Its poorly hidden cheating at its best.

Paul Gallen himself wouldn't be earning what he does now..... if it weren't for his steroid (PED's) use earlier in his career.

 

[BruiserMk1]

You love to see it.
Toovey on NRL 360 tonight arguing with Kent regarding "what were the 6 agains for?" "They are subjective".

 

[Foordy]

You love to see it.
Toovey on NRL 360 tonight arguing with Kent regarding "what were the 6 agains for?" "They are subjective".

i had to laugh at Kent's hypocrisy

after game one he whinged about the refs ... then in that segment he used "referee's discretion' to defend the Kaufusi sin binning

 

[Sproj]

i had to laugh at Kent's hypocrisy

after game one he whinged about the refs ... then in that segment he used "referee's discretion' to defend the Kaufusi sin binning

I just wish Toovey had the ability to be more articulate because I find myself so often agreeing with him but he can't convey it in ways he should be able to to show up the other idiots on that show for what they are.

No one likes the 6 again rule (well unless you are one of the darling teams that benefit from it all the time), it is a blight on the game and origin 2 is just the latest in a long line of examples of games being ruined but this rule. It is only there to allow blatant turning of games and no accountability or right of reply for this.

I actually agree (and I think everyone does) that Kaufusi should have been penalised and even the binning (for what he did) isn't the biggest travesty but it was the repeated no idea why those repeated six agains occurred leading up to it. Klein was literally swinging his arm above his head for about a minute while calling multiple six agains and no one knows what for, I suspect even he doesn't know.

 

[Cult]

I just wish Toovey had the ability to be more articulate because I find myself so often agreeing with him but he can't convey it in ways he should be able to to show up the other idiots on that show for what they are.

No one likes the 6 again rule (well unless you are one of the darling teams that benefit from it all the time), it is a blight on the game and origin 2 is just the latest in a long line of examples of games being ruined but this rule. It is only there to allow blatant turning of games and no accountability or right of reply for this.

I actually agree (and I think everyone does) that Kaufusi should have been penalised and even the binning (for what he did) isn't the biggest travesty but it was the repeated no idea why those repeated six agains occurred leading up to it. Klein was literally swinging his arm above his head for about a minute while calling multiple six agains and no one knows what for, I suspect even he doesn't know.

When I did my refs course there were a billion hand signals we used to show non-verbally what a penalty was for. Now they just wave their hand and move on.

I swear the only way you can discuss decisions with a ref is if you organise a sneaky meeting with them after the game.

 

[BroncsFan]

I just wish Toovey had the ability to be more articulate because I find myself so often agreeing with him but he can't convey it in ways he should be able to to show up the other idiots on that show for what they are.

No one likes the 6 again rule (well unless you are one of the darling teams that benefit from it all the time), it is a blight on the game and origin 2 is just the latest in a long line of examples of games being ruined but this rule. It is only there to allow blatant turning of games and no accountability or right of reply for this.

I actually agree (and I think everyone does) that Kaufusi should have been penalised and even the binning (for what he did) isn't the biggest travesty but it was the repeated no idea why those repeated six agains occurred leading up to it. Klein was literally swinging his arm above his head for about a minute while calling multiple six agains and no one knows what for, I suspect even he doesn't know.

And then Kent was like "he warned them"... no he didn't... when in the flurry of 6 agains did he warn them. There is no time off or signal to flag the defending team that next one goes.

If he was yelling out his warning then only about 2-3 players immediately next to him heard him say anything.

He also failed to mention that the escort penalty that prolonged the six again onslaught was called by the bunker... the ref was happy to move on from that and had given qld the ball back until the bunker intervened.

At what point did the bunker ref start being able to call on field penalties during real time... and why does the bunker only do it occasionally... where were they when Munster incorrectly caught the ball on the full a couple weeks back?

They had literally minutes worth of clear vision showing the Munster call was incorrect, but within seconds of Origin 2 the bunker comes down with a penalty to overrule an onfield decision

 

[Nerd]

I see the Sydney based journo's are still trying to justify Klein's 5 minutes of madness before half time. The 6 again rule is a blight on the game, allows refs to incorrectly influence a result with no inspection of their decisions and led to a whole season of blow out scores that we will never see again.

If Klein is the best ref we've got the game is in trouble. Time to widen the ref gene pool and again allow Brisbane based refs in the NRL. With the Dolphins ensuring an extra game a week in Queensland the cost excuse of only having Sydney based refs goes out the window.

 

[Jedhead]

Not sure if it's just me but when I started watching the game last night I could not get the thought of Klien's last Sunday's origin II madness ruining what looked to be a absolute epic game. As such, I found myself looking at some of the calls last night and felt like I was watching our once great game slowly turn in to an embarrassing, make-it-up-as-you go joke. I turned it off after 20 minutes.

It's beginning to look like I'm falling out of love with our game and it's only Broncos games I now look forward to.

We all know the wierd and one-off dodgy, decisions we have to put up with during our games, so I'm dreading this feeling being amplified as the season goes on.

Just plain sick of our game being ruined by 6 again calls that cannot be challenged no matter how wrong they are, it's such a blight on the game.

 

[Sproj]

Not sure if it's just me but when I started watching the game last night I could not get the thought of Klien's last Sunday's origin II madness ruining what looked to be a absolute epic game. As such, I found myself looking at some of the calls last night and felt like I was watching our once great game slowly turn in to an embarrassing, make-it-up-as-you go joke. I turned it off after 20 minutes.

It's beginning to look like I'm falling out of love with our game and it's only Broncos games I now look forward to.

We all know the wierd and one-off dodgy, decisions we have to put up with during our games, so I'm dreading this feeling being amplified as the season goes on.

Just plain sick of our game being ruined by 6 again calls that cannot be challenged no matter how wrong they are, it's such a blight on the game.

James Graham worded it best, he asked who we are trying to cater to with these rule changes and no one could answer. We all know these so-called focus groups the NRL talks about never actually happened or if they did were basically Vlandys telling everyone what he wanted and get on board or get sacked.

Imagine trying to explain to someone trying to get into the sport who doesn’t grow up with it what just happened. You can’t and it comes across as so amateurish I reckon it turns potential fans away from the game because if even die hard fans can’t understand what’s going on, what hope do newbies have?

 

[Jedhead]

James Graham worded it best, he asked who we are trying to cater to with these rule changes and no one could answer. We all know these so-called focus groups the NRL talks about never actually happened or if they did were basically Vlandys telling everyone what he wanted and get on board or get sacked.

Imagine trying to explain to someone trying to get into the sport who doesn’t grow up with it what just happened. You can’t and it comes across as so amateurish I reckon it turns potential fans away from the game because if even die hard fans can’t understand what’s going on, what hope do newbies have?

Very true. I took my neighbour to a game (he's a Lions supporter btw) last year. After the first ten minutes everything was evenly fought then the ref started with his 6 again bullshit and the Broncos were being ran ragged. My neighbour asked me what had just happened to make us look so under pressure as we were cruising. The fact is he never even realised that we were getting pinged by 6 agains all he could see was the game's momentum change dramatically. When I tried to explain to him for ten or so minutes he ended the conversation by saying "no wonder your game is dying".

I mean FFS! What do you say to that?

 

[Kimlo]

James Graham worded it best, he asked who we are trying to cater to with these rule changes and no one could answer. We all know these so-called focus groups the NRL talks about never actually happened or if they did were basically Vlandys telling everyone what he wanted and get on board or get sacked.

Imagine trying to explain to someone trying to get into the sport who doesn’t grow up with it what just happened. You can’t and it comes across as so amateurish I reckon it turns potential fans away from the game because if even die hard fans can’t understand what’s going on, what hope do newbies have?

That's the thing, all the rules are BS and applied inconsistently.

I enjoy a bit of soccer, the rules are clear. Direct contact to leg - foul, first contact with ball - no foul, offside is clear as day no interpretation bs, the ball either cross the line for a goal or it doesn't.

How do you explain NRL rules to a newbie? It's fucking impossible. Oh he held down too long, but then the next set the other team holds down for longer each time? That's a head high hit but it's play on, but the next head high is a penalty. Offisde from kickoff only gets penalised once a month, all the other times we ignore it. Are teams going back the 10? Sometimes, but they only get penalised sometimes.

If the game wants any hope of being professional we need to have more black and white interpretations in particular around the ruck where there is the most wiggle room for the ref to control the game.

A simple fix would be, 3 seconds from first contact with defender, is automatically held and all players must release within 2 seconds. I'm not saying that's a perfect fix, I haven't given it that much thought, but right now the refs have way too much control over the result.

In Soccer, refs can't change the result without being obviously corrupt, in the NRL the refs just go back 9 instead of 10, give the other team an extra half second to hold on, no one is any wiser but the result is almost guaranteed to swing to the advantaged team.