2024 pre-season discussion: Pre-season Premiers

Anyone wants to have a laugh read Facebook comments about brisbane not being happy with the draw...

"Boohoo the broncos might need to travel out of Brisbane this year" is the most common comment... hahahahaha these are Sydney team fans! Not even joking, they are THAT stupid they don't realise hahaha... if we have 14 games in brisbane (highly likely) that is still less games in Sydney then every single Sydney team, plus they have the long travel of Wollongong, Newcastle and Canberra possibly all thrown in hahaha.

Our draw was the hardest last year, every single grading system showed it yet when we started winning they never mentioned it again and made out like we had some massive advantages. Same will happen this year no doubt. That 1st 5 rounds has already shown the nrls hand with us. Bring it on. Walters and the team obviously have an us vs the world mentality and the nrl is helping us by fucking us every year with the draw. We don't want Friday night games! Take them! Oh wait, you also want the TV money we generate to keep you pokies machine loving Sydney clubs alive you say? Tough choice then ain't it.
 
Lockysillegitimatechild said:
Anyone wants to have a laugh read Facebook comments about brisbane not being happy with the draw...

"Boohoo the broncos might need to travel out of Brisbane this year" is the most common comment... hahahahaha these are Sydney team fans! Not even joking, they are THAT stupid they don't realise hahaha... if we have 14 games in brisbane (highly likely) that is still less games in Sydney then every single Sydney team, plus they have the long travel of Wollongong, Newcastle and Canberra possibly all thrown in hahaha.

Our draw was the hardest last year, every single grading system showed it yet when we started winning they never mentioned it again and made out like we had some massive advantages. Same will happen this year no doubt. That 1st 5 rounds has already shown the nrls hand with us. Bring it on. Walters and the team obviously have an us vs the world mentality and the nrl is helping us by fucking us every year with the draw. We don't want Friday night games! Take them! Oh wait, you also want the TV money we generate to keep you pokies machine loving Sydney clubs alive you say? Tough choice then ain't it.
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Yeah, this.

I do love how they whinge about us not leaving QLD etc, it's glorious. Fucking peanuts
 
Found this on Reddit.

NRL players who played the most minutes in 2022, including Regular season, Finals, All Star Game, Origin matches, Prime Ministers XIII's and Internationals. (where they placed last year on rankings)​


  1. Stephen Crichton (Panthers, New South Wales, Samoa) 2,397 Minutes (6th, up 5)
  2. Dylan Edwards (Panthers, Australia) 2,333 Minutes (51st, up 49)
  3. Isaah Yeo (Panthers, New South Wales, Australia) 2,323 Minutes (14th, up 11)
  4. Daly Cherry-Evans (Sea Eagles, Queensland, PM XIII's, Australia) 2,301 Minutes (23rd, up 19)
  5. Kotoni Staggs (Broncos, Australia) 2,297 Minutes (52nd, up 47)
  6. Briton Nikora (Sharks, Maori, New Zealand) 2,267 Minutes (13th, up 7)
  7. Brian To'o (Panthers, New South Wales, Samoa) 2,247 Minutes (34th, up 27)
  8. Sunia Turuva (Panthers, Fiji) 2,234 Minutes (305th, up 297)
  9. Adam Pompey (Warriors, Maori) 2,223 Minutes (128th, Up 119)
  10. Cameron Munster (Storm, Queensland, Australia) 2,218 Minutes (18th, up 8)
  11. Matthew Timoko (Raiders, New Zealand) 2,174 Minutes (43rd, up 32)
  12. James Tedesco (Roosters, New South Wales, Australia) 2,165 Minutes (5th, down 7)
  13. Jamayne Isaako (Dolphins, New Zealand) 2,162 Minutes (218th, up 205)
  14. Harry Grant (Storm, Queensland, Australia) 2,160 Minutes (46th, up 32)
  15. Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow (Dolphins, Queensland, PM XIII's, Australia) 2,142 Minutes (171st, up 156)
  16. Marcelo Montoya (Warriors) 2,136 Minutes (139th, up 123)
  17. Selwyn Cobbo (Broncos, Indigenous, Queensland, Australia) 2,132 Minutes (81st, up 66)
  18. Bradman Best (Knights, New South Wales) 2,095 Minutes (195th, up 177)
  19. Haumole Olakau'atu (Sea Eagles, Tonga) 2,094 Minutes (101st, up 82)
  20. Ronaldo Mulitalo (Sharks, New Zealand) 2,080 Minutes (20th, =)
  21. Will Penisini (Eels, Tonga) 2,076 Minutes (4th, down 17)
  22. Alex Johnston (Rabbitohs, Papua New Guinea) 2,075 Minutes (9th, down 13)
  23. Herbie Farnworth (Broncos) 2,059 Minutes (163rd, up 140)
  24. Elliott Whitehead (Raiders, England) 2,059 Minutes (75th, up 51)
  25. Trent Loiero (Storm) 2,045 Minutes (301st, up 276)
  26. Ben Hunt (Dragons, Queensland, PM XIII's, Australia) 2,045 Minutes (11th, down 15)
  27. Luke Keary (Roosters) 2,025 Minutes (60th, up 33)
  28. Murray Taulagi (Cowboys, Queensland, PM XIII's, Samoa) 2,022 Minutes (25, down 3)
  29. Isaiah Papali'i (West Tigers, New Zealand) 2,015 Minutes (8th, down 21)
  30. Dominic Young (Knights) 2,011 Minutes (64th, up 34)
  31. Sione Katoa (Sharks) 2,000 Minutes (90th, up 59)
  32. Jesse Ramien (Sharks) 2,000 Minutes (58th, up 27)
  33. Nick Meaney (Storm) 1,981 Minutes (68th, up 35)
  34. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad (Warriors, New Zealand) 1,979 Minutes (220th, up 186)
  35. Ezra Mam (Broncos) 1,976 Minutes (204th, up 169)
  36. Cody Walker (Rabbitohs, Indigenous, New South Wales, PM XIII's) 1,975 Minutes (31st, down 5)
  37. Shaun Johnson (Warriors) 1,973 Minutes (96th, up 59)
  38. Will Warbrick (Storm) 1,972 Minutes (DNP)
  39. Blayke Brailey (Sharks) 1,968 Minutes (42nd, up 3)
  40. Reece Robson (Cowboys, New South Wales, PM XIII's) 1,955 Minutes (50th, up 10)
  41. Tyson Frizell (Knights, New South Wales, Tonga) 1,945 Minutes (170th, up 129)
  42. Tyrell Sloan (Dragons, Indigenous, PM XIII's) 1,940 Minutes (292nd, up 250)
  43. Moses Suli (Dragons, Tonga) 1,939 Minutes (83rd, up 40)
  44. Alofi'ana Khan-Pereira (Titans, PM XIII's) 1,925 Minutes (DNP)
  45. Lachlan Ilias (Rabbitohs) 1,922 Minutes (29th, Down 16)
  46. Damien Cook (Rabbitohs, New South Wales) 1,921 Minutes (57th, Up 11)
  47. Mikaele Ravalawa (Dragons, Fiji) 1,920 Minutes (179th, up 132)
  48. Reece Walsh (Broncos, Queensland) 1,920 Minutes (89th, up 42)
  49. Jahrome Hughes (Storm, New Zealand) 1,915 Minutes (56th, up 7)
  50. Chad Townsend (Cowboys) 1,904 Minutes (40th, down 10)
  51. Jarome Luai (Panthers, New South Wales) 1,902 Minutes (15th, down 36)
  52. Jake Averillo (Bulldogs) 1,896 Minutes (98th, up 46)
  53. Tom Dearden (Cowboys, PM XIII's) 1,884 Minutes (54th, up 1)
  54. Isaiah Tass (Rabbitohs, Indigenous) 1,880 Minutes (174th, up 120)
  55. Nat Butcher (Roosters) 1,867 Minutes (95th, up 40)
  56. Nathan Cleary (Panthers, New South Wales) 1,863 Minutes (55th, down 1)
  57. Greg Marzhew (Knights, Samoa) 1,862 Minutes (162nd, up 105)
  58. Nicho Hynes (Sharks, Indigenous, New South Wales, PM XIII's, Australia) 1,859 Minutes (39th, down 19)
  59. Jamal Fogarty (Raiders) 1,856 Minutes (185th, up 126)
  60. Hudson Young (Raiders, New South Wales) 1,848 Minutes (65th, up 5)
  61. Matt Burton (Bulldogs) 1,845 Minutes (22nd, down 39)
  62. Mathew Feagai (Dragons) 1,840 Minutes (94th, up 32)
  63. Junior Tupou (West Tigers, Tonga) 1,840 Minutes (360th, up 298)
  64. Maika Sivo (Eels, Fiji) 1,836 Minutes (
  65. Kurt Capewell (Broncos) 1,829 Minutes (
  66. Valentine Holmes (Cowboys, Queensland, Australia) 1,825 Minutes (
  67. Clint Gutherson (Eels, New South Wales) 1,822 Minutes (
  68. Patrick Carrigan (Broncos, Queensland, Australia) 1,813 Minutes (
  69. Bryce Cartwright (Eels) 1,799 Minutes (
  70. David Fifita (Titans, Queensland) 1,797 Minutes (
  71. Joseph Manu (Roosters, New Zealand) 1,791 Minutes (
  72. Cameron Murray (Rabbitohs, New South Wales, PM XIII's, Australia) 1,785 Minutes (
  73. Dane Gagai (Knights) 1,781 Minutes (
  74. Reed Mahoney (Bulldogs) 1,777 Minutes (32nd, down 42)
  75. John Bateman (West Tigers, England) 1,777 Minutes (DNP)
  76. Hayze Perham (Bulldogs, Maori) 1,765 Minutes (339th, up 263)
  77. Isaiya Katoa (Dolphins, Tonga) 1,756 Minutes (DNP)
  78. Siosifa Talakai (Sharks) 1,754 Minutes (
  79. Adam Reynolds (Broncos) 1,750 Minutes (123rd, up 44)
  80. Peta Hiku (Cowboys) 1,750 Minutes (3rd, down 76)
  81. Toluta'u Koula (Sea Eagles, Tonga) 1,748 Minutes (78, down 3)
  82. Tyson Gamble (Knights) 1,743 Minutes (297th, up 215)
  83. Jackson Ford (Warriors) 1,734 Minutes (415th, up 332)
  84. Xavier Coates (Storm, Queensland) 1,730 Minutes (146th, up 62)
  85. Josh King (Storm) 1,716 Minutes (143rd, up 58)
  86. Reimis Smith (Storm) 1,711 Minutes (284th, up 198)
  87. Jordan Riki (Broncos, Maori) 1,692 Minutes (97th, down 10)
  88. Campbell Graham (Rabbitohs) 1,681 Minutes (79th, down 9)
  89. Brian Kelly (Titans) 1,670 Minutes (154th, up 65)
  90. Zac Lomax (Dragons, PM XIII's) 1,668 Minutes (48th, down 32)
  91. Jack Wighton (Raiders, Indigenous) 1,650 Minutes (36th, down 55)
  92. Jordan Rapana (Raiders, Maori) 1,647 Minutes (35, down 57)
  93. Keaon Koloamatangi (Rabbitohs, New South Wales, Tonga) 1,646 Minutes (7th, down 86)
  94. Tanah Boyd (Titans) 1,646 Minutes (217th, up 124)
  95. Phillip Sami (Titans) 1,646 Minutes (203rd, up 110)
  96. Addin Fonua-Blake (Warriors, Tonga) 1,646 Minutes (134th, up 38)
  97. Connelly Lemuelu (Dolphins, Samoa) 1,646 Minutes (418th, up 320)
  98. Jackson Hastings (Knights) 1,644 Minutes (165th, up 67)
  99. Mitchell Moses (Eels, New South Wales) 1,640 Minutes (10th, down 89)
  100. Reuben Garrick (Sea Eagles) 1,626 Minutes (87th, down 13)
 
McHunt said:
Found this on Reddit.

NRL players who played the most minutes in 2022, including Regular season, Finals, All Star Game, Origin matches, Prime Ministers XIII's and Internationals. (where they placed last year on rankings)​


  1. Stephen Crichton (Panthers, New South Wales, Samoa) 2,397 Minutes (6th, up 5)
  2. Dylan Edwards (Panthers, Australia) 2,333 Minutes (51st, up 49)
  3. Isaah Yeo (Panthers, New South Wales, Australia) 2,323 Minutes (14th, up 11)
  4. Daly Cherry-Evans (Sea Eagles, Queensland, PM XIII's, Australia) 2,301 Minutes (23rd, up 19)
  5. Kotoni Staggs (Broncos, Australia) 2,297 Minutes (52nd, up 47)
  6. Briton Nikora (Sharks, Maori, New Zealand) 2,267 Minutes (13th, up 7)
  7. Brian To'o (Panthers, New South Wales, Samoa) 2,247 Minutes (34th, up 27)
  8. Sunia Turuva (Panthers, Fiji) 2,234 Minutes (305th, up 297)
  9. Adam Pompey (Warriors, Maori) 2,223 Minutes (128th, Up 119)
  10. Cameron Munster (Storm, Queensland, Australia) 2,218 Minutes (18th, up 8)
  11. Matthew Timoko (Raiders, New Zealand) 2,174 Minutes (43rd, up 32)
  12. James Tedesco (Roosters, New South Wales, Australia) 2,165 Minutes (5th, down 7)
  13. Jamayne Isaako (Dolphins, New Zealand) 2,162 Minutes (218th, up 205)
  14. Harry Grant (Storm, Queensland, Australia) 2,160 Minutes (46th, up 32)
  15. Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow (Dolphins, Queensland, PM XIII's, Australia) 2,142 Minutes (171st, up 156)
  16. Marcelo Montoya (Warriors) 2,136 Minutes (139th, up 123)
  17. Selwyn Cobbo (Broncos, Indigenous, Queensland, Australia) 2,132 Minutes (81st, up 66)
  18. Bradman Best (Knights, New South Wales) 2,095 Minutes (195th, up 177)
  19. Haumole Olakau'atu (Sea Eagles, Tonga) 2,094 Minutes (101st, up 82)
  20. Ronaldo Mulitalo (Sharks, New Zealand) 2,080 Minutes (20th, =)
  21. Will Penisini (Eels, Tonga) 2,076 Minutes (4th, down 17)
  22. Alex Johnston (Rabbitohs, Papua New Guinea) 2,075 Minutes (9th, down 13)
  23. Herbie Farnworth (Broncos) 2,059 Minutes (163rd, up 140)
  24. Elliott Whitehead (Raiders, England) 2,059 Minutes (75th, up 51)
  25. Trent Loiero (Storm) 2,045 Minutes (301st, up 276)
  26. Ben Hunt (Dragons, Queensland, PM XIII's, Australia) 2,045 Minutes (11th, down 15)
  27. Luke Keary (Roosters) 2,025 Minutes (60th, up 33)
  28. Murray Taulagi (Cowboys, Queensland, PM XIII's, Samoa) 2,022 Minutes (25, down 3)
  29. Isaiah Papali'i (West Tigers, New Zealand) 2,015 Minutes (8th, down 21)
  30. Dominic Young (Knights) 2,011 Minutes (64th, up 34)
  31. Sione Katoa (Sharks) 2,000 Minutes (90th, up 59)
  32. Jesse Ramien (Sharks) 2,000 Minutes (58th, up 27)
  33. Nick Meaney (Storm) 1,981 Minutes (68th, up 35)
  34. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad (Warriors, New Zealand) 1,979 Minutes (220th, up 186)
  35. Ezra Mam (Broncos) 1,976 Minutes (204th, up 169)
  36. Cody Walker (Rabbitohs, Indigenous, New South Wales, PM XIII's) 1,975 Minutes (31st, down 5)
  37. Shaun Johnson (Warriors) 1,973 Minutes (96th, up 59)
  38. Will Warbrick (Storm) 1,972 Minutes (DNP)
  39. Blayke Brailey (Sharks) 1,968 Minutes (42nd, up 3)
  40. Reece Robson (Cowboys, New South Wales, PM XIII's) 1,955 Minutes (50th, up 10)
  41. Tyson Frizell (Knights, New South Wales, Tonga) 1,945 Minutes (170th, up 129)
  42. Tyrell Sloan (Dragons, Indigenous, PM XIII's) 1,940 Minutes (292nd, up 250)
  43. Moses Suli (Dragons, Tonga) 1,939 Minutes (83rd, up 40)
  44. Alofi'ana Khan-Pereira (Titans, PM XIII's) 1,925 Minutes (DNP)
  45. Lachlan Ilias (Rabbitohs) 1,922 Minutes (29th, Down 16)
  46. Damien Cook (Rabbitohs, New South Wales) 1,921 Minutes (57th, Up 11)
  47. Mikaele Ravalawa (Dragons, Fiji) 1,920 Minutes (179th, up 132)
  48. Reece Walsh (Broncos, Queensland) 1,920 Minutes (89th, up 42)
  49. Jahrome Hughes (Storm, New Zealand) 1,915 Minutes (56th, up 7)
  50. Chad Townsend (Cowboys) 1,904 Minutes (40th, down 10)
  51. Jarome Luai (Panthers, New South Wales) 1,902 Minutes (15th, down 36)
  52. Jake Averillo (Bulldogs) 1,896 Minutes (98th, up 46)
  53. Tom Dearden (Cowboys, PM XIII's) 1,884 Minutes (54th, up 1)
  54. Isaiah Tass (Rabbitohs, Indigenous) 1,880 Minutes (174th, up 120)
  55. Nat Butcher (Roosters) 1,867 Minutes (95th, up 40)
  56. Nathan Cleary (Panthers, New South Wales) 1,863 Minutes (55th, down 1)
  57. Greg Marzhew (Knights, Samoa) 1,862 Minutes (162nd, up 105)
  58. Nicho Hynes (Sharks, Indigenous, New South Wales, PM XIII's, Australia) 1,859 Minutes (39th, down 19)
  59. Jamal Fogarty (Raiders) 1,856 Minutes (185th, up 126)
  60. Hudson Young (Raiders, New South Wales) 1,848 Minutes (65th, up 5)
  61. Matt Burton (Bulldogs) 1,845 Minutes (22nd, down 39)
  62. Mathew Feagai (Dragons) 1,840 Minutes (94th, up 32)
  63. Junior Tupou (West Tigers, Tonga) 1,840 Minutes (360th, up 298)
  64. Maika Sivo (Eels, Fiji) 1,836 Minutes (
  65. Kurt Capewell (Broncos) 1,829 Minutes (
  66. Valentine Holmes (Cowboys, Queensland, Australia) 1,825 Minutes (
  67. Clint Gutherson (Eels, New South Wales) 1,822 Minutes (
  68. Patrick Carrigan (Broncos, Queensland, Australia) 1,813 Minutes (
  69. Bryce Cartwright (Eels) 1,799 Minutes (
  70. David Fifita (Titans, Queensland) 1,797 Minutes (
  71. Joseph Manu (Roosters, New Zealand) 1,791 Minutes (
  72. Cameron Murray (Rabbitohs, New South Wales, PM XIII's, Australia) 1,785 Minutes (
  73. Dane Gagai (Knights) 1,781 Minutes (
  74. Reed Mahoney (Bulldogs) 1,777 Minutes (32nd, down 42)
  75. John Bateman (West Tigers, England) 1,777 Minutes (DNP)
  76. Hayze Perham (Bulldogs, Maori) 1,765 Minutes (339th, up 263)
  77. Isaiya Katoa (Dolphins, Tonga) 1,756 Minutes (DNP)
  78. Siosifa Talakai (Sharks) 1,754 Minutes (
  79. Adam Reynolds (Broncos) 1,750 Minutes (123rd, up 44)
  80. Peta Hiku (Cowboys) 1,750 Minutes (3rd, down 76)
  81. Toluta'u Koula (Sea Eagles, Tonga) 1,748 Minutes (78, down 3)
  82. Tyson Gamble (Knights) 1,743 Minutes (297th, up 215)
  83. Jackson Ford (Warriors) 1,734 Minutes (415th, up 332)
  84. Xavier Coates (Storm, Queensland) 1,730 Minutes (146th, up 62)
  85. Josh King (Storm) 1,716 Minutes (143rd, up 58)
  86. Reimis Smith (Storm) 1,711 Minutes (284th, up 198)
  87. Jordan Riki (Broncos, Maori) 1,692 Minutes (97th, down 10)
  88. Campbell Graham (Rabbitohs) 1,681 Minutes (79th, down 9)
  89. Brian Kelly (Titans) 1,670 Minutes (154th, up 65)
  90. Zac Lomax (Dragons, PM XIII's) 1,668 Minutes (48th, down 32)
  91. Jack Wighton (Raiders, Indigenous) 1,650 Minutes (36th, down 55)
  92. Jordan Rapana (Raiders, Maori) 1,647 Minutes (35, down 57)
  93. Keaon Koloamatangi (Rabbitohs, New South Wales, Tonga) 1,646 Minutes (7th, down 86)
  94. Tanah Boyd (Titans) 1,646 Minutes (217th, up 124)
  95. Phillip Sami (Titans) 1,646 Minutes (203rd, up 110)
  96. Addin Fonua-Blake (Warriors, Tonga) 1,646 Minutes (134th, up 38)
  97. Connelly Lemuelu (Dolphins, Samoa) 1,646 Minutes (418th, up 320)
  98. Jackson Hastings (Knights) 1,644 Minutes (165th, up 67)
  99. Mitchell Moses (Eels, New South Wales) 1,640 Minutes (10th, down 89)
  100. Reuben Garrick (Sea Eagles) 1,626 Minutes (87th, down 13)
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I saw this as well and thought Patty and Payne would be higher, but realised they rarely played 80mins... so won't be accumulating as many minutes.

Would be interested to see similar, but how many actual games they were involved in... as that would then take into account training, etc. where they had to prep for the game as well as actually taking part in it.

Feels like Patty and Payne had a huge workload this year and shouldn't be back at training until mid-January so they can actually have a break before the season starts up again... except they'll be on a 14hr flight to the states
 
Happy to see Reyno climbing so many places. It suggests the club knows what it's doing in maintaining his body going into his twilight years.
 
I'm honestly getting excited for what Willison will bring in 2024. If he can get on top of his injuries, he has the potential to be better than Flegs even. A fit and firing middle of Haas, Carrigan and Willison can take it to Penrith. The big question for me is how we go about replacing Herbie. I think Selwyn could be elite at centre and I LOVE Aquaman, I think he has the potential to turn out a bit like Addo-Carr which is exciting.
 
Sproj said:
I'm honestly getting excited for what Willison will bring in 2024. If he can get on top of his injuries, he has the potential to be better than Flegs even. A fit and firing middle of Haas, Carrigan and Willison can take it to Penrith. The big question for me is how we go about replacing Herbie. I think Selwyn could be elite at centre and I LOVE Aquaman, I think he has the potential to turn out a bit like Addo-Carr which is exciting.
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As long as aquaman doesn't participate in the Koori knockout I'm fine
 
I got bored and made a tier list for 2024. Knights was a tough one, but I think if they don't go with the Ponga experiment at 6 again they should get some more wins in 2024. Warriors might drop off a bit, Bulldogs have some new players to help get a few more wins, Raiders without Wighton might struggle initially, and Cowboys will still suck. I probably should have put the Dolphins higher (but it kinda depends how Souths and the Roosters go).

Feel free to make your own: https://tiermaker.com/create/nrl-ladder-2023-1414774

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Santa said:
I got bored and made a tier list for 2024. Knights was a tough one, but I think if they don't go with the Ponga experiment at 6 again they should get some more wins in 2024. Warriors might drop off a bit, Bulldogs have to players to get a few more wins, Raiders without Wighton might struggle initially, and Cowboys will still suck. I probably should have put the Dolphins higher (but it kinda depends how Souths and the Roosters go).

Feel free to make your own: https://tiermaker.com/create/nrl-ladder-2023-1414774

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Oops Sorry Mum I still Trump over you 1 vs 17 a third wooden spoon in 3 years 🤣🤣🤣 well she starts off lightly because the Tigers have a bye in round 1
 
Santa said:
I got bored and made a tier list for 2024. Knights was a tough one, but I think if they don't go with the Ponga experiment at 6 again they should get some more wins in 2024. Warriors might drop off a bit, Bulldogs have to players to get a few more wins, Raiders without Wighton might struggle initially, and Cowboys will still suck. I probably should have put the Dolphins higher (but it kinda depends how Souths and the Roosters go).

Feel free to make your own: https://tiermaker.com/create/nrl-ladder-2023-1414774

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Dragons and Raiders squads look horrendous this year.

I think raiders will finish around bottom 4, but should have enough to guts out some wins.. if Ricky loses the dressing room they're spoon contenders.

Dragons I think have the worst squad in the comp and their captain and best player doesn't even want to be there. If Bhunt leaves they're in all sorts.

The issue with the tigers to me is the coaching... I think the appointment of Sheens has set them way further back then what they should be.

Their squad is better than dragons, but Sheens was absolutely hopeless with what he had available... could tell his methods were well outdated.


Sharks aren't a top 4-6 team... they just get a piss weak draw every year. I'm starting to wonder if Fitz actually is a good coach. I don't think he's ruthless enough.

He kept plodders like Wade Graham in the team each week even though him coming on as a ball playing lock didn't suit the style he wanted to play. In any given game he would have 3 different types of lock operating through the 80mins... Finucane as a stock standard 3rd prop, McInness as a small mobile middle getting quick ptb and then Graham coming on as a ball playing pass first lock.

How can a team function if the coach can't decide on which way he wants the team to play.
 
Santa said:
I got bored and made a tier list for 2024. Knights was a tough one, but I think if they don't go with the Ponga experiment at 6 again they should get some more wins in 2024. Warriors might drop off a bit, Bulldogs have to players to get a few more wins, Raiders without Wighton might struggle initially, and Cowboys will still suck. I probably should have put the Dolphins higher (but it kinda depends how Souths and the Roosters go).

Feel free to make your own: https://tiermaker.com/create/nrl-ladder-2023-1414774

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Knights in top 3 is a pretty wild prediction. I actually think they overachieved this year
 
BroncsFan said:
Dragons and Raiders squads look horrendous this year.

I think raiders will finish around bottom 4, but should have enough to guts out some wins.. if Ricky loses the dressing room they're spoon contenders.

Dragons I think have the worst squad in the comp and their captain and best player doesn't even want to be there. If Bhunt leaves they're in all sorts.

The issue with the tigers to me is the coaching... I think the appointment of Sheens has set them way further back then what they should be.

Their squad is better than dragons, but Sheens was absolutely hopeless with what he had available... could tell his methods were well outdated.


Sharks aren't a top 4-6 team... they just get a piss weak draw every year. I'm starting to wonder if Fitz actually is a good coach. I don't think he's ruthless enough.

He kept plodders like Wade Graham in the team each week even though him coming on as a ball playing lock didn't suit the style he wanted to play. In any given game he would have 3 different types of lock operating through the 80mins... Finucane as a stock standard 3rd prop, McInness as a small mobile middle getting quick ptb and then Graham coming on as a ball playing pass first lock.

How can a team function if the coach can't decide on which way he wants the team to play.
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I think the Sharks, with their easy draw, have enough to scrape into the top 4. They'll lose to the top teams, but put monster scores on everyone else. They have a lot of speed in their backs.
 
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