Anthony Seibold is no longer our coach

[Foordy]

Shame Pies didn't take that on board too.

he didn't have anyone as seasoned or as respected as Petero to give him that same advice

 

[Thelmus]

Exactly this. One of the major challenges i think seibold experienced was that he coached/taught people how it made sense to him rather than looking at his team and coaching/teaching them in a method that met their needs.

I think that may be why WB and bellamy have been so successful. They keep things simple for the majority of the team and gave the strategy/game plan to the players with brains i.e lockyer,alf, kevie, cronk, smith etc.

It's worth noting they're all spine players but not every spine player has that capacity. I get the impression a lot (like Milford) play pure off instinct and probably couldnt tell you why they did what they did when. It probably felt "good"and so they went with it.
In the end you need to build a Melbourne storm in years, not months, picking players for purpose.
Bennet and Walters will see what they have got and make it work. A player here to fix up a deficiency or lend to a team strength but no epic over-arching plan like siebold or Bellamy.
It's probably why players go away from the storm and fall away a little.
The funny thing is Bellamy also has a Milford type player in Munster (and before him Slater) but they're few and the team works for them, not the other way.
I think that is what Walters wants at the broncos with Milford. Unlike the storm the players plans around what he does will be looser (hence the older croft but less individually accomplished and not the younger self-confident dearden) with the spine swallowing their own creativity a bit to work with him and then organising the others. Milford is Walter's langer, and croft will be the modern Walters.
The question will be if players like Isaako, croft, Turpin and Asiata can drive the others.
I suppose it begs the question of why put all your eggs in the one basket with Milford and the answer is pretty simple: there's no one else with that X Factor. No one else can pull a rabbit out of a hat and dominate.
Milford is the kind of player who grows with more ball in hand. Walters has stake his coaching career on it.

 

[Jedhead]

Exactly this. One of the major challenges i think seibold experienced was that he coached/taught people how it made sense to him rather than looking at his team and coaching/teaching them in a method that met their needs.

I think that may be why WB and bellamy have been so successful. They keep things simple for the majority of the team and gave the strategy/game plan to the players with brains i.e lockyer,alf, kevie, cronk, smith etc.

I dearly hope he hasn't staked his coaching career on it. In fact, I hope we allow him to stick around long enough to at least try plan B if what he has to work with at the moment does not work. After all, this is the clusterfuck left behind by the last bluffer. I think all we should be hoping for is to see a marked improvement to confirm that Kevvie is able to coach at this level and then we'll need to remain patient until such times as he is able to build the team he wants.

 

[Sproj]

It's worth noting they're all spine players but not every spine player has that capacity. I get the impression a lot (like Milford) play pure off instinct and probably couldnt tell you why they did what they did when. It probably felt "good"and so they went with it.
In the end you need to build a Melbourne storm in years, not months, picking players for purpose.
Bennet and Walters will see what they have got and make it work. A player here to fix up a deficiency or lend to a team strength but no epic over-arching plan like siebold or Bellamy.
It's probably why players go away from the storm and fall away a little.
The funny thing is Bellamy also has a Milford type player in Munster (and before him Slater) but they're few and the team works for them, not the other way.
I think that is what Walters wants at the broncos with Milford. Unlike the storm the players plans around what he does will be looser (hence the older croft but less individually accomplished and not the younger self-confident dearden) with the spine swallowing their own creativity a bit to work with him and then organising the others. Milford is Walter's langer, and croft will be the modern Walters.
The question will be if players like Isaako, croft, Turpin and Asiata can drive the others.
I suppose it begs the question of why put all your eggs in the one basket with Milford and the answer is pretty simple: there's no one else with that X Factor. No one else can pull a rabbit out of a hat and dominate.
Milford is the kind of player who grows with more ball in hand. Walters has stake his coaching career on it.

Nice post but I don't think Dearden is self-confident, he appears to actually be a bit timid.

 

[Harry Sack]

I want us to win of course, but now I really want us to win well. Whether that be through a big score or just great execution just so I can hear his analysis through extremely clenched teeth.

 

[Sproj]

I want us to win of course, but now I really want us to win well. Whether that be through a big score or just great execution just so I can hear his analysis through extremely clenched teeth.

You mean Seibold? Why would you want to listen to him? He has the personality of a wet sock and a voice like nails on a chalk board.

 

[Harry Sack]

You mean Seibold? Why would you want to listen to him? He has the personality of a wet sock and a voice like nails on a chalk board.

Indeed he does. I'd just like to hear what he says about us after a good win though. Hopefully there will be tears.

 

[Nashy]

Indeed he does. I'd just like to hear what he says about us after a good win though. Hopefully there will be tears.

I'd prefer rocking in the corner and the realisation that he's a useless prick who doesn't even deserve to write these shitty videos.

 

[Bull Shark]

May not interest everyone now the Seibold era is in the rear view mirror but here’s the latest podcast in which he’s appeared.. and it’s by far his most candid in terms of what went wrong up here, at least in his words.

 

[broncsgoat]

Cliffs?

 

[abashii]

Pies can get fucken fucked the silly fat ****. Burned my fucken team to the ground for millions of bucks then bellyflops straight into another gig. **** should be banned from rugby league for life imo.

 

[McHunt]

May not interest everyone now the Seibold era is in the rear view mirror but here’s the latest podcast in which he’s appeared.. and it’s by far his most candid in terms of what went wrong up here, at least in his words.

**** that **** to **** and back. Even the sound of his voice is enough to trigger my gag reflex.

 

[broncsgoat]

Pies can get fucken fucked the silly fat ****. Burned my fucken team to the ground for millions of bucks then bellyflops straight into another gig. **** should be banned from rugby league for life imo.

 

[Big Pete]

Listening to it now...

- Starts off with an overview on his time at South Sydney and how he helped them improve from a team that finished outside the finals to a team that made it into a Prelim Final against the Sydney Roosters.

- He was effectively offered a 6 year deal at the Broncos compared to a 3 year deal at South Sydney and says the money was just too good to refuse even though everyone thought he made the wrong decision.

- Says there was angst at the club because they didn't hire an ex-legend (ie Kevin Walters) and not only did things fail to improve they went backwards

- In the end he had to resign because as coach he had to take responsibility and also just to get away from the environment

- Upon reflection he felt like he tried too hard. At South Sydney he'd give everyone one day off a week where he could work from home and it was just an opportunity to be around the family and when he'd return to training everyone would be motivated

- At Brisbane he lived in a single bedroom apartment and would come into work everyday at 5am in the morning and worked himself into exhaustion. Everything he did was picked apart and he admits he didn't handle the criticism well.

- When he signed the long term contract it was his understanding that they wanted to rebuild and bring this young group of players through. However when teething problems started to present themselves the board began to panic which made things difficult.

- Going back to his earlier point about over-working, in hindsight he believes he didn't have the work-life balance and players lost faith in him because they could sense the amount of stress he was under and how agitated he would get from the outside noise

- Goes on a spiel about what he learned at Melbourne and talks about this Pat Riley quote he learned from Bellyache and Ponissi 'keep the main thing the main thing'. In context what he's saying is that his job should have been to coach the team. However at the Broncos he lost trust in those around him and felt like he had to do their jobs. Reading between the lines he made a point to praise the General Manager of Football at South Sydney Shane Richardson and the support he gave him. He doesn't name names but says he wasn't offered the same support at the Broncos so he didn't delegate

- Talks about how important it is to form connections with the players and building relationships. He admits at South Sydney he made it a point to get to know players and would find time to get to know his players better and they weren't afraid to get emotional talking about their hardships and what it took to get to that level. Whereas in Brisbane because he came in with six weeks before trials he had to implement all these changes and had to be professional from the get

- Spoke about the social media incident and how the Australian government the other week passed new legislation that requires social media platforms to remove harmful material and provide the identity and contact information of those responsible.

- Seibs TV recommendation is Yellowstone. His podcast recommendation is Victory The Podcast aka the Entorouge podcast.

It probably sounds like he's deflecting but a lot of what he says was prefaced with him taking responsibility.

 

[broncsgoat]

Listening to it now...

- Starts off with an overview on his time at South Sydney and how he helped them improve from a team that finished outside the finals to a team that made it into a Prelim Final against the Sydney Roosters.

- He was effectively offered a 6 year deal at the Broncos compared to a 3 year deal at South Sydney and says the money was just too good to refuse even though everyone thought he made the wrong decision.

- Says there was angst at the club because they didn't hire an ex-legend (ie Kevin Walters) and not only did things fail to improve they went backwards

- In the end he had to resign because as coach he had to take responsibility and also just to get away from the environment

- Upon reflection he felt like he tried too hard. At South Sydney he'd give everyone one day off a week where he could work from home and it was just an opportunity to be around the family and when he'd return to training everyone would be motivated

- At Brisbane he lived in a single bedroom apartment and would come into work everyday at 5am in the morning and worked himself into exhaustion. Everything he did was picked apart and he admits he didn't handle the criticism well.

- When he signed the long term contract it was his understanding that they wanted to rebuild and bring this young group of players through. However when teething problems started to present themselves the board began to panic which made things difficult.

- Going back to his earlier point about over-working, in hindsight he believes he didn't have the work-life balance and players lost faith in him because they could sense the amount of stress he was under and how agitated he would get from the outside noise

- Goes on a spiel about what he learned at Melbourne and talks about this Pat Riley quote he learned from Bellyache and Ponissi 'keep the main thing the main thing'. In context what he's saying is that his job should have been to coach the team. However at the Broncos he lost trust in those around him and felt like he had to do their jobs. Reading between the lines he made a point to praise the General Manager of Football at South Sydney Shane Richardson and the support he gave him. He doesn't name names but says he wasn't offered the same support at the Broncos so he didn't delegate

- Talks about how important it is to form connections with the players and building relationships. He admits at South Sydney he made it a point to get to know players and would find time to get to know his players better and they weren't afraid to get emotional talking about their hardships and what it took to get to that level. Whereas in Brisbane because he came in with six weeks before trials he had to implement all these changes and had to be professional from the get

- Spoke about the social media incident and how the Australian government the other week passed new legislation that requires social media platforms to remove harmful material and provide the identity and contact information of those responsible.

- Seibs TV recommendation is Yellowstone. His podcast recommendation is Victory The Podcast aka the Entorouge podcast.

It probably sounds like I'm deflecting but a lot of what he says was prefaced with him taking responsibility.

Thanks, you’re a strong man to be able to sit there and listen to that voice waffle on

 

[Shane Tronc]

I think in view of how much has changed since Donaghy and Ikin have come in, it’s clear that Seibold was not our main problem. Nolan and White are far more responsible for the regression of the club. I still don’t rate him as a coach though. He still should’ve carried himself better than he did.

 

[heartly87]

I think in view of how much has changed since Donaghy and Ikin have come in, it’s clear that Seibold was not our main problem. Nolan and White are far more responsible for the regression of the club. I still don’t rate him as a coach though. He still should’ve carried himself better than he did.

I think there is a lot to do about these blokes, Kev started strong and then you could see him tracking into Siebs land. Didn't look confident, was drained emotionally and physically exhausted. Because nobody above him was doing their jobs or providing any support. It would have been a nightmare for Siebs, he had nobody coming, at least Kev knew he had DD in bound.

Ikin sitting on the sideline is a big deal for me, it shows he cares and is invested in the team. He is deliberately not sitting in the box so a not take any of the praise for what happens on the field. The players also know that the GM of football is there watching them and it can make or break their careers as Broncos. I am really looking forward to seeing any change in Kev's overall presentation, if he relaxes more and settles into his primary role as a coach.

 

[theshed]

Pies can get fucken fucked the silly fat ****. Burned my fucken team to the ground for millions of bucks then bellyflops straight into another gig. **** should be banned from rugby league for life imo.

Fair and well articulated perspective.