Are you happy with the club's issues management this week?

[Steve]

Alledged sexual assault
Not really. The club should have been on the front foot from day 1 condemning the players for being out on a bender and standing them down immediately. They may not be guilty of sexual assault but they are guilty of being dicks and trashing the club's brand in partaking in a public gang bang. With the investigation still going standing those players down for this week minimum would have taken a lot of heat off the club.

The club went to ground pretty much from the get go issuing only printed statements one per day. At least give the media something Bruno. One pagers simply won't cut it. Cullen has had a shocking week IMO. Dragging the netballer done for DUI into the fray was a stunt and it smacked of desperation. Many fans were appalled at some of the player behaviour and for Bruno to simply saying there will be a post-season review doesn't cut it. The club needed to be decisive and they weren't.

Casablanca
Mostly yes. The most important thing about this incident was Lockyer's immediate denial. That was good enough for me. I'm grateful Cullen and Bennett have backed him too. I think the public are a skeptical of the allegation judging by the Brisbane Times article (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/sp ... 24761.html) News Ltd have tried to beef it up but the bottom line is there is no conclusive evidence it was the skipper who supposedly "tackled" the publican. Now part of me wishes the tackler had cut him in half.

Cullen was a smartarse in yesterday's press conference though. To say he recognised the Broncos in the footage and then refuse to name them wasn't cool. His tone was arrogant. Even if the media are being dicks he didn't have to be so blunt. Why not just say the footage was inconclusive and leave it at that?

I'm interested to know what other fans think of the club's performance this week? Have they handled themselves well or has it been a balls up? Do tell...

 

[Hamm.0]

Yes.
IMO.

Alleged incident;
Treated very well. It was a mere allegation, the club had their hands tied in what they could actually say....and only a fool would rush into anything without being deleivered all the evidence. As it turned out, the incident was "alleged", no conrete evidence of any wrong doing by any player came to light, hence all charges were dropped.

Bruno couldn't give the media anything, he had nothing to give the vultures, who were perched waiting for the carcus to die.

Casablancas;
Absolutly. The club knows, I know, the world knows; that footage is LOL'able. Their captain denies it and they stood by him. In fact, I would have liked the Broncos legal team to persue an apology from Casablanca's management, however dragging this through the mud would not be in the club's best interest.

The club's conduct guidelines;
No. Very unhappy. For fear of being ridiculed for being a doctrinal, military minded person by some; I believe the club's senior players and coaching staff should be SETTING the rules, not throwing them up for a democratic vote.

Lockyer; "Who wants to not get on the piss?"
**SILENCE**
Lockyer; "Oh, ok, then forget I said anything."

It should have been;

Lockyer/WB/Henjak; "We are into the finals series, I want a commitment from every player here, we are going to stick together. As of today, we are on the dry for the finals duration. I want you all to look each other in the eye and make a pledge that you have your brother's back, I want you to promnise to do the right thing n\by him, by the next teammate and by the club. We're going to win this baby!!!!"
Young player; "I object, why no grog"
Lockyer/WB/Henjak; "Cuz, I fucking said so.....problem?"

 

[Prince Langer]

What a stupid topic. I have voted and i am very happy with the way the club has handled it.

All of this is pure speculation. NO ONE on here knows what went on with regards to the alleged sexual assualt. Anything you have read in the papers you can take it with a grain of salt, the media is just trying to make a story.
To even imply that the Broncos players were involved in a 'gang bang' is ridiculous. Where you there? Did you see what happened?
If you have answered no to these questions then you have no right to question whether the Broncos management have handled the situation correctly.
If the police lay charges then the Broncos management will act accordingly but until they have been proven to have broken the law (or even club rules) then what action can possibly be taken.

If you expect your club to stand down players based on an allegation then you are a fool. If this was the case, i will tell anyone who will listen that the named 17 Storm players who will take on the Broncos on saturday night barnstormed my house, bashed me and my family then stole my car and crashed it.
Of course this didnt happen but if me saying it resulted in the Storm having to field less quality players then i would swear by it until full time on Saturday and laugh it off.

 

[Steve]

What a stupid topic. I have voted and i am very happy with the way the club has handled it.

All of this is pure speculation. NO ONE on here knows what went on with regards to the alleged sexual assualt. Anything you have read in the papers you can take it with a grain of salt, the media is just trying to make a story.
To even imply that the Broncos players were involved in a 'gang bang' is ridiculous. Where you there? Did you see what happened?
If you have answered no to these questions then you have no right to question whether the Broncos management have handled the situation correctly.
If the police lay charges then the Broncos management will act accordingly but until they have been proven to have broken the law (or even club rules) then what action can possibly be taken.

If you expect your club to stand down players based on an allegation then you are a fool. If this was the case, i will tell anyone who will listen that the named 17 Storm players who will take on the Broncos on saturday night barnstormed my house, bashed me and my family then stole my car and crashed it.
Of course this didnt happen but if me saying it resulted in the Storm having to field less quality players then i would swear by it until full time on Saturday and laugh it off.

They should have been stood down for going on a bender you moron [icon_drun [icon_drun :roll: There's no disputing that.

 

[Prince Langer]

What a stupid topic. I have voted and i am very happy with the way the club has handled it.

All of this is pure speculation. NO ONE on here knows what went on with regards to the alleged sexual assualt. Anything you have read in the papers you can take it with a grain of salt, the media is just trying to make a story.
To even imply that the Broncos players were involved in a 'gang bang' is ridiculous. Where you there? Did you see what happened?
If you have answered no to these questions then you have no right to question whether the Broncos management have handled the situation correctly.
If the police lay charges then the Broncos management will act accordingly but until they have been proven to have broken the law (or even club rules) then what action can possibly be taken.

If you expect your club to stand down players based on an allegation then you are a fool. If this was the case, i will tell anyone who will listen that the named 17 Storm players who will take on the Broncos on saturday night barnstormed my house, bashed me and my family then stole my car and crashed it.
Of course this didnt happen but if me saying it resulted in the Storm having to field less quality players then i would swear by it until full time on Saturday and laugh it off.

They should have been stood down for going on a bender you moron [icon_drun [icon_drun :roll: There's no disputing that.

Why cant they go on a bender? The club does / did not have an alcohol ban on any of the players.
What rules have they broken to justify them being stood down?

 

[Steve]

lol the rule of common sense!!!!

 

[Coxy]

Pretty satisfied. They didn't prejudice the investigation by making any comment about the allegations. Possibly could've said what they said rather than just release statements, but not much to fault there.

I think they should've briefed the players better about what to say and how to act in front of the media. The Uber shout out during a media session was disgraceful, just painting the club even more as a bunch of yobbos.

Reaction to stuff since: not too bad, though I thought Bruno trying to point the finger at other sports to make a point about the unfair coverage was, while correct, a bit illconsidered. For years we've bagged AFL for doing the same everytime they have a scandal "look at Rugby (sic), they are way worse than us".

It's not over yet though. Interesting to see how they handle discipline for the 3 boys in question. Sackings seem highly unlikely, but they will need to do whatever they do publicly to try and get people off the case.

 

[Steve]

Agree how they manage the PR will be critical. They need to be seen doing something so one gets the feeling the punishment will be public.

 

[mick]

I'm happy. They've done all they can, standing by the players while also assisting fully with the police investigations. IMO there's pretty much nothing that can be done about it.

Some people are saying that they should've taken a stronger stance on the alleged incident. Not me, however. I think they would have and should have looked to standing players down if they were charged, but that simply has not happen and standing players down is not warranted. Yet.

The Casablanca thing? LOL. Seriously, if that's a scandal, then I'm a purple headed duckling with a dead giraffe for a father. About as newsworthy as someone not locking their car in their own garage.

 

[Flutterby]

I am often perplexed by the attitude people have that now a team is into the finals they need to go on an alcohol ban.
In all my sporting life, I have often heard repeatedly "you don't change your routine just because it's now finals - stick with what got you there". This has always been told to me as a mantra for every part of your life, not just your training, pre-game build-up whatever. Therefore I would argue that if going out and getting drunk on Saturday night after a Friday night win is what they have done all season - why should they change their routine? OK, I know this is an extreme case, however who is to say that if they didn't go out and get on the drink last Saturday night as they have done all season, it might adversely affect their performance this week because they haven't had that stress release they are used to. Personally I would prefer an attitude of off the drink all season rather than just once the finals start (But I know that's not going to happen).

My personal opinion on the drinking (not the other alleged behavior) is that as long as it doesn't adversely affect their performance come next game time, and as long as it's not a breach of the Club's Code of Conduct, I'm not that bothered. My personal opinion on the other alleged behavior is that I personally would never engage in such things, as long as it's not illegal they are perfectly within their rights as people to do whatever they want. PROVIDED they also accept that they must accept the consequences and repercussions of that behavior.

As far as the club's management of the week is concerned. I'm generally pretty happy, would have preferred them to make a statement sooner, but then again would have hated for them to make any statement without all the information.

 

[Coxy]

Now, as much as I HATE private education, I think it provides another example of where outside behaviour is dealt with harshly.

If you, as a student of some of the exclusive private schools, are recognised as a student behaving in a way that reflects poorly on the school, you can be expelled. It may not be illegal activity, it may be perfectly acceptable for most "kids", but you find yourself expelled with little chance of reinstatement or complaint.

Similarly for teachers. If they were caught in a toilet doing this sort of thing they'd likely get sacked.

Why? The private schools have (or think they have) a proud reputation in the community, and a history of past students that have gone on to great things, and that having been a student there is seen as a positive part of your history.

The Broncos are very very similar. And that's why it wouldn't surprise or upset me if the Broncos sacked these guys. BUT, I'm not saying they should.

 

[Emma]

And that's exactly why if we were outside the school, not in uniform and acting up a bit, we would blame it on another private school nearby just in case anyone complained!

 

[Jeanette]

As it turned out, the incident was "alleged", no conrete evidence of any wrong doing by any player came to light, hence all charges were dropped.

Is this true? I thought that was a mistake by the media?

 

[Coxy]

Exactly right Jeanette. The Australian Army is a bit slow to get intelligence information :P

 

[Hamm.0]

LOLZ. Nice try Coxy, no bait taken. However, please remember to echo your sentiments next ANZAC day mate.

Jeanette- I jumped the gun, however, if there is any case, don't you think we would have heard more? Which leads me to strongly believe the skank has no evidence or further more, the evidence strongly suggests she was a very willing participant.

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The debates on this forum have gone around and around for the last few days.

This is what we can be assured of;

-Half of us feel; since the CLUB didn't have any restrictions on the players and PRESUMING (which I'm willing to throw $100 on) they have not committed a crime, the players are guilty of nothing more than being stupid.....and young.

-Half of us feel that if you play for the Brisbane Broncos, you are a demi-god and as such are expected to act above all other humans in life, do no wrong and certainly, do no wrong in public. You are to set an example, never (even mildly) break the law....even if 90% of your civilian peer group are doing such things. This is your responsibility, because you earn good money (for an Australian sportsperson). Never mind what effect this would or could have on your psychology or life....we only need you for 10 years anyways.

Now, can we all just agree, that those are the two mindsets, neither are going to change each other's minds, so let's look toward tomorrow night and discuss RUGBY LEAGUE! We are, after all, Broncos fans.

 

[Jeanette]

LOLZ. Nice try Coxy, no bait taken. However, please remember to echo your sentiments next ANZAC day mate.

Jeanette- I jumped the gun, however, if there is any case, don't you think we would have heard more? Which leads me to strongly believe the skank has no evidence or further more, the evidence strongly suggests she was a very willing participant.[/b]

If she is a skank, then are the Broncs skanks too?

 

[Kaz]

If she is a skank, then are the Broncs skanks too?

No the Broncos are whores.

 

[Hamm.0]

LOLZ. Nice try Coxy, no bait taken. However, please remember to echo your sentiments next ANZAC day mate.

Jeanette- I jumped the gun, however, if there is any case, don't you think we would have heard more? Which leads me to strongly believe the skank has no evidence or further more, the evidence strongly suggests she was a very willing participant.[/b]

If she is a skank, then are the Broncs skanks too?

ABSOFRICKINLOUTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In fact, there are very very few Broncos I have seen on the piss (including ex players) who haven't acted like total dicks and haven't tried to hit on whatever comes near them.

Which is why I stress to everybody, like I have since the beginning of time, they are just footy players!!!!!