Ben Hunt is overrated

Well, we've been given opportunities to both love him and hate him during any of the 80min this season. And that tension doesn't look like changing anytime soon. Excels at the spontaneous and is absolute balls at the organization.

Maybe he's talented but just not particularly intelligent. And when we're up against it and need some cunning to reestablish some momentum and control he just doesn't have the thought processes or intellectual composure to think through it. I don't know the guy, but maybe others here who have more to do with the team can tell us if he's just not a thinker. And isn't likely to become one (I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but more just how he is wired).

We seem to play 20% of the game at the oppositions line and 80% coming out from our line. It's just the way our defensive structure seems to put us in that position. So who's drilling Hunt during the week to have options and plans (especially 4th and 5th tackles) to put the team in the best position to kick effectively Etc. Even if it takes a few disciplined sets to regain some territory.

When you think of players like Cronk, Lockyer and even JT. You can tell they are generally thoughtful and act with intent. Even when they're backed against a wall. I don't mind losing if we are competent, but get beat by a better team on the night. It's the moments of incompetence and lack of thought that is really pissing me off lately.

If we are in the oppositions half by the third tackle often enough we will put on the points every night of the week. But how often are we kicking on the fifth from half way or our 40m line and all we plate up is a freaking bomb and the opposition is on tackle 1 on there 30m line.

You've got to love Benny and what he can bring to the table. But if he's not peaking and absolutely killing it, he doesn't seem to have a go to base line to just get the job done.
 
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Ash Taylor has those thought Processes going on. He looks to me a Superstar organiser.
 
his performances so far this season have been average at best but even when he was in great form he had the tendency to go MIA at times in games...I've still got confidence that he'll improve and get over whatever it is that is bothering him at the moment. He gives 100%, doesn't always make good decisions... And going on comments made by Bennett Hunt has always had the odd brain snap in him... But I genuinely believe he tries his guts out which is why he'll get there.
 
How long do we need to wait? He will get better, eventually he will be 30 and will people be still saying that? Thats what will happen too. Ben Hunt will be the same then. Mean while Ash Taylor is leading his state and country around with Milford.
 
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I think 27 to 29 is the peak for halves generally. But he might have hit his ceiling already.
 
talanoa said:
so how would you expect hunt to make metres from 9 if our forwards arent making metres and getting quick play the balls? you watch any game of footy and its all the same, 9's who make metres and run the ball do so off the back of a goor run and play the ball.
as for not going right im perplexed, hunt has a great combo with gillett on that right edge and they cause havoc more often than not.
yes we do go left a lot, that relates to our game plan. we generally like to play to the right and then come back with a punch up the middle (parker most time) if he doesnt get an off load he generally gets a good quick play the ball. then again we sweep left out the back to boyd which nearly every week results in a try to oates.. the defense struggles to adapt after parkers push through the middle and thats why our left is so effective.
why do you want your 7 running the ball all the time when you have options outside like gillett/milford/oates/boyd/roberts etc who are genuine line breakers and game winners.
passing right last night was always going to be tricky. new combos in the team and a rookie running new lines on the edge.
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Interesting how S'uA made 45 tackles which is fantastic, but all their tries were from memory down our right hand side - shows the value of Gillett, hey. although great experience for Jaydn.

Hunt is our half and NOT a hooker - and we need to stick with him and the coaching staff need to re-build his confidence which for mine is the 1st of 2 fundamental issues. That 1st issue is general consistent effectiveness for the whole 80 minutes. He just isn't.

The 2nd issue for me is his lack of - again, effective, consistent options: his short kicking game is one (when he decides to use it it works a treat as we see last night), his erratic combination with Milford, and his under-use of Roberts as an option on the right.

Yes, Hunt-Gillett are starting to fire a lot more and the results are obvious which is excellent, but still, for mine, insufficient, and the under-use of Roberts is something I just can't get my head around, be it Hunt or Milford setting him up, or just the way in which we don't use him as, say, we used Hodges. I think Roberts is an ideal replacement for Hodges in more ways than just as a centre.

The game plan you describe above is well and good and it works a lot of the time to great effect, however it is becoming predictable, defensible as we are seeing more and more, and, one way out of that is, I reckon, if our right hand side (especially Roberts as well as Gillett) is used more effectively and more often before we swing left.

And yet again, it is not just about Hunt, it is also about Milford too, and more specifically, why Hunt and Milford don't work together much more than they do. When they do ... and I keep returning to those wonderful inside-out combos - as a unit, they are a game breaker.

Please tell me what I am missing?
 
rnabokov said:
Interesting how S'uA made 45 tackles which is fantastic, but all their tries were from memory down our right hand side - shows the value of Gillett, hey. although great experience for Jaydn.

Hunt is our half and NOT a hooker - and we need to stick with him and the coaching staff need to re-build his confidence which for mine is the 1st of 2 fundamental issues. That 1st issue is general consistent effectiveness for the whole 80 minutes. He just isn't.

The 2nd issue for me is his lack of - again, effective, consistent options: his short kicking game is one (when he decides to use it it works a treat as we see last night), his erratic combination with Milford, and his under-use of Roberts as an option on the right.

Yes, Hunt-Gillett are starting to fire a lot more and the results are obvious which is excellent, but still, for mine, insufficient, and the under-use of Roberts is something I just can't get my head around, be it Hunt or Milford setting him up, or just the way in which we don't use him as, say, we used Hodges. I think Roberts is an ideal replacement for Hodges in more ways than just as a centre.

The game plan you describe above is well and good and it works a lot of the time to great effect, however it is becoming predictable, defensible as we are seeing more and more, and, one way out of that is, I reckon, if our right hand side (especially Roberts as well as Gillett) is used more effectively and more often before we swing left.

And yet again, it is not just about Hunt, it is also about Milford too, and more specifically, why Hunt and Milford don't work together much more than they do. When they do ... and I keep returning to those wonderful inside-out combos - as a unit, they are a game breaker.

Please tell me what I am missing?
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I think last year kevin walter was our attacking coach. Now we see how much important was for broncos. Our season only get back on track if kevin Walter join broncos after origin.
 
Looking at cowboys game. They are playing lot better than broncos.
 
Smokin' Joe said:
The reason Cowboys wanted him was because Green knew his potential having worked with him for a few years at Wynnum. Broncos simply gave him a taste of first grade and Green did the rest.
Charlie Gubb will end up there next year as well, for the same reasons.
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Loved having Granville at Wynnum. He kicked a conversion from the sidelines in his last game there. When he started with the Broncos there were concerns over his fitness and defense. He even stated that 10-15min in NRL was harder than a full ISC game. His attack was always spot on.
 
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Well, we've been given opportunities to both love him and hate him during any of the 80min this season. And that tension doesn't look like changing anytime soon. Excels at the spontaneous and is absolute balls at the organization.

Maybe he's talented but just not particularly intelligent. And when we're up against it and need some cunning to reestablish some momentum and control he just doesn't have the thought processes or intellectual composure to think through it. I don't know the guy, but maybe others here who have more to do with the team can tell us if he's just not a thinker. And isn't likely to become one (I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but more just how he is wired).

We seem to play 20% of the game at the oppositions line and 80% coming out from our line. It's just the way our defensive structure seems to put us in that position. So who's drilling Hunt during the week to have options and plans (especially 4th and 5th tackles) to put the team in the best position to kick effectively Etc. Even if it takes a few disciplined sets to regain some territory.

When you think of players like Cronk, Lockyer and even JT. You can tell they are generally thoughtful and act with intent. Even when they're backed against a wall. I don't mind losing if we are competent, but get beat by a better team on the night. It's the moments of incompetence and lack of thought that is really pissing me off lately.

If we are in the oppositions half by the third tackle often enough we will put on the points every night of the week. But how often are we kicking on the fifth from half way or our 40m line and all we plate up is a freaking bomb and the opposition is on tackle 1 on there 30m line.

You've got to love Benny and what he can bring to the table. But if he's not peaking and absolutely killing it, he doesn't seem to have a go to base line to just get the job done.
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Nailed it.
 
Hunt has some work to do on his kicking no doubt but wow there are some panic merchants around.

We lost the GF by 1 in GP, so far we are 1 all with the Cows and ppl want to change the side. What happens if/when those changes don't work?

I think Hunt he is struggling a bit with Milf being " the guy " but will be right by season end.
 
Locky didn't always know how to control a game.

He had to learn it and it took him some time to really master it.

Hunt still has another 6-7 years in the NRL. A lot can change in that time.

Have a little faith.

Besides, if it wasn't for Hunt, we don't even make the Grand Final.
 
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