PLAYER Billy Walters

What role should Billy Walters play?

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Hope Walters is given a 2 year extension personally. He's a solid player who always gives his all and he'd be our best 14 for at least the next 12 months.
 
theshed said:
Why is it relative to our own team and not the rest of the comp? Are players only measured on their ability within their own team?
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He wasn't better than Danny Levi - who wasn't that great - but Kevvie let him go, knowing he didn't have a similar specialist hooker on the roster. Billy had his eye on Croft/Milford's spot as did Gamble, Kelly, Roberts and Mam. We only had Paix and Turpin to fill 9 and 14. So Billy was only competing with two other players - one roundly maligned, the other fringe - for three starting spots.

What ensued was a rerun of the Croft/Milford/Dearden/Gamble/Kelly/Hunt debacle but at dummy half with only three contenders. But this time the coach relied on injuries to select Billy's partner, and never once paired the other two. Ultimately the universally maligned Turpin won out, and was booted from the club as a reward establishing Paix as lowest in the pecking order.

So while Billy was hired as a potential half cover, he ended the season as the club's top hooker and the club has, as yet, not hired anyone to threaten his status. Meanwhile even his most loyal apologist @Big Pete ranks him as the 11th best hooker in the competition, which is more generous than most of us.
 
McHunt said:
He wasn't better than Danny Levi - who wasn't that great - but Kevvie let him go, knowing he didn't have a similar specialist hooker on the roster. Billy had his eye on Croft/Milford's spot as did Gamble, Kelly, Roberts and Mam. We only had Paix and Turpin to fill 9 and 14. So Billy was only competing with two other players - one roundly maligned, the other fringe - for three starting spots.

What ensued was a rerun of the Croft/Milford/Dearden/Gamble/Kelly/Hunt debacle but at dummy half with only three contenders. But this time the coach relied on injuries to select Billy's partner, and never once paired the other two. Ultimately the universally maligned Turpin won out, and was booted from the club as a reward establishing Paix as lowest in the pecking order.

So while Billy was hired as a potential half cover, he ended the season as the club's top hooker and the club has, as yet, not hired anyone to threaten his status. Meanwhile even his most loyal apologist @Big Pete ranks him as the 11th best hooker in the competition, which is more generous than most of us.
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Did Turpin / Paix pair up against the eels?

I can’t remember why Billy was out. I think he was suspended for 1 match ?
 
Unfortunately all our hooker alternatives were bog average this year. I really hope that Smoothy can build on his promise that quite a few people on here have talked about.

Let's hope that Paix can have a huge preseason and stay injury free so we can get a good guage on what he offers the team. I have seen some positives from him but unfortunately injuries seem to have hampered his progress.

To be honest, I'm not really fussed on Billy even though you can't really knock his effort . I just don't think he has the skills to really get our team around the park. He just doesn't have the smarts between the ears that our team needs.

So at the end of the day I'd be quite happy if Broncs don't
re-sign him.
 
theshed said:
Did Turpin / Paix pair up against the eels?

I can’t remember why Billy was out. I think he was suspended for 1 match ?
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Ah yes, you're right. The highlight of our season. Both played 40 minutes. We won 36:14 against the Grand Finalists. Billy was restored the following week against the wooden spooner Tigers, which we lost 32:18. That's when the rot started.
 
McHunt said:
He wasn't better than Danny Levi - who wasn't that great - but Kevvie let him go, knowing he didn't have a similar specialist hooker on the roster. Billy had his eye on Croft/Milford's spot as did Gamble, Kelly, Roberts and Mam. We only had Paix and Turpin to fill 9 and 14. So Billy was only competing with two other players - one roundly maligned, the other fringe - for three starting spots.

What ensued was a rerun of the Croft/Milford/Dearden/Gamble/Kelly/Hunt debacle but at dummy half with only three contenders. But this time the coach relied on injuries to select Billy's partner, and never once paired the other two. Ultimately the universally maligned Turpin won out, and was booted from the club as a reward establishing Paix as lowest in the pecking order.

So while Billy was hired as a potential half cover, he ended the season as the club's top hooker and the club has, as yet, not hired anyone to threaten his status. Meanwhile even his most loyal apologist @Big Pete ranks him as the 11th best hooker in the competition, which is more generous than most of us.
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Banging my head against a brick wall.

Levi was offered far more money to go play in England. Something we couldn’t offer. Until you can give an example of a base contract we should have signed you’re just wrong
 
McHunt said:
Ah yes, you're right. The highlight of our season. Both played 40 minutes. We won 36:14 against the Grand Finalists. Billy was restored the following week against the wooden spooner Tigers, which we lost 32:18. That's when the rot started.
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Wow.. Really embarrassing argument here with no context. We won despite them, not because of them.
 
Plath signed to train and trial deal
CM says 5/8, Hooker and Lock
I am happy about this option
BW still may stay ( I am happy for him to stay - real competitor), but we are definitely adding some options moving into 23/24

DP
 
Mr Fourex said:
No-one.....is the answer they're struggling to admit.
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I’m not struggling, I just don’t know how many times I need to say Paix is better than Walters. Did he have a better season? Well that’s hard to say because he wasn’t offered the same opportunities as Billy but if you averaged their input over the same amount of minutes than Paix had a better season. I also don’t think Turpin is necessarily worse than Walters either. Not that I’m sad to see him gone.

But the statement was never “did Billy Walters have the best season this year out of the hookers at the club?”, the statement I questioned was “Billy Walters had a good season”. I’m not sure I’d call it good. It was okay.
 
Cult said:
Wow.. Really embarrassing argument here with no context. We won despite them, not because of them.
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We won convincingly with Turpin and Paix.

Not only did we lose when Walters replaced Paix, we got thoroughly thrashed in the next 5 out of 6 games. Our attack looked like a bumbling mess.

**** your context. They're the facts.
 
McHunt said:
We won convincingly with Turpin and Paix.

Not only did we lose when Walters replaced Paix, we lost the next 5 out of 6 games.
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We also won some games with Steve Michaels, Nick Parfitt, Stu Kelly, Aaron Gorrell, Ben Czislowski, Darren Burns, Palmer Wapau, Joel Clinton, Darren Mapp, Craig Frawley, Steve Irwin, Reece Robinson and with the entire 2020 team.
 
McHunt said:
Meanwhile even his most loyal apologist @
Big Pete
Big Pete ranks him as the 11th best hooker in the competition, which is more generous than most of us.
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That's pretty lame spin even by your standards.

Do better.
 
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