PLAYER Billy Walters

What role should Billy Walters play?

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This conspiracy is just fucking lazy. There's nothing creative or sordid in it besides "Kev has somehow bamboozled all of the Broncos' recruitment and performance staff in securing his son a job".

Let's dig until we at least hit water. Let's start with the Walkers Ikin bad blood that all of a sudden was nothing yet still was? Ikin is a smart guy. If he felt slighted, I'd imagine he could put some things in motion. At a minimum he doesn't feel Walters is fit for the job, that's fine, but that's no longer his decision. What can he do in the meantime? Cuddle up to Walters' lovable "silly Uncle" demeanour. "Hey Kev, that kid of yours, he can play a few positions, right? Give him a call, see if he wants a job". Oh wow, says Kev, this Ikin guy is a ripper.

Kid plays... like a depth spine player from Q Cup. But in the absence of anyone better, he's the best we have, right? Here's the #9 jersey. "Your kid's doing great for a depth spine player from QCup, Kev, keep rewarding his... effort".

Meanwhile The Internet is frothing at the Walters clan dragging the Broncos down. What was a joke has become reality, and in its second season is turning in to a nightmare. "Oh well" says Ikin, "At least Billy is the least shit out of a 3-way Shit Sandwich". The season drags on. The Broncos' exciting young players are anchored by dogshit service and can't get anywhere. The outrage grows. The season is coming to and end and once again the Broncos seem as impotent as ever.

The call finally comes. Not only is Walters out, unceremoniously booted, but so is his Son. The whole family is shamefully blacklisted as claims of nepotism become public. Even the Broncos greats of old can't argue. Kev put him and his family above the Broncos, that's unforgivable.
 
My favourite conspiracy in all of this is that the alternate options are being coached in a manner to make Billy Walters look better, yeah.. that's exactly what's happening. Not like they're not trying to forge a career for themselves or anything.
 
BroncosFever said:
All you want is someone who can identify a quick play the ball and then take advantage by running at them and then really establishing some momentum through the ruck, that's been the blueprint to winning the middle since the inception of Rugby League. You spoke about creating space, you create space by winning the middle.

Decent service is a non-negotiable and I don't think you can say Billy doesn't give good service. They all do but it's what else can these 3 bring to the team, it's in the opinion of Kevvie (and a few others like Greg Alexander) that Billy is the best fit we have for that position.

I do find it slightly amusing that you're prepared to settle for good service though, given all of the crap I and many others have had to endure about why Billy is barely a first grader, he definitely gives that and a bit more. Seems like you've shifted the posts a bit there after Paix's below par performance.
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Your post falls a part because it’s built on the assumption that Billy gives good service. That’s very debatable. It also falls down because Smoothy does run from hooker, he just generally chooses his moments better.
 
BroncosFever said:
My favourite conspiracy in all of this is that the alternate options are being coached in a manner to make Billy Walters look better, yeah.. that's exactly what's happening. Not like they're not trying to forge a career for themselves or anything.
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You'll be able to put your theory to the test when Jake Turpin comes off the bench for the Roosters on Friday night.
 
I still don't get the hate toward BW and KW.

We don't have a clear dedicated proper NRL hooker on the books. BW probably has the most experience considering Paix has had injuries and plateaued a bit. Smoothy wasn't a stand out above both in the last trial and like others have said Mozer is totally green and untested against NRL quality.

There are not many other options currently.
 
McHunt said:
You'll be able to put your theory to the test when Jake Turpin comes off the bench for the Roosters on Friday night.
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Turpin was shit before Walters came to the club
 
007 said:
I still don't get the hate toward BW and KW.

We don't have a clear dedicated proper NRL hooker on the books. BW probably has the most experience considering Paix has had injuries and plateaued a bit. Smoothy wasn't a stand out above both in the last trial and like others have said Mozer is totally green and untested against NRL quality.

There are not many other options currently.
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Your post will probably start another circular discussion which is fine because this is the thread for it:

So the main points from the other side are:
- We should have found and signed a better option that Billy - should have signed B.Smith/Verrills/Mahoney/Robson or someone else who was off contract
- We didn’t sign them because this would have meant there was no spot for Billy and salary cap is not an issue here because money should have been kept aside for an elite 9
- Paix is kept around because he isn’t an upgrade on Billy, so Billy is safe
- Billy is the glaring weak spot in the starting 13 and 17 most weeks
- Billy is Kevvie’s son so that’s the only reason he is in the team
- Billy isn’t a 9, isn’t NRL standard, isn’t good enough
- Kevvie is a rubbish coach
- Kevvie should never have got the job
- Kevvie can’t speak to the media well, at times it is embarrassing
- All other reasons basically revolve around these above
 
Sproj said:
Your post will probably start another circular discussion which is fine because this is the thread for it:

So the main points from the other side are:
- We should have found and signed a better option that Billy - should have signed B.Smith/Verrills/Mahoney/Robson or someone else who was off contract
- We didn’t sign them because this would have meant there was no spot for Billy and salary cap is not an issue here because money should have been kept aside for an elite 9
- Paix is kept around because he isn’t an upgrade on Billy, so Billy is safe
- Billy is the glaring weak spot in the starting 13 and 17 most weeks
- Billy is Kevvie’s son so that’s the only reason he is in the team
- Billy isn’t a 9, isn’t NRL standard, isn’t good enough
- Kevvie is a rubbish coach
- Kevvie should never have got the job
- Kevvie can’t speak to the media well, at times it is embarrassing
- All other reasons basically revolve around these above
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This should be pinned to the top of every page to save the hamster wheel from wearing out.
 
theshed said:
They are also valid points but the fullback won’t be ready to link up with the hooker if it’s the 4th tackle and the halfback is calling a play
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Always the 4th ?
I call BS on that . Got stats to back it up ? Or it just fits your narrative ?
 
McHunt said:
You'll be able to put your theory to the test when Jake Turpin comes off the bench for the Roosters on Friday night.
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Jake played #7 last week .
Interestingly Tanah Boyd played 7 for the Tits .

Are other clubs taking the halves the Broncos tried to turn into #9 s and turning them back into into #7 S ????
 
Big Del said:
Jake played #7 last week .
Interestingly Tanah Boyd played 7 for the Tits .

Are other clubs taking the halves the Broncos tried to turn into #9 s and turning them back into into #7 S ????
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Titans attempted to turn Tanah into a 9.. I think he had already moved to Titans by the time he would've been playing reserve grade, so I don't recall him ever playing a senior game for the broncos or our affiliates
 
BroncsFan said:
Titans attempted to turn Tanah into a 9.. I think he had already moved to Titans by the time he would've been playing reserve grade, so I don't recall him ever playing a senior game for the broncos or our affiliates
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Made the Broncos NRL squad....never played a NRL game for us.
 
BroncsFan said:
Titans attempted to turn Tanah into a 9.. I think he had already moved to Titans by the time he would've been playing reserve grade, so I don't recall him ever playing a senior game for the broncos or our affiliates
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Played two games for Souths in 2018. Broncos/Souths got permission for him to make his ISC debut before he was 18.
 
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